No Muslim can think of profaning holy...

No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54751 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Since: Sep 11

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#37788 Feb 17, 2013
Chump Change wrote:
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Dragnet there is a poster here IMI who keeps insisting every poster here is Chump Change. Not long he hought everyone opposing him was Dragnet52. Now he has changed his tune and keeps insinuating everyone is Chump Change. Is there any way to drill sense into this moron IMI? He cannot get out of his Muslim mindset.
There is no way you can drill any sense into him. To be able to drill some sense into a person, the first and foremost requirement is that, that person should be willing to accept that he is lacking in the sense department. But here the protagonist of our story is a stubborn character who not only is not ready to accept that he lacks in the sense department, but also considers himself to be a genius. The only way to deal with such know-all is to leave him to his own devices. The Second Law of Thermodynamics will deal with such character.

Since: Feb 13

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#37789 Feb 17, 2013
harminder wrote:
the guy above who keeps writing "quotes from qoran"…"ayaats" ….misses out on the main issue of religion
…thats the removal/abandonment or attachment and ego
if we go by MUCKS writings…..islam does not say " how to remove , reduce or do away with go and attachment"
Once a muslim preacher asked me " Do you Believe in the One God"
My answer was "no"…It Stumped Him
Because his next line would have been "Then U MUST accept Islam"
after i watched him flummoxed, i said " I want to be without ego and attachment".That is the main religion.Once a person is without Ego and Attachment, He /She Finds God.
Nowhere does islam preach that. Islamic preachings have a massive amount of arrogance and ego. That defeats the very purpose of religion.
A true faith NEVER ever offers PROOFS. If its PROOFS then it is a Human Court with its short comings, come what may.
If its cross references, witnesses, its not religion its NOT faith. Its a police system with all its flaws and biases.
If its about "glory " and "tadaat" its a political system , NOT religion.
If its proponents claim " we are the fastest growing RELIGION"…then its a cult or a political movement. It CANT be a true religion.
show me in the koran , ayaats, hadits, where there is a talk about "how to lose ones ego, attachment, lust"…"how to experience God as one lives"…." how to feel the vibration of Gods name "….Its not there in the qoran , or ayaats, or Hadits
Is there any muslim living or dead who has had an out of body experience?
Is there any muslim living or dead who has had some kind of healing powers?
Is there any muslim living or dead who HAS seen Gods Light?
There are myriad instances of these in Christianity, In Buddhism, In Hinduism , In Sikhism, In Jews, In Taoism, In Shamanism, In Jains…BUT not in islam.
muslims are living in a delusion in a false world where they are being misguided en masse .This misguidance is based on two things. 1)The 72 virgin girls and 28 virgin boys.2)after death a muslim will live in Paradise .
the qoran is the only book which PRAISES a human prophet. Nowhere else is there so much narcissism . It canonizes a person who claims to be a prophet . For proof muslims say " read Koran".if u raise questions muslim will say " how dare u question the koran". This is nothing but force and human pressure of a cult.
"prophet" mohammed claimed that koran is from god and if u want proof of my prophethood , read it. What a SILLY circular reference.
Self control-over senses,action,thought speech eating habits including sex....reduction of chaos/INTEGRATION in many a way to function as a good human being is taught in Hindu/Buddhist/Jain/Sikh faiths..not so in Islam.

Islam is made-while-on-the-move religion..one fancy tale after another and "laws" like Judaism and set in Bedouin barbarity of 1400 years back!

Since: Sep 11

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#37790 Feb 17, 2013
harminder wrote:
the guy above who keeps writing "quotes from qoran"…"ayaats" ….misses out on the main issue of religion
…thats the removal/abandonment or attachment and ego
if we go by MUCKS writings…..islam does not say " how to remove , reduce or do away with go and attachment"
Once a muslim preacher asked me " Do you Believe in the One God"
My answer was "no"…It Stumped Him
Because his next line would have been "Then U MUST accept Islam"
after i watched him flummoxed, i said " I want to be without ego and attachment".That is the main religion.Once a person is without Ego and Attachment, He /She Finds God.
Nowhere does islam preach that. Islamic preachings have a massive amount of arrogance and ego. That defeats the very purpose of religion.
A true faith NEVER ever offers PROOFS. If its PROOFS then it is a Human Court with its short comings, come what may.
If its cross references, witnesses, its not religion its NOT faith. Its a police system with all its flaws and biases.
If its about "glory " and "tadaat" its a political system , NOT religion.
If its proponents claim " we are the fastest growing RELIGION"…then its a cult or a political movement. It CANT be a true religion.
show me in the koran , ayaats, hadits, where there is a talk about "how to lose ones ego, attachment, lust"…"how to experience God as one lives"…." how to feel the vibration of Gods name "….Its not there in the qoran , or ayaats, or Hadits
Is there any muslim living or dead who has had an out of body experience?
Is there any muslim living or dead who has had some kind of healing powers?
Is there any muslim living or dead who HAS seen Gods Light?
There are myriad instances of these in Christianity, In Buddhism, In Hinduism , In Sikhism, In Jews, In Taoism, In Shamanism, In Jains…BUT not in islam.
muslims are living in a delusion in a false world where they are being misguided en masse .This misguidance is based on two things. 1)The 72 virgin girls and 28 virgin boys.2)after death a muslim will live in Paradise .
the qoran is the only book which PRAISES a human prophet. Nowhere else is there so much narcissism . It canonizes a person who claims to be a prophet . For proof muslims say " read Koran".if u raise questions muslim will say " how dare u question the koran". This is nothing but force and human pressure of a cult.
"prophet" mohammed claimed that koran is from god and if u want proof of my prophethood , read it. What a SILLY circular reference.
Harminder, I'm mighty impressed with your understanding of the mystical experience. Yes, the summum bonum of all mystical experience is the loss of ego, the merging of the individual with the cosmic and transcendental self.

As you rightly pointed out, Islam is all about individual aggrandizement. It's all about "how we muslims are the special recipients of God's revelation," "how our prophet is the last and definitive prophet," "how favored we muslims are in comparison to non muslims," and other chest thumping claims.

When I read the posts of MUQ the mystical poverty of Islam is starkly brought out in all its naked glory. There is nothing in Islam which provides succor to the human soul, nothing which satisfies the deep yearning for the highest values of truth, love and beauty. Islam is as barren as the desert in which it was born. The sensual paradise which it promises is actually a weak compensation for the spiritual barrenness of Islam.

Since: Feb 13

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#37791 Feb 17, 2013
Isn't there a law in thermodynamics which states that the natural order is towards chaos..?

Human beings,unschooled in self-discipline are much the same-they tend towards things which can disrupt a society and hence amoral...

One can read about Hinduism with a text on basic psychology for a college course on the side.one can switch from one to another and try to fine tune oneself to become a better human being.

Try that with "laws" of Islam....it is well nigh impossible!!!
Dabang

Kolkata, India

#37792 Feb 17, 2013
lMl2000 wrote:
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It is true that Egyptians were recording their histories very well and some has been found and a lot is missing. The trouble about Egyptian history or even for our own Indus valley civilization is that none of the writings found can be understood or read. It is very unfortunate but this is the case so Moses, Abraham and all the things cannot be referred. We don't for sure if Moses wa future s not called Tutankhamun and Moses was known as Akhenaten. We know Alexander is known as Sikander in India and Krishna is known as Natwar to many - Not knowing doesn't mean not existing ! Right? Huge sites have been excavated but historians are able to see but not understand them - literally lund le ke haath mein khadde hein and scratching their heads. Heard of Machu Picchu? Still they have not been able to figure out as to how those heavy boulders went up the hill in those days !
You should bother about your own Indian history as answers are easy - nothing happened - no one came - no one ruled - no economy - no education - we are nothing - hence, the equation is 0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0+0 = 0 ! Very simple !
Kya bolta, Bhiddu?
Mr. Crazy Bull, is your father ? An indian or Prince Charlse ?? LMAO !

Since: Feb 13

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#37793 Feb 17, 2013
The most precious gift of life I had was watching one or two elderly male relatives who LIVED the way a Hindu is supposed to live.

One was a highly successful lawyer and the other was a highly successful industrialist...never have I seen men so accomplished yet so self effacing and humble.

My relative a very busy lawyer...once took time off when I was 9 or !0 to teach me how NOT fall sick...I remember him working even till 2 early morn to finish his legal briefs..but yet he took time to teach me how to boil water,clean a plate,inspect food before eating...all this because I had fallen sick drinking contaminated water..ah that was a MAN doing what he should do...he was my paternal uncle!!

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#37794 Feb 17, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>Even though non Muslim peoples accept the existence of Islam and in doing so must accept their Allah so non Muslims cannot be hated by Allah.
..Brilliant ..."Neville Thompson" ...and, I concur .." I accept that Islam ...exists .."

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#37795 Feb 17, 2013
Omnipresent wrote:
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Very true wealth is drifting East. But the East has yet to fully adapt the high level of importance given to meritocracy the West has.
...Even, here ...we have a saying .."It's not what you know , but who you know" ....

actually ..I don't believe China has a good future ; the one child policy , and pollution so bad that the air makes your clothes dirty ........will have to be remedied....
Chump Change

Danielson, CT

#37796 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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If I am "stuck" on Chapter 112, you easily "un stuck" me by bringing something which is like Chapter 112!!
You people are trying every trick in the trade except bringing a short 17 word composition in Arabic to match with Chapter 112.
And this is going on for past 1400 years. Do not think that no one tried it!!
And what is strange, I am just beginning a new series on this very thread about another verse in Quran!!
What a coincidence!!
Like I said you being a fanatic Muslim, you are stuck in time circa 1400. Nothing can make you unstuck. Muslims for this very reason cannot move forward and lack abilities and the education to survive in this ever changing world. Stay there. It's where you belong. Don't blame the rest of us if we find Islam to be the biggest fraud on humanity. The other fraud Muslims like you believe in is that Islam will dominate the world! ROFL!!!
Earlier I had asked you to check the educational and economist stats of Muslim only countries. Did you? You might also check what has been the contribution of the entire Muslim world over the last 100 or so years. You guys are getting creamed everywhere. Islam is at odds with every other religion including itself! The 2 biggest sects Sunnis and Shias are busy killing each other each claiming themselves to be the "True Muslim"!
So MUQ I ask you who amongst you is a "true" Muslim, Shias or Sunnis?
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#37797 Feb 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Dear Mahmood Sahib
You are just wasting your time.
If some people wrote Quran, then it is much easier to do that now.
So just get busy and bring your reply to chapter 112.
You are just beating behind the bush, if you would have tried , you would have learned A, B, C of Arabic and your reply to chapter 112 would have been ready many fold by now!!
My dear Maulana Sahib,

I believe I have already done it. I gave something better than Sura 112 and that was Article 18 of the charter of human rights. Now show me the orignal manuscripts of Sura Baqarah?

Looking forward to your response.
abu bakar

United States

#37798 Feb 17, 2013
sameer wrote:
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Thats how a real muslim think. Muslim cry foul that Islam is Non-Violent, and at the same time they demand sharia law. Muslims says islam teaches tolerance, but at the same time they try to attack churches, temples. and always try to convert non-muslims into islamic cult. They say there is no restriction in Islam, and at the same time they kill anybody who try to conver into other religion and say his openion about Mu ham mad .
islam iz a religion f piece i challenge u that before muslim rule in india give me one example of making non muslim to muslim bye force today islam iz one f the fastest spreading religion how it iz possible ? until muslims r not super power in the world?
madina charter is the one example of the muhammad(SAW) love with piece
what india is doing in kashmir?
Chump Change

Danielson, CT

#37799 Feb 17, 2013
abu bakar wrote:
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islam iz a religion f piece i challenge u that before muslim rule in india give me one example of making non muslim to muslim bye force today islam iz one f the fastest spreading religion how it iz possible ? until muslims r not super power in the world?
madina charter is the one example of the muhammad(SAW) love with piece
what india is doing in kashmir?
India is blowing up katu Muslim gand in Kashmir.
Dabang

Kundan, India

#37800 Feb 17, 2013
Can MUQ write a book like Gita or Guru Granth Sahib ?
Dabang

Kundan, India

#37801 Feb 17, 2013
kasmirio ne gandu bulbul shah ke behkane par islam kubul kiya aur apne hinduo ko satana suru kar diya. aaj barbaric islam ko apnane ka wo natija bhugat rahe hai hai. islam unke unke liye peace nahi balki terrorism aur maar kaat ka paigam lekar aaya hai. jaha bhi muslim jyada hai waha aman chain nahi ho sakta. ye fact hai.
Chump Change

Danielson, CT

#37803 Feb 17, 2013
Dabang wrote:
Can MUQ write a book like Gita or Guru Granth Sahib ?
The only book MUQ can recite verbatim is the Koran written by Allah himself. Muslims after all own Allah the only true God!
Don't ask him to stretch his brain. It has lost its capacity to expand.
Chump Change

Danielson, CT

#37804 Feb 17, 2013
Bollywood extending its support for Modi! White boy Rahul left sucking his thumb curled up in mommy Sonia's lap! What say dirty filthy uncouth uncultured Muslim Chaddi?
ROFL!!!

Modi a dynamic leader to become prime minister: Vivek Oberoi - The Times of India

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainm...
Deedat

Mumbai, India

#37806 Feb 17, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..Brilliant ..."Neville Thompson" ...and, I concur .." I accept that Islam ...exists .."
Islam exits as Red ants also exit
Deedat

Mumbai, India

#37807 Feb 17, 2013
Dabang wrote:
Can MUQ write a book like Gita or Guru Granth Sahib ?
Neither Muq (Qidwai sahib) and collective 1.5 billion Muslims can produce a book like Gita or Guru Granth Sahib. The so called Islamic scholars like Zakir Naik, Anjum etc just runs when i ask them simple questions.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#37808 Feb 17, 2013
Deedat wrote:
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Islam exits as Red ants also exit
..I "also" agree ..I accept that "red" ants DO exist ....praise Allah..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#37809 Feb 17, 2013
Snarling Chingis Khan wrote:
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Thank you..."limelight" is a word I like and that is why I keep posting here,I guess?!?!?!?:):
.."limelight" is a nice word ....I like "DIARRHEA"...but, it's very difficult to use in polite company ...:(

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