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No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54739 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Dak-original

Southampton, UK

#35769 Jan 20, 2013
lndia wrote:
<quoted text>
Massacre (pogrom) is what was organized in Gujarat. Rest of the conflicts between hindu and muslims are due to riots. There is a big difference in riots and pogroms. Riots in Gujarat and Bihar were started by Hindus as in 1947 too.
A pogrom is a planned massacre. Massacres in 1947 were ad hoc or "localised progroms" (tit for tat revenge) or opportunistic destabilisation to accommodate refugees from each side. All wring and regrettable but Nehru was worried about such eventualities long before 1947.

In Gujarat, there were few in government who chose to neglect to let the Police control riots promptly. However, riot is the right word since 30% of victims were not muslims. Culprits who interfered with the Police and even a politician who made inflammatory speech once riots were under way have all been sentenced in India. Also, those who planned attack on the jingoistic kar sevaks of the BJP have been sentenced. Now, likes of you want one-sided victim hood whilst supporting the jihadist agenda are the real flies in the ointment.

If Islam gives up jihadism then muslims and others of other faiths or no faith can get along better to develop future of all. Since all religions are nothing but invention of human minds, why can any religion not be subject to reformation?
Dak-original

Southampton, UK

#35770 Jan 20, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>
A) Are you the "real beady"...??
B)Animals do not possess "immortal" souls ...we do ...
C)Mankind has for centuries sought for the meaning of life and suffering and of what becomes of us ,after death ....the, bookstore has a whole section , dedicated to just this topic .
I suppose all living things have a soul. It is not right to say "I can eat other animals since they have no soul". It is right to say that "in the food chain, living things eat other living things".
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35771 Jan 20, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
1.Yes Beady is CaCa
2.Thankyou I had forgotten about Hindu and Buddhists.
3.Your journey can only begin when you die.
3a.May the force be with you.
#3)..Death ,will be too late ...to begin anything ..!
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35772 Jan 20, 2013
Dak-original wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose all living things have a soul. It is not right to say "I can eat other animals since they have no soul". It is right to say that "in the food chain, living things eat other living things".
...so long , as you don't think humans, can be included into that food chain ....I will agree..
Chhutta Chillar

Ardsley, NY

#35773 Jan 20, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Modi gujrat tak hi rahega,yad haina nitish ne gand pe laat mar k kaise bhagaya tha usko,centre se advani,jaitley,sushma bhi same karenge ,sapna dkhte reh
Arey bhai nakli harminder kuch buri khabar.
Yeh kya ho raha hai? Modi Gujarat main aur Britain aur America Gujarat paunch gaye? Aise kaise? Ab dono usko visa dene chahate hain? Aise kaise mian? Ab IMI ki id main aa ja aur ek lamba post zaroor likhna. Hum bahut khus honge!!!

Narendra Modi: Hugging him close | The Economist

http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/10...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35774 Jan 20, 2013
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum,(THE SEALED NECTAR, Biography of the Noble Prophet [pbuh], by SAFI UL RAHMAN al-Mubarakpuri
Jamia Salafia - India Translated by Issam Diab Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers and Distributors, Part- 60
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_t...

Compaign of Bani Qainuqa‘

We have already spoken about the treaty that the Prophet [pbuh] signed with the Jews. He was very careful to abide by it to the letter and the Muslims did not show the least violation of any of its provisions. The Jews, however, whose natural disposition is closely linked to treachery, betrayal and covenant-breaching, could not rid themselves of the tradition of theirs, and started a process of intrigues and troublemaking with the aim of producing schism in the growing solid Muslim ranks. Here is a relevant model of their behaviour: Shas bin Qais, an elderly Jew, a terrible disbeliever and a greatly envious man of the Muslims, passed by a group of Muhammad [pbuh]’s followers of Aws and Khazraj.

He perceived a prevalent spirit of reconciliation and an atmosphere of rapport and amity enveloping the whole group; an unusual scene categorically in conflict with the animosity and hatred that characterized their pre-Islam behaviour. He, therefore, sent a youth of his to sit among them, remind them of Bu‘ath war between them and recite some of their verses which they used to compose satirizing each other; all of this with the intention of sowing the seeds of discord and disagreement and undermining the new Islamically-orientated inter-tribal relations. The youth did in fact succeed and the two parties at no time recalled the old days and pre-Islam tribal fanaticism sprang to the front to bring about a state of war.

The Prophet [pbuh] was reported of this account, and immediately, at the head of some Emigrants, set out to see to the situation. He began to rebuke them but in the manner of the great instructor and the tolerant spirit of the understanding guide: "O, Muslims! Do you still advance pre-Islamic arguments after I have been sent to you (as a Messenger). Remember that it is not rightful for you to turn backward after Allah has guided you to the Straight Path, delivered you from disbelief and created amity between you." The Muslims readily realized that it was a Satanic whim and a plot hatched by the enemies. They directly embraced each other and went back home quite satisfied and in full obedience to the Messenger of Allah [pbuh].[Ibn Hisham 1/555, 556]

Such were the practices of the Jews, trouble-making, dissension-sowing, falsehood-fabrication, faking belief in the day, and practising disbelief at night. In everyday life, they used to tighten the ropes of financial dealings on the Muslims. If they happened to owe a Muslim something, they would shirk their obligations on grounds that he had converted into a new religion and they would allege the basis of agreement was no longer valid. If it was the other way, they would never cease to harass him day and night to pay back the debt, all of which in a desperate attempt to demolish the great edifice of the new religion that was rapidly gaining ground and speedily towering up skyward.

MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#35775 Jan 20, 2013
The Qainuqa‘ Jews breach the Covenant

Seeing that Allah sided with the believers and granted them a manifest victory and perceiving the Muslims’ awesome presence in Madinah, the Jews could no longer contain themselves or conceal indignation. They started a series of provocative and harmful deeds publicly. The most wicked amongst them were the tribe of Banu Qainuqa‘, who lived in quarters within Madinah named after them. As for jobs, they took up goldsmithery, blacksmithing and crafts of making household instruments, that is why war weaponry was available in large quantities in their houses.

They counted 700 warriors, and were the most daring amongst the Jewish community in Arabia, and now the first to breach the covenant of cooperation and non-aggression which they had already countersigned with the Prophet [pbuh]. Their behaviour grew too impolite and unbearable. They started a process of trouble-making, jeering at the Muslims, hurting those who frequented their bazaars, and even intimidating their women.

Such things began to aggravate the general situation, so the Prophet [pbuh] gathered them in assemblage, admonished and called them to be rational, sensible and guided and cautioned against further transgression. Nevertheless they remained obdurate and paid no heed to his warning, and said: "Don’t be deluded on account of defeating some Quraishites inexperienced in the art of war. If you were to engage us in fight, you will realize that we are genuine war experts."

The answer of Banu Qainuqa‘ amounted, as seen, to war declaration. The Prophet [pbuh] suppressed his anger and advised the Muslims to be patient and forbearing and wait for what time might reveal.

The Jews, went too far in their transgression, presumptuous behaviour and licentious practices. One day a Jewish goldsmith provoked a Muslim woman whose genitals become uncovered when he had tied the edge of the garment to her back. A Muslim man happened to be there and killed the man; the Jews retaliated by killing that Muslim. The man’s family called the Muslims for help and war started.[Ibn Hisham 2/47,48]

On Saturday, Shawwal 15th, 2 A.H., the Prophet [pbuh] marched out with his soldiers, Hamzah bin ‘Abdul Muttalib, carrying the standard of the Muslims and laid siege to the Jews’ forts for 15 days. Allah cast fear into their hearts, and they were obliged to defer to the Messenger[pbuh]’s judgement on their lives, wealth, women and children; their hands were tied behind their backs.

At this point,‘Abdullah bin Ubai bin Salul started his hypocritical role and began to intercede for them persistently on grounds of former alliance between those Jews and His tribe Khazraj. Muhammad [pbuh] dealt with this man as being a Muslim -- He had faked conversion into Islam for only one month, by that time -- and so he granted him his request; for Islam accepts people at their face value. Banu Qainuqa‘ handed over all materials, wealth and war equipage to the Prophet [pbuh], who set aside one fifth and distributed the rest to his men. After that they were banished out of all Arabia to Azru‘a in Syria where they stayed for a while and soon perished away.

(Abridged
Contd.)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35780 Jan 20, 2013
CC wrote:
1.

MUQ
Should Indian Muslims accept the Haj subsidy? No Muslim country gives its citizens any subsidy so why should India? Is it ok for Indian Muslims to go on Haj accepting Haram subsidy?
Very straight questions for you to answer. No dancing around or avoiding them. Just straight answers for a change.

2.

MUQ
1.How is Muslim Brotherhood any different from Hinduvata?
2.How is Dr Zakir Naik any different from Dr Togadia?
Ans.

01. Hajj Subsidy:

The curse of our modern time is to use misnomers. Like

- They call Sodomy and Lesbians as Gay
- They call Women Exploitation as Women Freedom
- They call people exploitation as Democracy
- They call usury as Aid

In the same way, they call the difference in fares when you pay individual fares or when you charter a plane as Hajj Subsidy!!

Everyone knows that when you charter a full plane, the fares would be cheaper than when you pay for individual seats. And this difference in air fare is what Indian Govt. is advertising as "Hajj subsidy" as if they are doing a great favor to Indian Muslims.

Or even if they are paying Hajj subsidy to Muslims, how much money they are spending on these Kumbhs, Amarnath yatras and Other religious places yatras?

Govt. spending on Hindu Festivals is OK and when they spend a "pittance" on Muslims, our "secular minds" are disturbed?

Is that what is expected in a Secular Democratic India?

02. Muslim Brotherhood and Hnidnutva:

Muslim brotherhood is for organizing Muslims, while Hindutva is organizing Hindus against Muslims. They have only one point agenda, to spread hate and hatred against Muslims.

Muslim organizations do not preach hate and hatred against any community.

03. Dr. Zakir Naik Versus Togadiya:

Dr. Zakir Naik is a public speaker and his specialty is comparative religion. His speeches are based on reason and logic and he points out commonalties and differences between islam and other religions.

His speeches are never to incite hate and violence against any group or any religion.

Togadiya on the other hand is a hate preacher. His speeches are devoid of any scholarly material. His "Only" point is "why" a handful of Muslims ruled India for 1000 years…and now we should take revenge from them.

How could one even think of comparing Dr. Zakir Naik with Togadiya, I cannot understand.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35781 Jan 20, 2013
DAKO wrote:
1.

Remark made by A Oweisi cannot be deemed as "milder" and the muslim activist lady was one of the first one concerned about its impact on all but mainly on the majority of muslims who want to get on in life.

Thakrray lot wiled undue influence on the minds of many who do not support them. However, they have been charged. In your jihadist fervour and desires, you fail to notice the difference between legitimate political "trouble making" and outright call for discord via reference to killings. You told us that democracy is useless and best for one aspiring to rule is to fight his way up.(when we discussed the sorry blood letting situation in Syria). Democracy, with all its imperfections, avoids such fights. Oh! MUQ!

2.
Ans.

1. Only an "idiot" would call Owaisi Remark a Serious one? It was Media which created they hype and as usual the "Govt. and Police and Courts woke up from their slumber and started running here and there"…..Same was as Maharastra Police acted on that "Facebook comments on the death of Bal Thakrey".

We see this dual policy of Indian Govt. Police and Courts and Media to deal with Hindu Extremists and so called Muslim extremists. See how they deal with Naxalites, always ready to "befriend and pardon them" and then see their 'Tough attitude in Kashmir"

02. No Shiv Sena or RSS or VHP "hardliners" have been charged for making Anti Muslim speeches.

03. I did not say that Democracy is bad, I said that Islam promotes democracy, but not this Western type of Democracy, where a minority always rule over majority.

Look in India where a mere 10-15 people of Brahmin, Baniya and Thakurs rule over 85 % of Indian population.

04. The violence in Muslim countries is because they do not follow either islam or Islamic democracy.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#35782 Jan 20, 2013
Observer wrote:
MUQ,
In case you misunderstood my post let me clarify it. I am not only telling you Muslims play a dual role I am stating in and reiterating it for the record. Is that clear enough?
Don't squirm in anguish when we mongooses hold your snake necks and squeeze the life out of it.
Ans.

01. So you have become prosecutor, jury, judge and executioner, all in one? And who gave you that right to hold this position?

02. So Mr. Mangoose, where were you and your gang members hiding when Muslims ruled India for those 1000 years? Hiding into caves and praying that storm should blow over and you come out? Cowards?
Rana Iqbal

Ashburn, VA

#35783 Jan 20, 2013
MUQ wrote:
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum,(THE SEALED NECTAR, Biography of the Noble Prophet [pbuh], by SAFI UL RAHMAN al-Mubarakpuri
Jamia Salafia - India Translated by Issam Diab Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers and Distributors, Part- 60
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_t...
Compaign of Bani Qainuqa‘
We have already spoken about the treaty that the Prophet [pbuh] signed with the Jews. He was very careful to abide by it to the letter and the Muslims did not show the least violation of any of its provisions. The Jews, however, whose natural disposition is closely linked to treachery, betrayal and covenant-breaching, could not rid themselves of the tradition of theirs, and started a process of intrigues and troublemaking with the aim of producing schism in the growing solid Muslim ranks. Here is a relevant model of their behaviour: Shas bin Qais, an elderly Jew, a terrible disbeliever and a greatly envious man of the Muslims, passed by a group of Muhammad [pbuh]’s followers of Aws and Khazraj.
He perceived a prevalent spirit of reconciliation and an atmosphere of rapport and amity enveloping the whole group; an unusual scene categorically in conflict with the animosity and hatred that characterized their pre-Islam behaviour. He, therefore, sent a youth of his to sit among them, remind them of Bu‘ath war between them and recite some of their verses which they used to compose satirizing each other; all of this with the intention of sowing the seeds of discord and disagreement and undermining the new Islamically-orientated inter-tribal relations. The youth did in fact succeed and the two parties at no time recalled the old days and pre-Islam tribal fanaticism sprang to the front to bring about a state of war.
The Prophet [pbuh] was reported of this account, and immediately, at the head of some Emigrants, set out to see to the situation. He began to rebuke them but in the manner of the great instructor and the tolerant spirit of the understanding guide: "O, Muslims! Do you still advance pre-Islamic arguments after I have been sent to you (as a Messenger). Remember that it is not rightful for you to turn backward after Allah has guided you to the Straight Path, delivered you from disbelief and created amity between you." The Muslims readily realized that it was a Satanic whim and a plot hatched by the enemies. They directly embraced each other and went back home quite satisfied and in full obedience to the Messenger of Allah [pbuh].[Ibn Hisham 1/555, 556]
Such were the practices of the Jews, trouble-making, dissension-sowing, falsehood-fabrication, faking belief in the day, and practising disbelief at night. In everyday life, they used to tighten the ropes of financial dealings on the Muslims. If they happened to owe a Muslim something, they would shirk their obligations on grounds that he had converted into a new religion and they would allege the basis of agreement was no longer valid. If it was the other way, they would never cease to harass him day and night to pay back the debt, all of which in a desperate attempt to demolish the great edifice of the new religion that was rapidly gaining ground and speedily towering up skyward.
Whatever you say but Mohammad's invasion of Banu Qurayza proves that he was a barbarian. He justified the killing of civilians. Mohammad's army enslaved women and children. His army raped the women of Banu Qurayza. Mohammad justified the rape of captured women (sura 33:50, sura 4:24). That was the reason why rajput women had to perform JAUHAR to save themselves from mohammadan jihadi armies.
Rana Iqbal

Ashburn, VA

#35784 Jan 20, 2013
Whatever you say but Mohammad's invasion of Banu Qurayza proves that he was a barbarian. He justified the killing of civilians. Mohammad's army enslaved women and children. His army raped the women of Banu Qurayza. Mohammad justified the rape of captured women (sura 33:50, sura 4:24). That was the reason why rajput women had to perform JAUHAR to save themselves from mohammadan jihadi armies.

Since: Nov 12

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#35785 Jan 20, 2013
Dragnet52 wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't expect anything different from a coward like you. Blockhead, change your pants after you log off. It must be stinking wet at the prospect of facing me.
So it means that you are going to smoke weed now. If that so is the case, why put limits to your imagination. You might as well fantasize yourself as prime minister himself.
I guess it is time for you and I to take on each other directly since your clones have failed to create a positive image for you. After all hundreds of clones, you are branded by your own side as "chump change" and me a "monster" ! LOL ! Looks like we both need to work hard to shed such stigmas.

It is no secret that you have defined me someone who has no life, no future, no substance, no character, no education and zero accomplishments. Right?

Just presenting one of such repetitive posts from you
Chump change wrote:
<quoted text>
.....Outright lies, deceit, misinformation, false propaganda, misstated "facts", totally imaginary posts of yours, over imagined "victories" are easily recognized by anyone and everyone here. You are being mocked you dirty filthy Muslim! You have no life, no future, no substance, no character, no education, zero accomplishments and at this rate you are heading at a breakneck speed to nowhere. I'll tell you why. A failure is a person who keeps repeating the same failed strategy and expecting a different outcome. Your life is stuck in quicksand where instead of flipping on you back and staying still to stop sinking further you are wildly flaying your hands and feet sinking deeper!
This time you were caught by me with your pants on your ankles, butt naked with crap leaking and you rushed to the same quicksand you were rescued out of to take a dump!!! How dumb are you???
Then, why in the world you are logged on to my posts? If there is nothing -no substance in my post then why in the world you are so perturbed and burning midnight oil to counter whatever I am writing ? There is a poster called "Yaudhya" to whom you hold in high esteem but I can assure you that for me he is the chutiya most poster ever born on this planet who would fit in to every word you have chosen for me in the post above and I have never told him that. Maybe one or two kick on his ass to get him out of my way but I have not persisted him. It is damn irritating to see him here or even read what he writes. I do not ever read him. The fact is that since I think of all that shit about him, he becomes an automatic repellent for me. How come you don't treat me that way?

I will tell you why? Because whatever I write, it is nothing but the truth or some damn version of the truth. You know it and it burns you up and makes you feel impotent.

Why do you think that I make fun of your posts? Despite of being full of embellishments, vulgar display of unnecessary grammar and phrases it earns you merely a title of Chump change ? Yaudhya earns that title merely by breaking wind with impunity out here? Let me demonstrate as to why I mean such a deal for your posts. Let us take the post to which I am replying to you. Just see what you have quote in there?

QUOTE " Didn't expect anything different from a coward like you. Blockhead, change your pants after you log off. It must be stinking wet at the prospect of facing me. So it means that you are going to smoke weed now. If that so is the case, why put limits to your imagination. You might as well fantasize yourself as prime minister himself." UNQUOTE

----- I am wearing pants that is stinking wet ---- blockhead ---- I should change them --- so it means that I am going to smoke weed now ----

Look at your display of jargon here? Pant, stinking wet, prospects of facing you? May I ask you to present a single most of yours that you think has knocked the living daylights of me? I will tell you - you have NONE ! You only whine and are repetitive!

Since: Nov 12

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#35786 Jan 20, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
Saar,
Is this dinner an event under 'Sadbhavna Fraud' of congress ? Anyway, one friendly advise - Josh mein aa kaar hari chaddi patloon kE upar maat pahan lena......to show off that U are Kattu Superman !
Aur Sonia sE bach kaar rahna ....oosey VD haey !
Aur Sardar Ji kou mera hello kahna !
HK
<quoted text>
My dear misogynist friend, don't address me as Sir, I don't believe that I have earned it. Why do you have such a low opinion about women? I am sure Sonia Gandhi can be anything but a slut. I am sure you would agree that she is a decent woman who has earned that place and keeps to herself. With dignity she has managed her cancer and is not vocal about it. In comparison to Mayawati, Sushma Swaraj and Uma Bharti she stands out.

It was not a dinner but a brunch I mentioned. I couldn't convey your "hello" to "him" as I saw this message of yours only today.

If possible, keep abuses for women out of your posts whenever you communicate with me as I can do that too and then we both are degrading women for no fault of theirs. kya bolta?

Since: Nov 12

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#35787 Jan 20, 2013
Dragnet52 wrote:
<quoted text>If you are such a terrifying monster as you claim to be, then you should have faced me in the ID of IMI2000. Why is IMI talking to walls when I'm right here in the forum. I don't respond to anyone directly unless I'm spoken to.
As for the thing about clones, didn't I tell here that IMI2000 is a consummate liar?
Isn't it a fact that you are paranoid about me? Every suspect everyone to be imi? Just treating you with your own medicine. See the point I am making here?

Since: Nov 12

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#35788 Jan 20, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
What was the true reason behind the separation before the fact ?
What were the original intentions that would see peoples seen as equals or was it a power grab ?
There was a book written by one of our senior BJP leader Jaswant Singh called "Jinnah: India, Partition, Independence"

Due to it's contents, he was expelled from the primary membership of the party two days after the release of his book because it had lot of praises for Mohammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan.

In his book, Jaswant Singh has held Jawaharlal Nehru responsible for the partition of India and claimed that Jinnah has been "demonized" in India.
The book also ridiculed another important leader of India during partition named Sardar Vallabhai Patel saying that the first Home Minister played a historic role in unification and consolidation of India amidst serious threats to its unity and integrity.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2...

This book created an uproar as it was written by the minister of the so called Saffron brigade - the people who call themselves pure Hindus and have elements of militancy in them.

In India history cannot be read in black and white as you can do in your country or how western world would do. In India we have to read history in the shades of grey with lot of self thinking and logical input. I have read a very important book by John Keay called India: A History. I invite you to read page number 17 (written in Roman XVII) by clicking on the book itself and flipping through the pages.

http://www.amazon.com/India-A-History-Revised...

It says as

QUOTE
"Histories of India often begin with gripe about the poverty of the available sources. These sources were once thought so inadequate as to make what is certainly one of the world's longest histories also one of its more patchy. Prior to the thirteenth century AD, wrote Professor R.C. Majumdar in the 1950s, we possess no historical text of any kind, much less such a detailed narrative as we possess in the case of Greece, Rome or China. It is further quoted about why thirteenth century AD because that was when northern India, succumbing to Muslim rule, attracted the attention of partisan writers to chronicle the triumphs of Islam. But given a good four thousand years of early pre-Islamic civilization, it followed that for more than 80 percent of attestable Indian history there were no histories."
UNQUOTE

It would be politically incorrect but in my view the partition took place due to the fact that both the "races" were not seen as equals. Their leaders thought different and envisaged different societies for their people. More due to Hindus that their leaders thought of going for a separate nation than live in the inferiority complex forever. Nehru and Patel became the architects of the partition as Nehru himself was aristocratic and he knew it would have been difficult to manage 1/4th part of the nation that was superior while 3/4 th of the inferior so he planned it all out with Patel and used Gandhi wherever he was needed. Jinnah was an unwilling partner, so the book says, but he played along and finally the partition took place. So partly it was the unequal people and leaders and the desire to rule made the partition happened.

Since: Nov 12

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#35789 Jan 20, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
Ek Hindu INDIAN USA se apni Maa ko phone karta hai.
KUMAR: MAA ! mujhe AIDS ho gaya hai.
MAA: Tu wapas mat aana BETA.
KUMAR: kyon MAA
MAA: agar tu aaya to Teri BIWI ko AIDS hoga,
Teri BIWI se tere BHAI ko
Tere BHAI se NOKRANI ko,
NOKRANI se tere PITAJI ko,
Tere PITAJI se teri MAUSI ko,
Teri MAUSI se tere MOUSA ko,
Tere MOUSA se MUJHE,
Muj se hamare DRIVER ko,
Driver se teri Behen ko
Aur Agar teri bahen ko ho gaya to saare GAON ko ho jayega!
Tuje mera vasta
Saare GAON ko bachale BETA.. mat aana...
Good one !

Since: Nov 12

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#35790 Jan 20, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...simple...I'm not an historian ..
number four wrote:
<quoted text>....Thank-you for correcting my ignorance ...
Yes, my conclusion was biased against the Muslims ...as I understood the Mountain range was named for the many Hindu slaves, it claimed ..........In which case ...I really have no idea, as to who could have enslaved such numbers of Hindu if not the conquering Mughals ..
So, you do agree that you are a biased man and do not read historical facts before commenting here.

Since: Nov 12

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#35791 Jan 20, 2013
Chump Change wrote:
<quoted text>
What about those brown Hindus still in your family or extended family (relatives in your parlance)? Hate them as well? Then state it clearly. Or are those family members very special Hindus?
Chal be nachna shru kar chamak chalu!!!
LMAO!
You have often asked me about my family so let me answer you once for all so that I leave nothing for your vivid speculations.

We are a close united family with our Arya Samaji roots. I have mentioned before that, post 1947 and also due to categorization by our English Rulers, Paganism or Sanatan Dharama and practice of Arya Samajis was seen as one and same even though Sanatan dharma had nothing to do with Vedas as Hindus originating from vague pagan rituals and the region that is comprising between the coordinates of 21.7679° N, 78.8718° E (do refer your map to see the Indian borders I am describing) was culture-less, God less, godly people or even noble men. Majority of this region suffered from famines and floods and scores died due to hunger and diseases.

For the sake of harmony, my family and also accepted a "bhepuri" version of Hinduism and called themselves as Hindus as this is how we are categorized in the world. As were were all burning secular, we never were fanatic about religion as deep down in our roots we knew that Murti pooja was nothing but BS so we never got down to going nuts about it as you guys are.

Majority of my family doesn't live in India and are spread predominantly in the western hemisphere. However I do have some close relations in India who are very mush Hindu as you want them to be and I don't hate them as they are liberal and know human values.

You would notice that you or Haji kaji are always abusing woman or are in to profanities all the time as women are not respected in the Hinduism version you follow. You are not alone as India is full of yous. I can assure you that in reality if you degraded women in front of me, I would break your jaw with a suckers punch so that you have to wear a wire for the rest of your life to put your haw together. I am in to Krav Maga shit - if you know what it means!

Since: Nov 12

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#35792 Jan 20, 2013
Chuy,

To my question

Since you cannot quote exact number of participants it is safe to presume that you have no idea as to what is going on ?

You said
number four wrote:
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1)You may presume anything you like ...
You are not able to rationalize your actions but are able to make brand people as "chump change", "very very smart" and "monster" !You have no idea how many people are participating here but are able to feel that many of them are my shadows ?

To my question
Now, since you do affirm that Chump Change has three IDs then do name them please! Also name mine too.

You said
number four wrote:
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2)No..
I presume that you have no idea or taking a fifth here?

To my question

While you are at it, do present some posts from chump change where he has specifically convinced you that I am a Pakistani and a Muslim. It is very important to what you have alleged so it is now time for you to walk your talk.

You answered
number four wrote:
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3)..It was "your" writing ....not anything claimed by "Dragnet52"....
If it was my own writing style and not anything claimed by the chump change that convinced you that I am a Pakistani and have nefarious agenda and am using multiple IDs to congratulate myself then why in the world you wrote the following?
number four wrote:
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As, for your battle with "Dragnet52" ...If I may be frank with you..??...He has everyone convinced that you are a Pakistani working with a nefarious agenda...and, are using multiple I.D.s to congratulate yourself ...
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Can you see what I am pointing at? You are disgruntled and biased and not a rational thinker as portray yourself to be.

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