No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ... Full Story

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35247 Jan 13, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
There was a Christian missionary in India a few years ago who with his sons were set upon by no doubt an opposing religious mob who set fire to their vehicle and burnt them to death.
Other Christian groups have ventured forth into other religious territories and set up camp only to be persecuted and then attacked much like in Indonesia where Christians live in fear of Islamic militants .
When a religious mission is set up either being an orphanage or a school or a medical facility those attending it are marked for persecution and possible death as much as that religion who commenced it.
In Afghanistan the Taliban says that girls are not allowed to be educated so they attack and kill and destroy to get their point across.
Religion is a hindrance for those who want a better life than others around them but dying for their quest should not be tolerated.
In Saudi Arabia foreign religions cannot operate in the open but in the West, Islam says that it has the right to do so ,fully funded by Saudi Arabia.
A)Were not these missionaries in India bribing the poor Indians ,to covert ...that is illegal ..
A1)It is well known we Christians in India prey on the dalit caste ..
A2)The faithful of any religion ...hate to see relatives and loved ones reject the God of their ancestors ..

B)Muslims believe "only" one religion will be eternal salvation ,we are forbidden from proselytizing in their countries ...Nepal or Bhutan ...also forbid "proselytizing."
B1)So missionaries do go to these place to educate and aid the poor and orphaned ......but, they should not try and convert there ..

C)Wahhabis and Taliban ...are bad people ....

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35248 Jan 13, 2013
Dak-original wrote:
<quoted text>
I had noted your painful attempt to reinstate Adam and Eve but the Genome cannot lie! Yes, we are still evolving as per our lifestyles. Have you not noticed that obesity in some countries is in denger of becoming "genetic" imprint? We have vestiges of a tail in coccyx! LOL!
...yes, we have tails and gills ....but, I'm just not sure if there wasn't something very different in homo sapiens , that our earlier kin did "not" possess ....

obesity as a genetic imprint ...what does that portend ..???...that all of our progeny will be fatso's ..???

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35249 Jan 13, 2013
Dak-original wrote:
<quoted text>
On individual level, the US lot's reputation has gone up since the days of 1960s. Then the comparatively rich Americans went everyhere with loud voice and wad of cash. However, you were responding to a mischief post by a muslim, who "has been talking to 10,000 US girls per day"! Nah!!!!
...After WWII ,Americans felt we could remake the planet in our image ....hence our disparaging of other cultures ...

Thank-you "Dak-Original" but, you do not have to shield me from the truth ..I know other cultures blame us for our inaction on climate change ,find fault in our worship of guns and how we imprison our blacks ,and still murder our prisoners ...

the "only" reason our reputation has gone up ....is the economy , everybody loves tourists ....even, if they are Americans ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35250 Jan 13, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
How many?....years ...
...The Dutch have a saying "Predictions are so very difficult, especially of the future.."

...How long have the Russians been trying to pacify Chechnya ...consider that, Before you send your young men into Pakistan ....

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#35251 Jan 13, 2013
steadyfreind wrote:
<quoted text>
someone has cut pasted this from here
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
...That was brilliant !!...Have you ever considered MI5 ...???.."steadyfriend "
Observer

Bronx, NY

#35252 Jan 13, 2013
steadyfreind wrote:
<quoted text>
No, my guess is that your vegetarian dalit ass won't survive d!ld0 balatkar wrapped in barbed wire for more than 5 minutes. So, say .....5 minutes maximum. Aati kya, chamiya chudne ko? Bahut bhakchodi ho gai...ab chudne ke taiyari karr raand meri.
Angel Gabriel must have whispered in your filthy uncouth Muslim ear?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
ROFL!
Keep it coming!!
Observer

Bronx, NY

#35253 Jan 13, 2013
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
Why have you stopped using dragnet id ?
Why have you started using harminder id?
Observer

Bronx, NY

#35259 Jan 13, 2013
steadyfreind wrote:
<quoted text>
GOOOOD. Please keep me posted all the latest about him and wish him my best.
Dragnet ki gaand kitni fatti hei ...zara vistaar mein likhna ! I have missed some action.
Dirty filthy Muslim keep the talk alive between yourself. Teri janam patri main sirf nakyabi likhi hai. Bol kya bolta hai Columba-ITE MCD bhangi.
Jyoti Yadav

Staten Island, NY

#35260 Jan 13, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Modi supporters are very encouraged by this inaction by Rahul, Randi Sonia & Co. His national stature is rising!!! The more inaction on the government, the stronger Modi becomes. He he he he he he
It's sickening to see bastards like Narendra Modi get elected by landslide margins, not despite their communal agendas and ideology of hatred, but precisely BECAUSE of them.

Everything about the present day India reeks of narrow minded hypocrisy. From protests about a designer wearing a dress depicting the national flag, to the major fascinations for renaming cities (Bangalore is the latest victim. Brand name Bangalore is being corrupted to Bengalooru... and Mysore to Mysuru and God-know-what-else to God-knows-what esluu!)

The discriminations based on languages, ethnicity, castes, colour, religion, communal politics, riots and the impunity with which openly violent extremist outfits operate, and the hostility and violence associated with them clearly shows how little India has to show for its much trumpeted claims of being a 'peace-loving, tolerant, democratic' country.

The absence of any notable public outrage against these mindless protesters, communal politics - and the failure of the courts, constitution, public or government to eradicate or inhibit such activities in the least speaks a lot for the nation's conscience - or rather, the lack of one.

Yet children across the country begin each school day with the pledge '.. all Indians are my brothers and sisters..'.
Empty words ringing with hypocrisy - just like the mainstream rhetoric. That's India.
Nordic Indian

France

#35261 Jan 13, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...My joy comes from the fact India has a free press ...look, maybe you're one of those people who lament the fact that "only" white people seem able to form and run competent and functional governments ..........excluding stupid Canada, Western nations are nothing but borrowers ..
Last night, I heard that jarring speech again.

'India is the MOST beautiful country in the world! Our Indian values.. blah blah.. ethics... blah... multicultural, tolerant, blah, blah.. blah'

Balderdash! I wonder if the reason behind such jingoist claims is the fact that a lot of garbage is drilled into a billion brains everyday about so-called Indian 'tolerance'.

It's always fascinated me how almost every Indian I know - man, woman and child - lays claim to such moral high ground purely on the basis of their 'Indian'ness.

I've met people who are completely oblivious to their own narrow-mindedness, and yet speak as if they've inherited the mantle of virtue, hand woven by their noble ancestors.

Patriotism if all fine. But once it begins to distort the truth and diminish the lines between reality and absurdity, then it's time for a re-evaluation.

If there's one thing I can't stand, it is forcing 'patriotism' and 'Indian values' down our throats.

Zealots have poured vitriol on MF Husain, one of India's most celebrated artists - and forced him into exile. They accused the painter of hurting Hindu sentiments by painting Hindu Godesses in the nude. These same bigots welcome Taslima Nasrin, the Bangladeshi writer, with open arms. though she's been accused of pretty much the same.

I remember hordes of nationalists crying foul over a work of art depicting a naked Icarus, of Greek Mythology, perched atop the Ashoka Pillar (adopted as the Indian emblem).

This is the land of the Kama Sutra, and the famous Khajuraho temples known explicit depictions of coitus - even bestiality. Yet, from the social taboos surrounding any mention or discussion of sex, GLBT relationships and public display of affection, you would think that the entire country's been religiously practicing abstinence for centuries (Which, of course, would leave a lot to account for, considering the burgeoning billion plus population!)
Sloganeering mobs forced a movie director Deepa Mehta, to abandon filming one of her movies, and successfully got another one dealing with lesbianism banned.

Shekar Kapur's Bandit Queen was banned as well. India was also perhaps the first country in the world to ban Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses over Muslim outrage.

Extremist, violent outfits like Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal, etc go on a rampage every Valentine's Day.. attacking anything red and heartshaped.

What's even more nauseating is the fact that they attack media outlets, protesting against being labeled ' violent'!

There's a so called 'free media' that revels in the story of the day. While the Indian media is relatively free, the mushrooming of 24 hour news channels have forced them to sensationalize trivial 'issues' and engage in the ratings game.(Ever heard Spiderman say 'With great power comes great responsiblity'? Kids know that stuff!)

There is no real freedom of expression (ask Salman Rushdie, MF Husain, Khushboo etc..) What can you say of a country where a couple can't walk hand in hand in public without the fear of being attacked by a morally outraged, saffron branded fundoo? These self-proclaimed custodians of the Indian culture get on my nerves.

The aspiring superpower that India is, it still has no space for any real, free debate, but generously accommodates vitriolic, firebrand politicians, dangerous provincialism, and language feuds.

Secularism in India means the involvement of the Government in every aspect of the religion, rather than the expected hands off approach. Come elections, and right wing parties polarize the electorate along religious lines, with often violent consequences.
Dak-original

Ashburn, VA

#35262 Jan 13, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Modi supporters are very encouraged by this inaction by Rahul, Randi Sonia & Co. His national stature is rising!!! The more inaction on the government, the stronger Modi becomes. He he he he he he
Modi can NEVER become pm of INDIA even for a DAY as long as advani,nitish,sushma swaraj are alive,get that to your hindu skull of yours? NEXT pm is mulayam singh yadav
Dak-original

Ashburn, VA

#35263 Jan 13, 2013
Jyoti Yadav wrote:
<quoted text>
It's sickening to see bastards like Narendra Modi get elected by landslide margins, not despite their communal agendas and ideology of hatred, but precisely BECAUSE of them.
Everything about the present day India reeks of narrow minded hypocrisy. From protests about a designer wearing a dress depicting the national flag, to the major fascinations for renaming cities (Bangalore is the latest victim. Brand name Bangalore is being corrupted to Bengalooru... and Mysore to Mysuru and God-know-what-else to God-knows-what esluu!)
The discriminations based on languages, ethnicity, castes, colour, religion, communal politics, riots and the impunity with which openly violent extremist outfits operate, and the hostility and violence associated with them clearly shows how little India has to show for its much trumpeted claims of being a 'peace-loving, tolerant, democratic' country.
The absence of any notable public outrage against these mindless protesters, communal politics - and the failure of the courts, constitution, public or government to eradicate or inhibit such activities in the least speaks a lot for the nation's conscience - or rather, the lack of one.
Yet children across the country begin each school day with the pledge '.. all Indians are my brothers and sisters..'.
Empty words ringing with hypocrisy - just like the mainstream rhetoric. That's India.
Fantastic post jyoti !!!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35266 Jan 13, 2013
Comments: MUQ

1. What a Stupid Question?
2. Were Govt. schemes prepared to "help Muslims"?
3. The Elections are near, so Govt. is having some "recollections" of what they promised when they asked Muslims for support in the last elections.
4. The actual figures are less than 10 % of what depicted in this report.
5. And since when any community works to help and uplift another?

Have government schemes failed Muslims?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/

Six years ago, the Sachar Committee report showed that the Muslim community in India suffers from severe deprivations in education, employment, health services, public infrastructure, access to financial services leading to much higher poverty than other religious groups, somewhat like the condition of scheduled castes and tribes. The government responded by setting up a separate ministry for minority affairs, and launching several programs to provide benefits to the Muslims.

How have these programmes fared? And, what is the condition of Muslims in the key areas that the Sachar committee had underlined?

A report authored by Abusaleh Sharif, member secretary of the Sachar committee and the man widely regarded as being the main author of that committee's report, indicates that not much has changed. The report has been released by the US-India Policy Institute of which Sharif is now the chief scholar.

In a unique exercise, Sharif has calculated that providing education to Muslim and SC/ST communities would on its own boost the GDP growth rate up to 12%. At present, Muslims contribute only 11.2% to the country's GDP while dalits and adivasis contribute only 16.5%. This is because these communities are poorly educated and forced to work in traditional and low value creating occupations. In traditional services, the share of Muslims and SC/STs in the workforce is about 18% each while in modern services their respective shares are just 8 and 14%.

Comparing NSSO data of 2004-05 with 2009-10, the report notes that in this period literacy levels of Muslim OBCs improved by 5.9 percentage points in rural areas and 5.3 points in urban areas. In the same period, literacy among dalits improved by 8.5 points in rural areas and 5.1 points in urban areas. Among tribal communities, literacy shot up by 11.3 points in rural areas and 8.6 points in urban areas. As a result, Muslims, who were earlier roughly at the same level as dalits and tribals, are now beginning to lag behind.

At the class 10 level, a similar situation exists. In both rural and urban areas, the number of students clearing class 10 has increased by 13% and 11% for STs and SCs respectively in urban areas, and 10% and 9%, respectively in rural areas. For Muslims, the change is only about 5% to 7% in rural and urban areas.

The share of 17 to 29 years old youths who are in higher education has increased by just 1.6 percentage points for Muslim OBCs over the same period. For other Muslims, it has increased by a minuscule 0.8 points. Compare this with a 9.4 points increase among Hindu upper castes and 5.3 points among Hindu OBCs. The improvement in dalits and tribals are similar to the Muslims.

Analysis of the nature of employment across different types of work shows that Muslims continue to be concentrated in lower paying jobs.

(Contd.)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#35267 Jan 13, 2013
The source of income for almost a quarter of Muslim households is self-employment in non-agricultural occupations, mainly artisanal work. Only 14% of dalits and 6% of tribals earn their living from similar occupations. Another 23% of Muslims households earn by doing agricultural labour. Among dalits and tribals, the shares are 36% for this occupation.

In urban areas, over 45% of Muslims are self employed — more than any other community. They are usually involved in petty trade and various services like repair, etc. In the better paying and more secure salaried jobs, Muslims have the lowest share of all communities.

NSSO data from 2009-10 shows that in urban areas, over 88% of Muslims workers of age 15 years and above are in informal employment, the highest for any community. Muslims make up just over 6% of all government jobs, the lowest share of all communities and social groups.

Government schemes like the MGNREGS meant to provide a cushion for the unemployed too seem to have bypassed the Muslim community as Muslim households made up only 2.3% of those that got work under the scheme.

The report also points out that there is policy confusion about how minority communities are to be targeted for benefits under various schemes. Two sets of "minority concentration districts (MCDs)" have been flagged - one set is of 90 districts having 52% Muslim and 3.3% Christian population while the other set of 121 districts is the target of the prime minister's 15-point programme and has 66% Muslim and 11% Christian population.

Financial inclusion by extending credit facilities to the minority community on a priority basis is one of the big planks of the 15-point program. RBI data shows that in the 121 districts, average per capita advances to Muslims increased from Rs 50,000 in 2008 to over Rs 100,000 in 2011. But in the same districts, advances to Hindus increased from around Rs 230,000 in 2008 to Rs 270,000 by 2011.

The report reviews expenditure by the ministry of minority affairs and shows that while allocation has increased from Rs 500 cr in 2008-09 to Rs 3,135 cr in 2012-13, the actual per capita expenditure was working out to just Rs 230 in 2011-12 because 20% of the funds remained unutilized and also because coverage of the schemes was only about 50% of the total Muslim population.

For the multi-sectoral development programme of the ministry, of the Rs 2,966 cr available in 2011-12, only 44% had been spent. It is only in the case of the scholarship programs that targets are being surpassed.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#35268 Jan 13, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...My joy comes from the fact India has a free press ...
Number four, to describe you rightly - you are someone who wants to be little bit pregnant but are unaware that the term 'little bit pregnant' is an oxymoron.

I saw you and Dak as two modern thinkers who would call spade a spade but while Dak does succeed in coming close to that bracket, you do fall far from the line by miles. Being anti Muslim is fine (and also the need of the hour for some immigrants like you) but you don't have to sound like a bigot.

Western countries allow free expression of ideas and that is why they always do better than those that don’t allow new ideas (India, middle east). The evidence is all around for us to see.

The thing that sets human civilization apart from animals is, human progress and development and for that our best tools are ideas. And the source of these ideas is free people who have the freedom to bring forth new ideas. We progress only by looking at things in new ways, which is what ideas allow us to do. The minimal condition necessary for ideas is the freedom of speech and this is what India lacks in totality.

Akbaruddin gave a speech that made Hindus shit in their pajamas, lungis or nickers and they got busy in getting the fellow locked up. Government was too unhappy to comply as they knew that Hyderabad would have become another Kashmir so what did they do? They made arrangement with Akbaruddin's brother that they would have to go through the facade of arresting Mr Akbaruddin so that ignorant dumb Hindus can take leaks in peace and while modern day Akbar-E-Shehenshah would sit in "A" class police chowky where choicest of Hindu girls from Brahmin families would give him a chuppa. The idea appealed modern day Ghazi and he willfully complied while Hindus rejoiced pumping fist in the air and giving upper fives on each other's chootards.

Unknown to them is not only that freedom of speech and expression has value in itself but it is also instrumental in giving rise to good ideas. Most of the Hindus are not Vedic but followers of "Sanatan Dharma" that is nothing but abhorring practices of Sati, Jauhar, child sacrifice, Kapalic Aghori practices, Coprophagia, anthropophagy, group sex, wife swapping etc so they do not know that the new settlers from their western borders believed in the power of ideas. These Vedic Hindus have been humming a Rig Vedic prayer that roughly translates into “let noble thoughts come to us from all directions.” Unfortunately the new India which is dominated by stupid low IQ Hindus have strangulated by applying controls on free press and instead they are using it to get dumber in process.

It’s literally a war raging in India and her neighborhood. Since this neighborhood is short of ideas, they are forced to resort to weapons. Suicide bombings, terrorism, rioting in the streets. This is only done by people who have no good ideas and are so threatened by the power of ideas that they seek to destroy those who have good ideas - banning Satanic Verses, locking up Arundhati Roy, Akbaruddin lund sucking showy arrest, MF Hussein being chased out until his death, innocent son of a police constable who was forced to give up his nation and reside in neighboring Pakistan and a decent musician was forced to escape to London to avoid being framed for the murder of another hoodlum movie maker.

Look around and see who are the terrorists and suicide bombers and rioters. They don’t have ideas, and perhaps know that they cannot compete and lash out in their fury to show that they do have some power. Terrorism is the weapon of the powerless and the idea-less and that is why you see Dharnas, rasta roko, chakka jaam, Bharat Bandh etc etc.

It is a mystery to me why some apparently smart people, like you, don’t understand the need for the absolute freedom of expression. Don’t you get that that is the source of all progress?
the legend

Delhi, India

#35269 Jan 13, 2013
Nordic Indian wrote:
<quoted text>
Last night, I heard that jarring speech again.
'India is the MOST beautiful country in the world! Our Indian values.. blah blah.. ethics... blah... multicultural, tolerant, blah, blah.. blah'
Balderdash! I wonder if the reason behind such jingoist claims is the fact that a lot of garbage is drilled into a billion brains everyday about so-called Indian 'tolerance'.
It's always fascinated me how almost every Indian I know - man, woman and child - lays claim to such moral high ground purely on the basis of their 'Indian'ness.
I've met people who are completely oblivious to their own narrow-mindedness, and yet speak as if they've inherited the mantle of virtue, hand woven by their noble ancestors.
Patriotism if all fine. But once it begins to distort the truth and diminish the lines between reality and absurdity, then it's time for a re-evaluation.
If there's one thing I can't stand, it is forcing 'patriotism' and 'Indian values' down our throats.
Zealots have poured vitriol on MF Husain, one of India's most celebrated artists - and forced him into exile. They accused the painter of hurting Hindu sentiments by painting Hindu Godesses in the nude. These same bigots welcome Taslima Nasrin, the Bangladeshi writer, with open arms. though she's been accused of pretty much the same.
I remember hordes of nationalists crying foul over a work of art depicting a naked Icarus, of Greek Mythology, perched atop the Ashoka Pillar (adopted as the Indian emblem).
This is the land of the Kama Sutra, and the famous Khajuraho temples known explicit depictions of coitus - even bestiality.
I was taken aback when the tiger owaisi was arrested and ws slapped sedition charge (tho its clear court will exonerate him),
To all those who are constantly abusing
Owaisi as 'Desh Drohi' and 'Gaddar' should first understand the very meaning of it. If he has spoken something against hindus that doesn't mean waging war against the country, if that was the case then hindu leaders like Togadia, Thackery and the likes of them should be the first to be labelled as DESH DROHI'S since their speeches are directly targeted to provoke and instigate muslim killings in the country. Just because hindus are major in numbers doesn't mean that they own INDIA.

If you guys are so much against such hate speeches then start putting your own people behind bars to show the world that you are against all HATE MONGERS in thecountry. Making mockery of muslims and constantly abusing them will lead to nothing instead it will only add fuel to the burning fire to the house which we all livein i.e. INDIA.....And pls don't start saying this country doesn't belong to muslims,since the mughals are migrants and muslim in INDIA came through them, if such things are to be considered then the hindus have no right to stay in india either since ARYANS are also migrants who came to our country and taught hindus to make divisions within the religion to classify who's superior and who's inferior in the society. And muslims in India very well know the meaning of DESH BHAKTI so dont try to teach them since according to hindus the very meaning of Patriotism has become "Loving and Worshipping HINDUISM, what nonsense is this? When the speech target are muslims that personis called the Son of India, similarly when the speech is targeted at hindus, the entire media & people like dragnet,haji start calling muslims DESH DROHI.You can ooze all the venom you like to but the truth prevails and muslim in India will never get to the standards of the likes of you people because we hold the utmost respect and love for INDIA.

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#35270 Jan 13, 2013
Chaddi Saar ,
What is your opinion about art pieces made in US (movie) and Europe (cartoons) and Kattu reaction on them ????
Kyon wee ? Kya bolta.....

HK
Nordic Indian wrote:
<quoted text>
Last night, I heard that jarring speech again.
'India is the MOST beautiful country in the world! Our Indian values.. blah blah.. ethics... blah... multicultural, tolerant, blah, blah.. blah'
Balderdash! I wonder if the reason behind such jingoist claims is the fact that a lot of garbage is drilled into a billion brains everyday about so-called Indian 'tolerance'.
It's always fascinated me how almost every Indian I know - man, woman and child - lays claim to such moral high ground purely on the basis of their 'Indian'ness.
I've met people who are completely oblivious to their own narrow-mindedness, and yet speak as if they've inherited the mantle of virtue, hand woven by their noble ancestors.
Patriotism if all fine. But once it begins to distort the truth and diminish the lines between reality and absurdity, then it's time for a re-evaluation.
If there's one thing I can't stand, it is forcing 'patriotism' and 'Indian values' down our throats.
Zealots have poured vitriol on MF Husain, one of India's most celebrated artists - and forced him into exile. They accused the painter of hurting Hindu sentiments by painting Hindu Godesses in the nude. These same bigots welcome Taslima Nasrin, the Bangladeshi writer, with open arms. though she's been accused of pretty much the same.
I remember hordes of nationalists crying foul over a work of art depicting a naked Icarus, of Greek Mythology, perched atop the Ashoka Pillar (adopted as the Indian emblem).
This is the land of the Kama Sutra, and the famous Khajuraho temples known explicit depictions of coitus - even bestiality. Yet, from the social taboos surrounding any mention or discussion of sex, GLBT relationships and public display of affection, you would think that the entire country's been religiously practicing abstinence for centuries (Which, of course, would leave a lot to account for, considering the burgeoning billion plus population!)
Sloganeering mobs forced a movie director Deepa Mehta, to abandon filming one of her movies, and successfully got another one dealing with lesbianism banned.
Shekar Kapur's Bandit Queen was banned as well. India was also perhaps the first country in the world to ban Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses over Muslim outrage.
Extremist, violent outfits like Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal, etc go on a rampage every Valentine's Day.. attacking anything red and heartshaped.
What's even more nauseating is the fact that they attack media outlets, protesting against being labeled ' violent'!
There's a so called 'free media' that revels in the story of the day. While the Indian media is relatively free, the mushrooming of 24 hour news channels have forced them to sensationalize trivial 'issues' and engage in the ratings game.(Ever heard Spiderman say 'With great power comes great responsiblity'? Kids know that stuff!)
There is no real freedom of expression (ask Salman Rushdie, MF Husain, Khushboo etc..) What can you say of a country where a couple can't walk hand in hand in public without the fear of being attacked by a morally outraged, saffron branded fundoo? These self-proclaimed custodians of the Indian culture get on my nerves.
The aspiring superpower that India is, it still has no space for any real, free debate, but generously accommodates vitriolic, firebrand politicians, dangerous provincialism, and language feuds.
Secularism in India means the involvement of the Government in every aspect of the religion, rather than the expected hands off approach. Come elections, and right wing parties polarize the electorate along religious lines, with often violent consequences.
Sailesh Mehta

Bronx, NY

#35271 Jan 13, 2013
Here is what Ram Jetmalami, India's foremost legal authority has to say about Narender Modi.
The rise and rise of tomorrow’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/analysis/the-r...

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#35274 Jan 13, 2013
I wonder why Christians or Parsis don’t have similar complain ? May be b’cos-
1) They don’t produce children in dozens.
2) They don’t think Quran, Bible, etc. are the only education they need.
3) They don’t think attending Mass will lead to Graduation degree.
It reminds me –
After losing the war for Delhi in 1857one Mughal sibling managed to escape from Brits and landed in a Jaatland village. Villagers took pity and gave him shelter . After few days of phokat shelter Jaats asked him he needa work, earn a living to continue staying in village. The Mirza said- I am a Muslim , Mughal , kattu, Jehadi…..and all I know is fighting ……what job can I do…… Jaat Khaap punch thought for few day and reverted back – go to our fields and whole day drive away birds…..we will give you two square meals taking pity on ur plight.(as scarecrow did the same job without any food even).
Even today you can see their decedents (mostly migrated to Pak during partition ) in Haryana.
So dear Kattus- you have been reduced to Chashmey-baddur (scarecrow ) for a reason and destined to remain so in future , if remain Kattu !
MUQ wrote:
The source of income for almost a quarter of Muslim households is self-employment in non-agricultural occupations, mainly artisanal work. Only 14% of dalits and 6% of tribals earn their living from similar occupations. Another 23% of Muslims households earn by doing agricultural labour. Among dalits and tribals, the shares are 36% for this occupation.
In urban areas, over 45% of Muslims are self employed — more than any other community. They are usually involved in petty trade and various services like repair, etc. In the better paying and more secure salaried jobs, Muslims have the lowest share of all communities.
NSSO data from 2009-10 shows that in urban areas, over 88% of Muslims workers of age 15 years and above are in informal employment, the highest for any community. Muslims make up just over 6% of all government jobs, the lowest share of all communities and social groups.
Government schemes like the MGNREGS meant to provide a cushion for the unemployed too seem to have bypassed the Muslim community as Muslim households made up only 2.3% of those that got work under the scheme.
The report also points out that there is policy confusion about how minority communities are to be targeted for benefits under various schemes. Two sets of "minority concentration districts (MCDs)" have been flagged - one set is of 90 districts having 52% Muslim and 3.3% Christian population while the other set of 121 districts is the target of the prime minister's 15-point programme and has 66% Muslim and 11% Christian population.
Financial inclusion by extending credit facilities to the minority community on a priority basis is one of the big planks of the 15-point program. RBI data shows that in the 121 districts, average per capita advances to Muslims increased from Rs 50,000 in 2008 to over Rs 100,000 in 2011. But in the same districts, advances to Hindus increased from around Rs 230,000 in 2008 to Rs 270,000 by 2011.
The report reviews expenditure by the ministry of minority affairs and shows that while allocation has increased from Rs 500 cr in 2008-09 to Rs 3,135 cr in 2012-13, the actual per capita expenditure was working out to just Rs 230 in 2011-12 because 20% of the funds remained unutilized and also because coverage of the schemes was only about 50% of the total Muslim population.
For the multi-sectoral development programme of the ministry, of the Rs 2,966 cr available in 2011-12, only 44% had been spent. It is only in the case of the scholarship programs that targets are being surpassed.

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I was taken aback when the tiger owaisi was arrested and ws slapped sedition charge (tho its clear court will exonerate him),
To all those who are constantly abusing
Owaisi as 'Desh Drohi' and 'Gaddar' should first understand the very meaning of it. If he has spoken something against hindus that doesn't mean waging war against the country, if that was the case then hindu leaders like Togadia, Thackery and the likes of them should be the first to be labelled as DESH DROHI'S since their speeches are directly targeted to provoke and instigate muslim killings in the country. Just because hindus are major in numbers doesn't mean that they own INDIA.
If you guys are so much against such hate speeches then start putting your own people behind bars to show the world that you are against all HATE MONGERS in thecountry. Making mockery of muslims and constantly abusing them will lead to nothing instead it will only add fuel to the burning fire to the house which we all livein i.e. INDIA.....And pls don't start saying this country doesn't belong to muslims,since the mughals are migrants and muslim in INDIA came through them, if such things are to be considered then the hindus have no right to stay in india either since ARYANS are also migrants who came to our country and taught hindus to make divisions within the religion to classify who's superior and who's inferior in the society. And muslims in India very well know the meaning of DESH BHAKTI so dont try to teach them since according to hindus the very meaning of Patriotism has become "Loving and Worshipping HINDUISM, what nonsense is this? When the speech target are muslims that personis called the Son of India, similarly when the speech is targeted at hindus, the entire media & people like dragnet,haji start calling muslims DESH DROHI.You can ooze all the venom you like to but the truth prevails and muslim in India will never get to the standards of the likes of you people because we hold the utmost respect and love for INDIA.
T a a l l i y y a a a n !(i hope it is not copy pasted but are your true thoughts)

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