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No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54731 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Chump Change

Ardsley, NY

#37938 Feb 18, 2013
lMl2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
Haraam zade mein ek bhi gali nahin di aur bade pyar se tere ko cold blooded jawab diye. Dekh bhaadkhau dekh… jab tune mujhe bhosdike keh ke gaali di toe meine bhi socha teri gai bakriyaan chod hi dete hein kyon ki kisi ki di hui dhamki se tu aaj tak darra hua hei, anaath balak. Apni randi ma aur gumshuda baap ke hote hue najayaz insaan ki tarah tu pal raha hei.
Baune lund ki paidaish, Bhikhmanga desh tera, lund ke naam pe kishmish, IQ ke naam pe single digit tumhara, discarded brand Jaguar ko kharido tum, Airbus aur Boeing ke siwa koi chara nahin, western world se aaj bhi aids lo tum fir bhi akkadd dekh, ling fakir ki? Ma ke laund China mein baith ke chinese lullyiyyan choose tu aur hamse poochta hei sawaad kaisa hei?
Teri maan ki fudde mein hook laga ke teri bakri ke munh mein uska mamma daal ke crane se uthwa ke numaish lagwa doonga, bosedike! Jab bhi apne ma ke darshan karne aayega line laga ke paise deke uski durdasha hote hue dekhega ! Fir usi randi ke baal se pakkad usko kutton se na chudwa diya bhumbneshwar ke chaowk pe to kutta ho tera najayaz baap !
Did your western education, mannerisms and teach you to think read and write filth in Hindi or was this due to to your ghatia filthy family upbringing?
ROFL!!
Chump Change

Ardsley, NY

#37939 Feb 18, 2013
*** mannerisms teach you
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#37940 Feb 18, 2013
Dragnet52 wrote:
<quoted text>For how long will you carry this charade of so called experts, real experts and stuff like that? A person like Deedat does not indulge in unnecessarily slandering Islam. He is only raising valid doubts, doubts which have their origin in Islamic scriptures themselves. Isn't it then your beholden duty as a self described servant of Islam to take the bull by its horns and clear those doubts, rather than sulking at the possibility of having to answer hard questions.
You are doing more harm than good to Islam by not answering these provocative questions. Do you know why people ask you such pointed questions about Islam? It is because of the much hyped claims of muslims themselves that Islam is the very epitome of perfection unmatched by anything else. When you make such claims, it's only natural that you have to brace yourself to answer the skeptics who will counter such claims. If you don't do so then you will end up harming the reputation of Islam more than if you had not made such claims.
So MUQ, bite the bullet and try to sincerely answer all those questions of Deedat. Be careful of a hoodlum here who will take this opportunity to slander me by saying that I and Deedat are same.
I am very patient with people and always ready to answer their queries.

But what puzzles me is that "these people who do not know even a single letter of Arabic" after reading a few books written by some Anti Islamic people, try to pose as if they have become an Authority on Quran and Islam.

Did you not see the "boast" of Mr. Deedat that he knows "all" about Quran!!

And what about their own Books? Have they tried the same tests of authenticity and preservation on their own books.

It is Quran which can pass these tests and no other book on the face of earth, because every thing is known about Quran!!

What these "experts" do is take information from Islamic Scholars and then try to re-arrange and edit some portions and then give their own conclusions.

It is a "practice" of Islamic Scholars to write all the sayings they get from any source, correct or incorrect and then in the End give their opinion as to which is authentic and which is to be rejected as "weak and unreliable".

These experts "omit" the conclusion and take weakest and most unreliable reports and say this is from Bukhari, This is from Ibn Ishaq and this is from Tabri.

A person who does not know about Islam and the way Islamic books are written is mislead because "authentic Quotation" from "Reliable Islamic books" are quoted.

I am not averse to people criticizing Islam and making their objections, but at least they should be honest and when asked should be ready to accept their mistakes.

Here we see people justifying their mistakes by saying that "they know all".

Islam is the only religion, where night is like day light of other religions.

Biographies of more than 100, 000 people are recorded along with their date of death, which city they visited, from whom they learned and who were their pupils.

Why was it all needed? Why could not they follow the examples of Jews, Christians, Hindus and Buddhists and let every thing work on "good will and assumptions"?

It was because Quran was the Last Book and Prophet Mohammad was to be the Last prophet, so every thing must be clear to all people that would come after them.

Since these people do not find such details about their own books they try to create doubt about Islamic books also to "prove" that Islam is just like their own religion.

Some one tries to "prove" that Muslim worship Kaaba, some one says that they worship Black Stone in Kaaba, some one says that they worship Prophet Mohammad,

Some one says that Allah is another name for Mohammad, some one says that Allah is name of moon god.

Every "expert" has his own theory.

The ONLY thing these "experts" reject is what Quran says about itself, its author and its status!!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#37941 Feb 19, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
MUQ Auntie....E Chaddi ki purani bimari haey, gaand mein dalo chilli aur wou baan jata haey baukhlaya hua kattu billi !
ees halat mein wou kaphi dEr 'slumdog ' ki tarah apni khud ki autobiography bakega- Like randi kaa bachcha, goo sE nahana, kachrdey kE dabbey mein lunch dinner .....waigrah waigerah......phir ooskey gaand mein lathi pardegi and he will vanish for few days in some cyber ICU !
Ooosey apney ghagrey mein lE kar apni choot ganda karney ka koi matlab nahi haey......! Han ooskey oopar mut sakti houu shyad pagalpan thorda kamey.. <quoted text>
Bhikhmange, mujhse katti kya? Ma ke lund .. kuch bol wee... LOL ! Saanp soongh gaya ya soowar ne teri cho0ttadd ko kaata hei?

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#37942 Feb 19, 2013
Kyon wee ...Kachredey ka dabba....Baap ke mammey ...Ms. MUQ nE garmi choos li ?

Jara parey haat .....kachrdey ki boo aa rahi haey....!

ha....ha....kyon bE Kattu...abhi bhi Oriya logo sE gaand maratey hou ?
lMl2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
Bhikhmange, mujhse katti kya? Ma ke lund .. kuch bol wee... LOL ! Saanp soongh gaya ya soowar ne teri cho0ttadd ko kaata hei?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#37943 Feb 19, 2013
Chump Change wrote:
<quoted text>
Did your western education, mannerisms and teach you to think read and write filth in Hindi or was this due to to your ghatia filthy family upbringing?
ROFL!!
Didn't someone from that corner say "you have created a Frankenstein" ! HA HA ! bhangi chump change, whether it is Krav Maga or handling side arms - hand guns or extreme sports or we are having a political debate or economic meltdown - my education is good enough to take you all on any topic (except Islam as I have not studied it or read Quran ever in my life).

I have to go now - see you tomorrow, badzaat kanjar !

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#37944 Feb 19, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
Kyon wee ...Kachredey ka dabba....Baap ke mammey ...Ms. MUQ nE garmi choos li ?
Jara parey haat .....kachrdey ki boo aa rahi haey....!
ha....ha....kyon bE Kattu...abhi bhi Oriya logo sE gaand maratey hou ?
<quoted text>
No insult meant here but you do know that I have an extremely low opinion for you all as I know the origins of yours. Tell me - are you a Gotipua from the state of Orissa ? After Oddissi dance was attached to only prostitutes, boys dressed as girls came forward to lagao thumka and Gotipuas toured villages after villages performing BJs on village male folks to keep their women safe. It started for ek anna a chuppa and now I guess the going rate of your cousins is 30 rupees or so? Veerya pee pee ke cola aur moothrass ke taste mein koi antar nahin hoga tere liye?

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#37945 Feb 19, 2013
@ Kaji bhikhmanga,

Odissi dance was held in high esteem before the 17th century as prostitution was a way of life. Nobility were known for their patronage of the arts, and it was not unheard of for royalty of both sexes to be accomplished dancers. However, after the 17th century, the social position of dancers began to decline. Dancing girls were considered to be little more than prostitutes, and the "Anti-Nautch" movement of the British brought Odissi dance to near extinction.

http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_musi...

Tell me Maan ke Lund, tawayaffon ki vasna ki uppaj, this is your naach gana thumka culture - no wonder sara din Mahari, Nartaki and Gotipua style mein paon mein ghungroo baandh ke naachta rehta hei !

Yehi hei tera culture? Bhaddwe? Bass... yehi randigiri, bachchabaazi, ma chudai, behan aguwai pe ghamand hei tujhe? Saale kaluwwe, naak mein bail ki tarah khoonta baandh ke hall mein bail style jot doonga tere jaise bhaand ko !

Ab ja raha hoon ... jo likhna hei likh diyo ..kal fir se bajaoonga teri, uthaigir!

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#37946 Feb 19, 2013
Tujhey kisi kE barey mein GHAANTTAA pata haey.....Mein na bola tha Ms. MUQ kou ki Chaddi chutiya aab apni autobiography bard-bardayega....aut tum ChutiA chaddi hazir !
lMl2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
No insult meant here but you do know that I have an extremely low opinion for you all as I know the origins of yours. Tell me - are you a Gotipua from the state of Orissa ? After Oddissi dance was attached to only prostitutes, boys dressed as girls came forward to lagao thumka and Gotipuas toured villages after villages performing BJs on village male folks to keep their women safe. It started for ek anna a chuppa and now I guess the going rate of your cousins is 30 rupees or so? Veerya pee pee ke cola aur moothrass ke taste mein koi antar nahin hoga tere liye?
Rohit

Mumbai, India

#37948 Feb 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact "No book written in one language can be properly translated in another language"
You can convey the thoughts but not the beauty, the lyrics and the sweetness of original composition in the translation. It is almost impossible.
The same is with Quran, we can translate it into another language to know some of its meanings, but no translation can take the place of Original Quran.
Translations are not to be recited in daily prayers, they are learning aids and not the scriptures.
Translations are done by humans, they go out of touch and they get old fashioned , But Quran stays pure and fine, untouched , revelation from All Mighty Allah.
Can u tell me why Allah Chose Arabian as his/her first language ?

May be u will say ... how can i know ?

Allah Knows best !!

But Muslims can not avoid this very valid question of Kafirs like me.

Plz do not counter question me, why Sanskrit was the language of vedas.. because Hindus never claim it is the ONLY word of God.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#37949 Feb 19, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
incorrect
Devout Khalsa sleep for a maximum of 3 hours a day.
they follow "alap ahaar sulabh see nindra…"
at badrinath and kedarnath , i have met more than 100 sadhus who sleep a max of 2 hours a day.
these blessed souls chant gods name 18 hours a day
THEY are the closest to God
sleep, drowziness,slumber does not seize them
Food,sleep sex eating ...can be life sustaining or INDULGENCES which makes a soul dissolute.

One has to exert a maximum control...that iron self discipline helps in all walks of life.

I have seen very successful people practice it..and they consider it to be a spiritual pursuit.

The Japanese concept of KAIZEN or constant improvement either personally or in every day work life is closest to this genre of thought.

Islam has these "laws' which according to a desert hoodlum was "words of god'...bullshit..not a single tiny weeny iota or trace of self discipline is these "laws"..these "laws" are hijacked by street thugs,caliphs,imams maulanas and often ends with a free for all political battle in very crude bloody battle for political power..the Taliban Al Qaeda and sundry Lal Masjid Imam are all doing EXACTLY the same thing that went on in Arabian desert 1400 years back...

The practitioners of self discipline like sadhus ( the genuine ones!) and their followers are CONTRIBUTORS to welfare and well being their own and by setting an example to the rest of us.

Islam is unbridled hoollganism and nothing more!
harminder

Mumbai, India

#37951 Feb 19, 2013
lMl2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit ! In India guns of 9mm,.303 British,.45 ACP are prohibited along with several other calibers and automatic weapons are not allowed for civilians. If you really had one, you wouldn't be boasting like this. And something very important - Caliber numbers are usually followed by words or letters to create the complete name of the cartridge. These letters often represent a brand name or an abbreviation for the name of the company that first introduced the round. These letters are as important as the caliber number. It isn't enough to know the initial numbers so when you say .44 - you have no fckin idea as to what you are talking about. You’ll need to know the letters which follow them as well. If you had one, you would have given the complete ID - like .44 American,.44 Russian,.44-40 Winchester or.45 Colt.
What happened to your sadde chaar fut wallee talwar? Gaand fatt gai Krav maga ka naam sun ke - seedha dhyaan gun pe gya? HAHAHAHAHAHA ! Gandu Hindu, Kaayar ke aulaad.
inbred muslim

you are so illiterate and brain dead that u dont even know the name of ur muslim father

you only google and quote the information. You have no first hand information because u were in a madressa for 20 years howling away the koran

u dont even know to uncord the nadaa of ur salwar before defecating

and after defecating u go straight to the mosque

In india there are pvt citizens carrying licensed bores under exceptional categories

google and find out
Dak-Original

Milton Keynes, UK

#37952 Feb 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You said you do not know Arabic, and all these books are in Arabic?
So you have not read these books, but their English Translations.
And who did the translations? What tricks they played in those Translations?
When you want to lay any allegation, you should have proofs. You are wrong because your "CONCLUSIONS" are exactly opposite to what these Islamic scholars reached.
None of them "Turned their backs on Islam" as you did by reading their books!!
So the "kink" is in you and not them and the main source is that your foundation was not strong.
That is why I want to know about your childhood and how your parents brought you up?
Did they also turned their back on Islam and became Non Muslims or you "did that honor and did your parents and family this honor"?
Open up and tell me more about your early life, may be we can straighten up this kink. If Allah Wills of course.
T%his thing about all translators of Islamic writers have had agenda is a slur bit too hard to digest. Yes,things can be misinterpreted by a translator and if that is pointed out the publishers are to happy to review in free countries. Yes, nuance of poetry can be lost , especially only the best ones would have been hired to write religious matters. But then to allege that translations are wrong without attempting to spend time to corret it is very "Muckesque" mischief. So, MUQ thinks that Mahmood was not brainwashed enough to keep him the fold?!!
I believe the real GOD will not forgive MUQ!
Dak-Original

Milton Keynes, UK

#37953 Feb 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum,(THE SEALED NECTAR, Biography of the Noble Prophet [pbuh], by SAFI UL RAHMAN al-Mubarakpuri
Jamia Salafia - India Translated by Issam Diab Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers and Distributors, Part- 69
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_t...
The Battle of Uhud (Contd.)
Burial of the Martyrs
The Messenger of Allah [pbuh] supervised the martyrs’ burial and said: "I bear witness that anyone who is wounded in the way of Allah, Allah will resurrect him with his wound bleeding a liquid which is blood-like in colour but musk-like in scent." [Ibn Hisham 2/98]
Some of the Companions carried their men killed in the war to Madinah, but the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] ordered that they should be sent back in order to be buried where they were killed. He ordered that they should not be washed but buried as they were after stripping them off their armours and leather clothes. He used to bury every two or three martyrs together in one grave and even join two men in one garment while saying:
"Who is the more learned of the Quran?" and he would commit him to earth first. He would say: "I bear witness to those on the Day of Resurrection." He buried both ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr bin Haram and ‘Amr bin Al-Jamuh in one grave due to the affection they used to possess to each other.[Za'd Al-Ma'ad 2/98; Sahih Al-Bukhari 2/584]
When the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] saw how his uncle and foster brother, Hamzah, was mutilated, he was extremely grieved. When his aunt Safiyah came to see her brother Hamzah, the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] ordered her son Az-Zubair to dismiss her in order not to see what happened to her brother.
She refused and said, "But why should I go away. I have been informed that they have mutilated him. But so long as it is in the way of Allah, whatever happens to him satisfies us. I say: Allah is Sufficient and I will be patient if Allah wills." She approached, looked at him and supplicated Allah for him and said: "To Allah we all belong and to Him we will verily return." and she implored Allah to forgive him. Then the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] ordered that he should be buried with ‘Abdullah bin Jahsh — who was his nephew as well as his foster brother…
After committing all the martyrs to earth, and after offering praise and supplication to Allah, the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] went back to Madinah….
In the evening of that day — i.e. Saturday, the seventh of Shawwal, 3rd year A.H.— the Messenger arrived in Madinah. As soon as he reached his house, he handed his sword to his daughter Fatimah and said: "O daughter, wash the blood off this sword. By Allah it has been helpful to me today."
‘Ali bin Abi Talib handed her his sword and said: "And wash the blood of this sword too. By Allah, it has been helpful to me today." So the Messenger of Allah [pbuh] said: "Sahl bin Haneef and Abu Dujana have been as courageous as you are in the fight." [Ibn Hisham 2/100]
Most of the narrations confirmed that seventy Muslims were killed and most of them, sixty-five, Helpers; forty-one of whom were from Khazraj and twenty-four from Aws. This, besides one Jew and four Emigrants.
As for the polytheists, twenty-two of them were killed, but some versions speak of thirty-seven; after all, Allah knows best.[Ibn Hisham 2/122-129; Fath Al-Bari 7/351]
(Abridged
Contd.)
Here he goes again! MUQ knows but still carries on! LOL!

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37954 Feb 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact "No book written in one language can be properly translated in another language"
You can convey the thoughts but not the beauty, the lyrics and the sweetness of original composition in the translation. It is almost impossible.
The same is with Quran, we can translate it into another language to know some of its meanings, but no translation can take the place of Original Quran.
Translations are not to be recited in daily prayers, they are learning aids and not the scriptures.
Translations are done by humans, they go out of touch and they get old fashioned , But Quran stays pure and fine, untouched , revelation from All Mighty Allah.
The Quran was designed not to have punctuation as to accommodate Arabs who only knew verse through poems.
Dak-Original

Milton Keynes, UK

#37955 Feb 19, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
How could I make such a big claim?
I have always stated that I am but a student and novice. But we as a Muslims are told to share what knowledge we have about Islam, even if it is a little bit.
What I write is not my own findings, but which Scholars before me have written. I translate them into English and present on these threads.
Somehow I find that even a "novice" like me knows "more" than the people who pose as "experts" and make claim that they know "all"!!
There is a saying in Hindi "ANDHON MEIN KANA RAJA"!!
Can we trust this jihadist to the boot MUQ to translate anything from Arabic into English? OH! MUQ!

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#37956 Feb 19, 2013
Dear Friends & foes,
One of the statement, based on his vast observation and intellect, of Winston Churchill is noteworthy in present context. Doing research on Muslim societies he described it at the end of the 19th century: the most retrograde force in the world ! Mathematically it means degeneration of a society is directly proportional to the percentage of Muslims in that society.

Today we find MUQ likes claiming again that God’s language is Arabic, and dragging Arabs and Muslims to one step closer to complete degeneration.
Do one need to be an expert to find out how fraud he is ? Nope…….

In Judaism Hebrew is the God’s language. If Muslims call themselves part of Judaism, if Muslims call Abraham and Moses as their prophet also how can they claim only Arabic is God’s language ? Does it mean that Moses was a fraud who showed ten commandments carved by God on stone slabs (in Hebrew (or Aramaic?)) in His own language ? But carved on stone a language seems more authentic then 2nd hand whispering in ear, isn’t it? Zakir and MUQ may say Gibril and God spoke different languages, well then whole revelation becomes lost in translation !

Then in Vedic religion, "speech" Vac, i.e. the language of liturgy, now known as Vedic Sanskrit, was considered the language of the gods. But Hindoos have evolved and don’t fight over it, knowing the facts.

What are the facts?

The formal study of language began in India with Panini, the 50th century BC grammarian who formulated 3,959 rules of Sanskrit morphology. Panini’s systematic classification of the sounds of Sanskrit into consonants and vowels, and word classes, such as nouns and verbs, was the first known instance of its kind. The language evolved too and today google ‘most scientific language’ and you will know the difference (Chaddi- ur phokat source also say the same) it made in science.

But I don’t say it’s God’s language………..

Then in the Middle East Sibawayh made a detailed description of Arabic in 9th century AD in his monumental work, Al-kitab fi al-nahw (The Book on Grammar), as first attempt to establish Arabic as a language. I mean, during Mohammad’s time Arabic was not a language only…….they probably yelled at each other in mixture of Aramaic and animal sound………..later part like Tarzan!

Then MUQ’s belief that God wrote Quran in his backyard yesterday after Arab league established what is ‘Classical Arabic’ few decades back is just a glimpse of retrogression and rot and fraud in Islamic society .

Yes friends and foes Islam is the most retrograde force in the world ! Mathematically it means degeneration of a society is directly proportional to the percentage of Muslims in that society. MUQ and Chaddi are just sample s and proof of that rot.

For this MUQ (or Chaddi) need not have to ask for proof, and I need not be an expert – He just has to stand before mirror and ask for proof to his own impression in support of his doctrine !!!!

To know that his doctrine is fraudulent he need not be an expert either !
Luv
HK
Dabang

Kolkata, India

#37958 Feb 19, 2013
Why you people insult IMI ? He belongs to a different class. Though he lives in slum of dirty muslim colony in Delhi yet he dreams about the White House.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#37959 Feb 19, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
Dear Friends & foes,
One of the statement, based on his vast observation and intellect, of Winston Churchill is noteworthy in present context. Doing research on Muslim societies he described it at the end of the 19th century: the most retrograde force in the world ! Mathematically it means degeneration of a society is directly proportional to the percentage of Muslims in that society.
Today we find MUQ likes claiming again that God’s language is Arabic, and dragging Arabs and Muslims to one step closer to complete degeneration.
Do one need to be an expert to find out how fraud he is ? Nope…….
In Judaism Hebrew is the God’s language. If Muslims call themselves part of Judaism, if Muslims call Abraham and Moses as their prophet also how can they claim only Arabic is God’s language ? Does it mean that Moses was a fraud who showed ten commandments carved by God on stone slabs (in Hebrew (or Aramaic?)) in His own language ? But carved on stone a language seems more authentic then 2nd hand whispering in ear, isn’t it? Zakir and MUQ may say Gibril and God spoke different languages, well then whole revelation becomes lost in translation !
Then in Vedic religion, "speech" Vac, i.e. the language of liturgy, now known as Vedic Sanskrit, was considered the language of the gods. But Hindoos have evolved and don’t fight over it, knowing the facts.
What are the facts?
The formal study of language began in India with Panini, the 50th century BC grammarian who formulated 3,959 rules of Sanskrit morphology. Panini’s systematic classification of the sounds of Sanskrit into consonants and vowels, and word classes, such as nouns and verbs, was the first known instance of its kind. The language evolved too and today google ‘most scientific language’ and you will know the difference (Chaddi- ur phokat source also say the same) it made in science.
But I don’t say it’s God’s language………..
Then in the Middle East Sibawayh made a detailed description of Arabic in 9th century AD in his monumental work, Al-kitab fi al-nahw (The Book on Grammar), as first attempt to establish Arabic as a language. I mean, during Mohammad’s time Arabic was not a language only…….they probably yelled at each other in mixture of Aramaic and animal sound………..later part like Tarzan!
Then MUQ’s belief that God wrote Quran in his backyard yesterday after Arab league established what is ‘Classical Arabic’ few decades back is just a glimpse of retrogression and rot and fraud in Islamic society .
Yes friends and foes Islam is the most retrograde force in the world ! Mathematically it means degeneration of a society is directly proportional to the percentage of Muslims in that society. MUQ and Chaddi are just sample s and proof of that rot.
For this MUQ (or Chaddi) need not have to ask for proof, and I need not be an expert – He just has to stand before mirror and ask for proof to his own impression in support of his doctrine !!!!
To know that his doctrine is fraudulent he need not be an expert either !
Luv
HK
Enriching
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#37962 Feb 19, 2013
Qadir mengal wrote:
who="Jinn Martini"]
If someone makes the wrong decision, why would Allah lead him down that road to assure he will continually make the wrong decision rather than guide and encourage the person to get on the right road? If the person makes a wrong decision, why does Allah need to make sure they continue with the wrong decision?

Mengal
Dear Jinn Martini,
Who ever makes wrong decision, Allah shows him right path through His messengers ,Books, And through His other good servants until he becomes aware of it, After awareness and knowledge of the same if any one rejects it and chose different way ,make efforts for that way, than Allah leaves him to go on that way because if Allah on his own power stop him or forced him to go on certain way than question of test loose its importance so as once going in Hell or Paradise on his own decsion and effort becomes un meaning full. As Quran says
THIS WORLD IS TEST AND TOIL.
Quran-LXVII—
2-He Who created Death
And Life, that He
May try which of you
Is best in deed:
And He is the Exalted
In Might, Oft-Forgiving.-
According to Quran man has been sent to earth for toil and test. The rules of creator for every body are equal and same. Quran further clears this position that the men only get that, for which he make effort and hard work.

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