No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

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'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Jan 27, 2013
 
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Victoria premier condemns 'sickening' racial attack on Indians
Melbourne Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu today condemned as "sickening" an alleged racial attack on two young Indian women on a local bus in Australia, while denouncing the idea of racism as "contemptible" and "disgraceful".
In an incident that reportedly happened on December 12, a woman of solid built who has been described as "very manly" slapped the Indian women while racially abusing them after getting off a bus in Melbourne, the police has said.
The premier said "the reports of two women being attacked on a bus due to their cultural background is sickening, the overwhelming number of Victorians find racism disgraceful".
"Racism is contemptible, disgraceful, cowardly and illegal. Victorians are proud to be the multicultural centre of Australia and anything that looks to diminish our multiculturalism needs to be challenged," Baillieu said in a statement released by his office.
He said his government has done more than any other government in the past to welcome members of the Indian community.
"We stand shoulder to shoulder with Victoria's Indian community," he said.
According to local police, the aggressor woman had launched her attack when one of the sisters accidentally knocked her with a handbag.
The sister whose bag had bumped the larger woman had tried to apologise, but the aggressive woman shouted abuse and told the sisters to "go back to your own country".
Other things were said but Senior Sergeant Bills did not specify what they were.
The girls got off the bus, the woman followed them, slapped them and smashed a mobile phone," he said. The woman then got into a taxi.
Security footage from the bus was not available, Bills said, because the camera was faulty.
NB: We have been under severe pressure from the international community to mend ways or we shall keep getting roughed up for the way we look. I find this so unfair. Oh MUQ !
Oh! Arch Chaddi! Victim could easily have been the very Chaddi posting this if he were the one to meet that racist individual! What a waste of cut and paste effort!
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Jan 27, 2013
 
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NRIs in your world are barely tolerated as third-class citizens in the Middle East. Is anyone going to fight back?
In 2010, on a public bus in Dubai, an Indian family of four sitting in the front row of seats (marked ‘LADIES & FAMILIES’) was asked to move themselves – along with several large bags from Dubai Mall – to the back of the bus. They did so without hesitation, and none of the other passengers on the bus were moved to speak up, many of whom were also Indian. The event went unreported and the family got on with their lives.
This story was told to me by a colleague who visited Dubai earlier this year. It isn’t the fact that this family was asked to move that is in itself shocking, though fifty years on from Rosa Parks, it is certainly saddening; it’s the fact that this only happens to third-class citizens – the Filipinos, the Nepalis, and of course the millions of Indians. An American or British family wouldn’t have been asked in the first place, and if they had been, they would likely have fought back in outrage. Not the Indians. It begs the question: where will the new Rosa Parks come from?
The Indians, however, reacted with an apathy that is unfortunately completely understandable. After all, the key difference between those Americans or British who wind up visiting or living in the Gulf states and the Indians who do the same is deep and all-influencing: the Indians, almost to a man, have to struggle from the outset. The typical story goes something like this:
Pay an agent somewhere between Rs. 50,000-100,000 just to get ’sponsored’, set up with a job and get your visa, perhaps via dubious channels.
Actually get to Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Doha/Muscat/Riyadh and find yourself crammed into a tiny apartment with ten other guys,
queue from 5am for the bathroom,
slave away on a construction site all day,
come back to your mattress and collapse.
Repeat until Friday when you can maybe talk to the folks back home for a minute until your Etisalat credit runs out. Saturday (or Sunday if you’re lucky), start over. The work may be hard, your roommates may be irritating, your boss may be a horrible person. Just have to deal with it.
Some can’t. One guy I know hacked it for three months in Dubai ...rs, and a huge contribution to the family assets back home. Modern Kerala is almost entirely built on Gulf money, and some folks become very successful.
After struggling for so long, often for so little, it isn’t at all surprising that he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. He would risk losing his job, his house, his career, and even his right to stay in the United Arab Emirates. On the other hand, he would personally stand to gain nothing more than a maintained ego at the end of perhaps decades’ worth of striving.
There is an obvious and important difference between Rosa Parks and ‘Antony RG’: Parks was in her own country, and standing up to her own discriminatory law.‘Antony’, and all of his fellow Indians in the Gulf, are very much outsiders – perhaps even third-class citizens, after Emiratis and whites – and at bottom the UAE isn’t his place, his land. His struggle is with dealing with that land, with its unfamiliar laws, desert heat and discriminatory attitudes, and not with fighting back against them. It is a struggle that seems to be self-perpetuating, a cycle of low standards, apathetic struggle and grim acceptance; struggling to live in the dire situation presented, using up all the energy that could be used to struggle against it.
One who used others' IDs cannot be relied upon anything at all. Could the family being moved be a Pakistani? When I was in Dubai some 10 years ago, some Pakistanis complained to me that new middle class Dubai Arabs treated them badly everywhere except when in the mosques.

when I was in Dacca, the taxi driver who worked for three years in Saudi Arabia told us (there were other delegates from Europe) that Saudis treated them like inferior slaves.

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Jan 27, 2013
 
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Can we compare Narendra Modi with Dawood Ibrahim?
After comparing Ashoka the Great and Aurangzeb, it is time to compare the two contemporaries of our time.
Many people will be shocked that I am speaking of Narendra Modi and Dawood Ibrahim in the same breath. How could one compare these two? They are poles apart from each other?
Are they really that apart from each other? Let us analyze their crime list in an unbiased way:
A. Crimes of Dawood Abrahim:
1. He was an Underworld Dawn and engaged in gang war and smuggling and lots of illegal activities.
2. In 1993 he was the mastermind of the Multiple Bomb Blasts in Bombay that killed close to 250 innocent people and damaged some Govt. buildings and properties.
3. And then he is hiding from Indian Police and Indian Army is on his look out to arrest him and bring him to justice for the murder of those 250 innocent Indians.
This is in short the crime list of Dawood Ibrahim.
B. Crime List of Narendra Modi:
1. Before being “imposed” as Chief Minister of Gujarat, he was also an “Underground man”. He was protégé of RSS and no one knew much about him.
2. Then in 2002, he was the mastermind of the Gujarat riots that resulted in killing of thousands of innocent Muslims.
3. He failed to protect the lives of these Muslims which was his “duty” as a Chief Minister of State and his constitutional duties.
4. And he instead of owning up his mistakes is trying to mislead police and court investigations by every trick known to a politician.
He has been criticised by Supreme Court so many times which is un paralleled in the history of Indian politics for past 60 years.
Any one can see that Crime List of Narendra Modi is more serious than that of Dawood Ibrahim and he deserves more serious punishment than some one who is merely an underworld Don.
C. Excuses for Modi:
1. Some people try to find excuses for Modi, saying that Gujarat riots were reaction to the burning of Kar Sewaks in Godhra. And Modi being a Hindu shared in their anger and so should be dealt with leniently.
2. This is a very wrong excuse, because you cannot take revenge of a crime committed by some people on other innocent people of the community and as a Chief Minister, he should have kept his emotions in check.
3. And then the same excuse can be used for Dawood Ibrahim, because there were Anti Muslim riots in Bombay after the demolition of Babri Masjid in Ayodhya in 1992. And the Bombay blasts of 1993 were a direct result of that riot.
Why we give excuse to one party and not to another one? Just because one is Hindu and another a Muslim?
D. Public Service Done by Modi:
1. Then many people point finger at the “development” which Modi has done in Gujarat in past 10 years. These good deeds in their view have absolved any sins that he might have committed in 2002 Gujarat riots.
2. This is a very wrong perception, first we do not know how good would have been Dawood Ibrahim, if he was made Chief Minister of any state.

And in the eyes of law a criminal is a criminal, irrespective of his position and what he has done.
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Dak-Original wrote:
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NRIs in your world are barely tolerated as third-class citizens in the Middle East. Is anyone going to fight back?
In 2010, on a public bus in Dubai, an Indian family of four sitting in the front row of seats (marked ‘LADIES & FAMILIES’) was asked to move themselves – along with several large bags from Dubai Mall – to the back of the bus. They did so without hesitation, and none of the other passengers on the bus were moved to speak up, many of whom were also Indian. The event went unreported and the family got on with their lives.
This story was told to me by a colleague who visited Dubai earlier this year. It isn’t the fact that this family was asked to move that is in itself shocking, though fifty years on from Rosa Parks, it is certainly saddening; it’s the fact that this only happens to third-class citizens – the Filipinos, the Nepalis, and of course the millions of Indians. An American or British family wouldn’t have been asked in the first place, and if they had been, they would likely have fought back in outrage. Not the Indians. It begs the question: where will the new Rosa Parks come from?
The Indians, however, reacted with an apathy that is unfortunately completely understandable. After all, the key difference between those Americans or British who wind up visiting or living in the Gulf states and the Indians who do the same is deep and all-influencing: the Indians, almost to a man, have to struggle from the outset. The typical story goes something like this:
Pay an agent somewhere between Rs. 50,000-100,000 just to get ’sponsored’, set up with a job and get your visa, perhaps via dubious channels.
Actually get to Dubai/Abu Dhabi/Doha/Muscat/Riyadh and find yourself crammed into a tiny apartment with ten other guys,
queue from 5am for the bathroom,
slave away on a construction site all day,
come back to your mattress and collapse.
Repeat until Friday when you can maybe talk to the folks back home for a minute until your Etisalat credit runs out. Saturday (or Sunday if you’re lucky), start over. The work may be hard, your roommates may be irritating, your boss may be a horrible person. Just have to deal with it.
Some can’t. One guy I know hacked it for three months in Dubai before flying back ro Kerala, his pride wounded but with a vision of previously taken-for-granted greenery and family to guide him. Those that do make it, and stay for years, can work their way up into new positions, more money, different and more appealing careers, and a huge contribution to the family assets back home. Modern Kerala is almost entirely built on Gulf money, and some folks become very successful.
After struggling for so long, often for so little, it isn’t at all surprising that he doesn’t want to cause a fuss. He would risk losing his job, his house, his career, and even his right to stay in the United Arab Emirates. On the other hand, he would personally stand to gain nothing more than a maintained ego at the end of perhaps decades’ worth of striving.
There is an obvious and important difference between Rosa Parks and ‘Antony RG’: Parks was in her own country, and standing up to her own discriminatory law.‘Antony’, and all of his fellow Indians in the Gulf, are very much outsiders – perhaps even third-class citizens, after Emiratis and whites – and at bottom the UAE isn’t his place, his land. His struggle is with dealing with that land, with its unfamiliar laws, desert heat and discriminatory attitudes, and not with fighting back against them. It is a struggle that seems to be self-perpetuating, a cycle of low standards, apathetic struggle and grim acceptance; struggling to live in the dire situation presented, using up all the energy that could be used to struggle against it.
Thanks for the news,please keep posting from this i.p so that nobody can steal your chaddi
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Jan 27, 2013
 

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E. Is it mandatory to follow Prophet and Scriptures?
16. When the Easiest of true path and guidance is provided from God, any one trying "his own means" to reach God and find out His rights is playing with fire.
17. That is why once the prophets are sent, every one from that nation must follow the guidance received thru their prophets.
Those who reject prophets, are in fact rebelling against their Creator, they are called as Unbelievers or Kaffirs in Arabic language.
17A. And humans will be called to give accounts of their lives before their Creator on day of Judgment and on that day what they did in life shall be shown to them.
17B. Those who followed the teachings of their prophets shall go to paradise and those who rejected shall be destined for hell.
F. Are all religions same or they are different?
18. I know that people following a particular brand of religion will not agree to it, but in reality, essentials of all God. Revealed religions are same!!
How else is possible that a Wise and Merciful God will send contradictory guidance to different nations?
19. The fundamentals of all revealed religions are to Worship only True God, shun worship of idols and false gods and follow your prophet.
20. Since all religions did not came at the same time and not in the same nation, so there might be some "adjustments" to take care of that particular nation or the needs of human civilization of the time.
G. Were these religions meant to continue forever?
21. I know the followers of different religions would argue that their religions were destined to run till eternity, but the situation is not this.
22. In God's plan, there was a time, when the human civilization is grown up to its maturity and mans of interaction between nations are practical, to unite all these different religions, into One religion.
23. And that was done by sending a Universal Messenger and a Universal Book, that includes the bests of the bests of all earlier scriptures and joins humanity into one Group as they were one First Human came into the earth.
That Universal Messenger was no other than Prophet Mohammad and that Universal Book is Quran.
24. And to make "doubly sure" that no follower of "their own religion might blame their prophet", God did include prophesy about Last and Final Prophet in each and every revealed book that He Sent!!
So the blame of not believing in the Final prophet and Final revelation should rest with people and not with God or any of His past messengers and prophets.
H. Answers to your queries:
a. One has to follow Quran as it is the Only Source to know what are Likes and Dislikes of our Creator. It is the ONLY book on the earth which is unadulterated and shows us the right path.
b. If one tries to find "his own way" to be good, there is more than 99.99 % chances that he might fall into error and cause harm to himself and others.
c. Many Christians are good no doubt and Jesus Christ was a True messenger of God. But if Christians reject Final Prophet whom Jesus prophesized, they are on the wrong side of God.
In the hereafter, Jesus will not support these "Christians" and say I told you to follow the last prophet, why did you not do it.
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I hope you will tolerate my longish post.
Any which way? OH! MUQ! All religions are claims and no religion mentioned the fact of the Evolution of Specis. You are not a party to a procedural books on requirements of "sending error prone prophet/s", etc. All religions are inventions of humans and no religion or a "prophet" then can claim a monopoly of GOD!

I believe the Real GOD will punish all those who knowingly spread lies and make plebs kill To" defend" mere belief matters. OH MUQ! Do you support the chadii's taqiya game here?
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Dak-Original wrote:
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Any which way? OH! MUQ! All religions are claims and no religion mentioned the fact of the Evolution of Specis. You are not a party to a procedural books on requirements of "sending error prone prophet/s", etc. All religions are inventions of humans and no religion or a "prophet" then can claim a monopoly of GOD!
I believe the Real GOD will punish all those who knowingly spread lies and make plebs kill To" defend" mere belief matters. OH MUQ! Do you support the chadii's taqiya game here?
Madarchod !

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Jan 27, 2013
 
Dak-Original wrote:
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OH MUQ! Do you support the chadii's taqiya game here?
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You have asked very important and very fundamental questions, so instead of answering your post with simple 'Yes" or "No", I would like to make some foundation. After that I might post short answers to your questions

Once you go thru this preface, I think, you will not see "only one chaddi but only chaddis and more chaddis".

A. Concept of Chaddi:

01.First you should realize that there is no One Chaddi in this forum. There are different wearers, one who makes fun of Hindus, another who makes fun of Muslims, another who made innocent posters like you and me.

02. Due to change in support numbers, people call for more chaddis for example from Hindus there is only one hindu chaddi who is scared that his religion is about to be trampled and shall evaporate in thin air if he does not do his crazy dance daily. I am speaking about chump chillar or some crazy name he is wearing. Do you approve his chaddi? He is chaddi master of the century or Mother of all chaddis?

03. The worst part about not wearing chaddis is too many complications as if some nice post is written you all Hindus do not respond and ignore it as if such a post never existed.

Like ignoring good points that highlights Islam in Asoka Vs Aurangzeb and Dawood bhai vs Nanu Modi comparison.

04. Proper Concept of attire is necessary before we talk about the chaddis. Quranic Concept of chaddi doesn't exist as we wear salwars an all time battle ready outfit which is most Pure and unadulterated than what we find in your chaddis.

B. What is Taqqiya?

05. Now we come to Taqqiya should only be used to sleep at night or afternoon.

06. The basic purpose of Taqqiya is that humans give to God some time in bed and humm praises to his gift to us.

07. This is in essence basic purpose of every Taqqiya, the forms might be different but in essence these should be basically for sleeping at night. harminder has other uses for it as he replaces his wife with it whose breasts now hang near her ankles and punani is rubbed against the floor when she walks.

C. Are posters free to make their own Taqqiyas?

08. This is a tricky question and many people do not understand it and fall into error.

09. Truly speaking any one with uncluttered mind and with correct human stints can find ways to find manufacturer and give Him His Rights and also to humans their rights.

10. But very few humans can do this, and that is why Taqqiya in its ignorance goes off to sleep.

To answer your question now, NO I do not like chaddi but Yes to Taqqiya and deep sleep in the night.

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Jan 27, 2013
 
Dak-Original wrote:
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NRIs in your world are barely tolerated as third-class citizens in the Middle East. Is anyone going to fight back?
In 2010, on a public bus in Dubai, an Indian family of four sitting in the front row of seats (marked ‘LADIES & FAMILIES’) was asked to move themselves – along with several large bags from Dubai Mall – to the back of the bus. They did so without hesitation, and none of the other passengers on the bus were moved to speak up, many of whom were also Indian. The event went unreported and the family got on with their lives.
This story was told to me by a colleague who visited Dubai earlier this year.
..."MUQ" does not have to be told of the racism and tribalism "endemic" and perhaps even encouraged by the faith of Mohammad .....

I'm sure the man does not venture out , after dark ...
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Jan 27, 2013
 
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Ha.....ha....Didn't I tell you Haj Subsidy is a conspiracy to liquidate or get rid off Muslims ?????<quoted text>
India should increase Haj subsidies and let the hulls fall in the Indian Ocean where katus can become food for fish like Osama!

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Jan 27, 2013
 
endtime wrote:
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..bzzzt..WRONG...!!!...The Anti-Christ will come out of Israel ...after a very great war ...WWIII, or WWIV.(world war three, world war four)....???..Who can say ..

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Jan 27, 2013
 
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Kuttiya ki aulaad gandu Hindu,

Chal ab lund choos dholakiye ka!
How does one compare the murder and rape of the New Delhi woman ...with that of the murder of Shahzeb Khan in Karachi....
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Madarchod !
Dak-Original wrote:
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This chaddi cretin has accepted my post and has no response and so he resorts to profanities. Bad sand in the head human. I believe real GOD will not forgive this sort of lot!

My post was: " Any which way? OH! MUQ! All religions are claims and no religion mentioned the fact of the Evolution of Specis. You are not a party to a procedural books on requirements of "sending error prone prophet/s", etc. All religions are inventions of humans and no religion or a "prophet" then can claim a monopoly of GOD!
I believe the Real GOD will punish all those who knowingly spread lies and make plebs kill To" defend" mere belief matters. OH MUQ! Do you support the chadii's taqiya game here?
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Jan 27, 2013
 
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<quoted text>How does one compare the murder and rape of the New Delhi woman ...with that of the murder of Shahzeb Khan in Karachi....
chuy,

Can you tell us how many girls have you raped in your non existent sexual sojourn
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Jan 27, 2013
 
MUQ - wrote:
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Ans.
You have asked very important and very fundamental questions, so instead of answering your post with simple 'Yes" or "No", I would like to make some foundation. After that I might post short answers to your questions
Once you go thru this preface, I think, you will not see "only one chaddi but only chaddis and more chaddis".
A. Concept of Chaddi:
01.First you should realize that there is no One Chaddi in this forum. There are different wearers, one who makes fun of Hindus, another who makes fun of Muslims, another who made innocent posters like you and me.
02. Due to change in support numbers, people call for more chaddis for example from Hindus there is only one hindu chaddi who is scared that his religion is about to be trampled and shall evaporate in thin air if he does not do his crazy dance daily. I am speaking about chump chillar or some crazy name he is wearing. Do you approve his chaddi? He is chaddi master of the century or Mother of all chaddis?
03. The worst part about not wearing chaddis is too many complications as if some nice post is written you all Hindus do not respond and ignore it as if such a post never existed.
Like ignoring good points that highlights Islam in Asoka Vs Aurangzeb and Dawood bhai vs Nanu Modi comparison.
04. Proper Concept of attire is necessary before we talk about the chaddis. Quranic Concept of chaddi doesn't exist as we wear salwars an all time battle ready outfit which is most Pure and unadulterated than what we find in your chaddis.
B. What is Taqqiya?
05. Now we come to Taqqiya should only be used to sleep at night or afternoon.
06. The basic purpose of Taqqiya is that humans give to God some time in bed and humm praises to his gift to us.
07. This is in essence basic purpose of every Taqqiya, the forms might be different but in essence these should be basically for sleeping at night. harminder has other uses for it as he replaces his wife with it whose breasts now hang near her ankles and punani is rubbed against the floor when she walks.
C. Are posters free to make their own Taqqiyas?
08. This is a tricky question and many people do not understand it and fall into error.
09. Truly speaking any one with uncluttered mind and with correct human stints can find ways to find manufacturer and give Him His Rights and also to humans their rights.
10. But very few humans can do this, and that is why Taqqiya in its ignorance goes off to sleep.
To answer your question now, NO I do not like chaddi but Yes to Taqqiya and deep sleep in the night.
I was referring to this particular chaddi and his post but you wriggled out with the usual no "yes or no" but a diversionary tactic which talks about the obvious fact of more than one using other's IDs here and choosing an alternate meaning for the Arabic word "takiya". Oh! MUQ! such filibustering does show you up here!
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Jan 27, 2013
 
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<quoted text>..."MUQ" does not have to be told of the racism and tribalism "endemic" and perhaps even encouraged by the faith of Mohammad .....
I'm sure the man does not venture out , after dark ...
I hope you were aware that you were responding to the chaddi/fake dak!
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Jan 27, 2013
 
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<quoted text>How does one compare the murder and rape of the New Delhi woman ...with that of the murder of Shahzeb Khan in Karachi....
I believe you are a homosexual so why this sudden interest in women?
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Dak-0riginal wrote:
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chuy,
Can you tell us how many girls have you raped in your non existent sexual sojourn
You want to do him too?
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Dak-0riginal wrote:
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chuy,
Can you tell us how many girls have you raped in your non existent sexual sojourn
Chuy, why engage into a banter with this shameless cretin chaddi?
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Dak-Original wrote:
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I was referring to this particular chaddi and his post but you wriggled out with the usual no "yes or no" but a diversionary tactic which talks about the obvious fact of more than one using other's IDs here and choosing an alternate meaning for the Arabic word "takiya". Oh! MUQ! such filibustering does show you up here!
Chadddi expert, that guy was not real MUQ - it was your chillar who faked an answer from muq and you got sucked in. O Dak OHHHHH DAK !
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Observer wrote:
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Cornered Muslim rats like Chaddi IMI have no other recourse but profanity. The other rat MUQ starts copy pasting volumes of his Nectar posts by unknowns like Al-Maqtoom, Al-Mecca, Al-Medina or Aloo Bukhara to hide from the severe poundings he is receiving. In reality they are begging us to stop our merciless poundings while they are whimpering in their corners.
Lundscuker...why are you even dreaming about your God imi here...has he fcuked your brains out that you only choose to have his lund up your gand. There is no shame in admitting that he spreadeagled you on your cut and has violently violated your fudda.

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