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No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54739 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Since: Dec 12

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#34054 Dec 28, 2012
Tony wrote:
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Your comparison is illogical and lacks any sensitivity for the victim who is struggling for her life. The whole country is outraged by this heinous crime. Are you are trying to imply that such a crime would not occur under some fictitious Muslim "rule"?
I know my comparison is illogical....sry for that....
But you must see the post of of DARK ORIGINAL and learn something from it....
Dak-original

Southampton, UK

#34055 Dec 28, 2012
FINELINE wrote:
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As a muslim I feel this behavior is unexceptable. No one has a right to force anyone to their religion. Respect ones religion so they will respect yours.
FINELINE...
What motivated such behaviour in those so called "extremist muslims". Dr Zakir says that there are no extemist muslims but only fundamental muslims and he then also says that all true muslims are fundamental ones.
Chuttard Singh

Mumbai, India

#34056 Dec 28, 2012
Abey gandoo…….U have got a brain or ur khoprdi is filled with Kattu Mulla Sht ? Most expensive piece of property should be in Commercial capital of a country or political capital ? And then what is the name of commercial capital of India ? My location tells you that I am not from Mumbai? Your Chhakkka Father Pondy Master must have taught you that it is St. Xavier Church in Goa or St. Peter in Rome that is the centre of earth and most expensive …..isn’t it ?

You just reply if u have any intention of getting ur sisi married to Harminder ? If yes tell her qualities- Gobar thapna janti haey ? Khana banana janti haey ? Gand marana pasand haey ? That is JAT requirement- Just Admire Them (JAT)!!!!!Address doesn't matter !

When wanna shoot- just shoot , don’t talk (no Baakchodi- from ‘Good Bad & Ugly’)!!!

Voice of India wrote:
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You are someone from interiors of India so you wouldn't know as to what Harminder has said here. Indians like you as such come on these forums - hopping from one country to another - and imagine yourself to be globetrotters. Malcha Marg is India's most expensive address (or among the best) and if Harminder is from there then guys like you should wash his feet and drink the same water as this is how close you would ever get to a rich man on Topix. While you are drinking "harminder footjuice" gargle some down your throat - you need a mouth wash for having a very dirty inside.
Dabang

Ashburn, VA

#34057 Dec 28, 2012
Voice of India wrote:
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Allow a man his corner and place to maneuver. Let him say his mind out. Why are you so agitated? Looks like many people have read this and moved on and you are making a big thing about it. Those are his views and your views are contrary to his - no big deal. In democracy we all agree on one thing - to disagree at all times. Why don't you give your side of success stories, if you have any, of India and counter him with facts. Getting angry shows that he is right and you are pissed like hell. Who gets pissed?
Bhonsdi ke, why does it irk you ? Why are you behaving like a 'bina fees ke wakil' of IMI2OOO ? Or are you eqully 'gandu' as IMI 2000? you seem to be his alter ego. That is why you are advocating him. O yes, you are the same guy who was ridiculing UPites few days back. IMI also hates UPites. You are such a narrow minded chutia.
number four

Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#34058 Dec 28, 2012
Neville Thompson wrote:
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I speak and read Australian
...No such tongue...
number four

Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#34059 Dec 28, 2012
FINELINE wrote:
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As a muslim I feel this behavior is unexceptable. No one has a right to force anyone to their religion. Respect ones religion so they will respect yours.
FINELINE...
...Platitudes..!!...We, all know there is "no" freedom of conscience in the Muslim world ...

ergo...We are well within our rights, to disparage your mighty faith ...Inshallah..

“Kradvanto Viswam Aryam ”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#34060 Dec 28, 2012
lMl2000 wrote:
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Do you know that Bhagat gets underlined on all Google, Microsoft word document or yahoo mail? It means that there was no Bhagat Singh bravado world ever recognized.
Neither he has any Britannica page on him.
It means that like your school, the so called prestigious land mark has no real importance.
However, Britannica does have a page on Lakshmi (Bai) and her name is also respected by Google pages. So don't give me the crap that all Indian names are underlined.
Bhagat Singh, Chandrashekhar azad, Udham Singh are all stories of local hoodlums who had no regards for law and order and your Daddus made them in to heroes.
Though i do not have any desire to say a single word to this ' intellectual stupid ' but i am not controlling myself to ask a question .

" In which category this self declared ' Anglo-muhammadan ' will be kept if his father's name is not found in Britannica ?[ and i am sure it will not be there .]"
number four

Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#34061 Dec 28, 2012
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Like what ?
..The Cuisine..Bollywood..Yoga..Indi an music..The History and the beautiful Temples and Mosques ..She went toe to toe with China..How, this nation remains unified ...boggles my mind ....and, I think Indian girls are really pretty ..
number four

Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#34062 Dec 28, 2012
Tyr BIoodaxe wrote:
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Aren't you on a wrong forum, Mate? On a Pakistani forum Punjabi, Pashto, Sindhi, Saraiki, Urdu and Balochi languages are also spoken besides English. What do you mean by Australian ? English ? How about Aboriginal languages like Nyulnyulan, Worrorran, Bunuban, Jarrakan ?
..I concur ...Unless they post to "Neville Thompson" in Sanskrit ..........but, I like learning new words ...too bad, from this thread I've only learnt "lund" and "gand" ..
number four

Since: May 12

Salt Lake City, UT

#34063 Dec 28, 2012
Crystabella wrote:
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"Hidden Imam"?....is he going to wear a burqa?
...You are really clever..."Crystabella "..!!!

Since: Aug 12

Wakefield, U.K.

#34067 Dec 28, 2012
Tony wrote:
Some over here are "intellectual imams" others are just post "pseudo intellectual" crap. Both are easily identifiable.
Nice...nice... not thrilling but still nice to see you adjusting straight in to a deeply rooted conversation with lot of ease as if these all are your AA buddies. Don't you have any shame, Dragnet? This is why imi2000 has dissed your education and has trashed it brutally. You dumb fcuk mochi ki aulaad, what do you think of these posters here? You think that they are going to bite the bait that you are not dragnet? You shameless bastard, everyone here knows what a sorry sod you are! Every time you are taunted, a new ID springs up and your shit starts all over again. Deedat, Ghost of Kalki, Ghost, Dragnet52, Pskak, Dabang, Tony, Chuttard Singh, Maulana Sahab and ...... s h i t never ends. Madarchod, ab so ja jaake subah aake bhonkiyo.

Since: Aug 12

Wakefield, U.K.

#34068 Dec 28, 2012
yaudheya wrote:
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Though i do not have any desire to say a single word to this ' intellectual stupid ' but i am not controlling myself to ask a question .
" In which category this self declared ' Anglo-muhammadan ' will be kept if his father's name is not found in Britannica ?[ and i am sure it will not be there .]"
Tell me, how do you apply bindiya on your forehead daily? Do you look in to a mirror or your mother puts it for you? Aaj kitne lundon ko chuppa kaga ke aaya hei, randuwe maharaj?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#34069 Dec 28, 2012
Voice of India wrote:
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How did your Granpa buy zameen in Malcha Marg from a Tehsildaar? I thought it was NDMC deal in diplomatic area? It is not a "lal dora" that you need patwaris in here?
Did you make a special anti nuclear house or so? Why did it take 10 years specially when you are stinking rich? It must have been inconvenient for you as your 10 school years were spent in a house under construction.
By the way Al Kauser was not a restaurant but a Dhaba. People ate here in their own cars while kababs were made in a kiosk meant for a "pyau" ! It is now defunct since 1998.
So, did you walk to Bangla Sahib by foot? that too in 20 minutes? Don't joke ! It is at least 3 Kms until Ram Manohar Lohia golchakkar and then about 1 Km further to your school St. Columbas. Isn't this Gurdwara dead across your school? So you went first by foot to Gurdwara and then came back and then went by some transport back to school?
You must be a tough guy physically Race Walking faster than world record holder Kanaykin.
Do tell us about your army days. Did you do NDA or direct entry to OTS (SSC)Madras or passed CDS and went to IMA Dehradun? You must be a royalty in the Army since your Grandpa was a Major General. Are you still army? Or a civilian now?
I notice they have a few Italian restaurants there.

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#34070 Dec 28, 2012
Abbey "steadyfreind" bhosadiwaaley, merey naam ki spelling ko thora sa badal ke aa gaya ?
steadyfreind wrote:
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Tell me, how do you apply bindiya on your forehead daily? Do you look in to a mirror or your mother puts it for you? Aaj kitne lundon ko chuppa kaga ke aaya hei, randuwe maharaj?
Crystabella

London, UK

#34071 Dec 28, 2012
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...You are really clever..."Crystabella "..!!!
LOL, not as clever as you!:-)
Dabang

Ashburn, VA

#34072 Dec 28, 2012
steadyfreind wrote:
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Tell me, how do you apply bindiya on your forehead daily? Do you look in to a mirror or your mother puts it for you? Aaj kitne lundon ko chuppa kaga ke aaya hei, randuwe maharaj?
Bhonsdi ke, madarchod chaddichor, sabki id churane wale, kabhi Dak, kabhi Sally to kabhi steadyfriend ban ke apni maa chudwata hai. Teri bahan chod dunga sale agar tumne jyada gandmasti ki.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#34073 Dec 28, 2012
IM2000 wrote:
MUQ Bhai,

Salaam !

2 Questions.

a) Why in the world do you think simply quoting a piece of news from an Indian newspaper about some Chinese development in Railways might piss off Indians or belittle India.

b) Apparently Busrape victim has been sent to Singapore to one of the best hospitals at the Government's expense to recuperate. Real Doctors never transport patients in multi organ failure and sepsis like this as risk of taking up transport must be lower than advantage offered (like advanced ventilation strategy in ARDS), these machines are available in AIIMS (Delhi's advanced modern hospital) and there is no need for her to go to Singapore. It is apparent this girl is dying and govt is trying to prevent another protest in Delhi.

If you would have your way, what punishments would you reserve for each of the participants in the busrape. Please do so from your heart without mincing any words. I haven't seen anyone so far who doesn't want brutal punishments for these guys but then again, you might come up with something totally new.
Ans.

IM 2000 Bhai Sb.

01. By Quoting news about High Speed train link in China was to tell our Indian friends that we “do not stop boasting, how our Indian Railway is Asia’s biggest”…. And then we see that China has made so much progress in a short time.

It is good once a while to see the real position of our country. A little humility can do us a lot of good.

02. As regards the Criminals responsible for the Bus Rape, their punishment should be according to the law of land. More heinous crimes are committed almost daily in India but no one cares about them.

This case, because of its brutality has somehow got the attention of local people and they made it into a national issue.

In Islamic system, each of the criminal would receive death punishment, some (who were already married) might be stoned to death.

But I think, it is too early to talk about Islamic Punishment in Secular Democratic India. Let us see how our Secular Democratic laws are able to treat this malaise.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#34074 Dec 28, 2012
VOI wrote:
01. I also meant that host nations are all Muslims. I agree with you that more than 70% Hindus exist in the middles eastern country for their meal ticket.[India's major manpower export is still to the gulf nations and they all happen to be Muslim (countries)]

02. It is true that Indians do not get respected in middle eastern countries but it is not because they are Hindus but because they are poor and relatively uneducated and in these countries they are known to be "ghulams" who served their masters in the capacity of slaves since forever. Skin color and body structure makes their lives more difficult but the good part is that Indians are good in absorbing their insults and turn around the tables on the aggressor by telling them "thank you sir" every time they get insulted! Despite of that an Indian is more comfortable in middle east than in West as over their it is a total social boycott of theirs. The Americans and Europeans look through them as if they do not exist. In Middle east at least they get slapped around once a while and feel good that at least they get noticed. It is sad but true.

I wish some day the oil runs out in this region or slips down to the level of India's under belly and these guys come looking for jobs to us.
Ans.

01. Yes these Non Muslims are not only here to get their “meal ticket”. They are earning wholesome salaries and they are living in peace.

02. I was speaking about the Media perception in India and they way they project as if “Only Muslims” are going to these ME countries and getting rich and using that money against India.

03. How Indians in general are treated in ME and Europe and Americas is a different topic.

We should think ourselves how we treat people from Tibet, Nepal, Bangladesh and Myanmar? Do we treat them as “our equals”.

Such type of selective behaviour and superiority complex is present in every nation of the world.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#34075 Dec 28, 2012
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum,(THE SEALED NECTAR, Biography of the Noble Prophet [pbuh], by SAFI UL RAHMAN al-Mubarakpuri
Jamia Salafia - India Translated by Issam Diab Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers and Distributors, Part- 51
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_t...

The Prophet on the Battlefield

The Quraishites, mortified at the escape of the Prophet [pbuh] along with his devoted companions, and jealous of his growing power in Madinah, kept a stringent watch over the Muslims left behind and persecuted them in every possible way. They also initiated clandestine contacts with ‘Abdullah bin Uabi bin Salul, chief of Madinese polytheists, and president designate of the tribes ‘Aws and Khazraj before the Prophet’s emigration. They sent him a strongly-worded ultimatum ordering him to fight or expel the Prophet, otherwise they would launch a widespread military campaign that would exterminate his people and proscribe his women.[Narrated by Abu Da'ud]

His pride wounded and kingship no longer his,‘Abdullah bin Uabi bin Salul, a priori responded positively to his Quraishite co-polytheists. He mobilized his supporters to counteract the Muslims. The Prophet [pbuh] on hearing about this unholy alliance, summoned ‘Abdullah and admonished him to be more sensible and thoughtful and cautioned his men against being snared in malicious tricks.[Narrated by Abu Da'ud] The men, on grounds of cowardice, or reason, gave up the idea.

Their chief, however, seemingly complied, but at heart, he remained a wicked unpredictable accomplice with Quraish and the envious Jews. Skirmishes and provocations started to pave the way for a major confrontation between the Muslims and polytheists. Sa‘d bin Mu‘adh, an outstanding Helper, announced his intention to observe ‘Umrah (lesser pilgrimage) and headed for Makkah. There Omaiya bin Khalaf provided tutelage for him to observe the ritual circumambulation. Abu Jahl, an archenemy of Islam saw him in the Sacred Sanctuary and threatened he would have killed him if he had not been in the company of Omaiya. Sa‘d, fearlessly and defiantly, challenged him to committing any folly at the risk of cutting their caravans off.[Bukhari 2/563]

Provocative actions continued and Quraish sent the Muslims a note threatening to put them to death in their own homeland. Those were not mere words, for the Prophet [pbuh] received information from reliable sources attesting to real intrigues and plots being hatched by the enemies of Islam. Precautionary measures were taken and a state of alertness was called for, including the positioning of security guards around the house of the Prophet [pbuh] and strategic junctures.

‘Aishah [R] reported that Allah’s Messenger [pbuh] lay down on bed during one night on his arrival in Madinah and said: Were there a pious person from amongst my Companions who should keep a watch for me during the night? She (‘Aishah [R]) said: We were in this state when we heard the clanging noise of arms. He (the Prophet [pbuh]) said: Who is it? He said: This is Sa‘d bin Abi Waqqas. Allah’s Messenger [pbuh] said to him: What brings you here? Thereupon he said: I harboured fear (lest any harm should come to) Allah’s Messenger [pbuh], so I came to serve as your sentinel. Allah’s Messenger [pbuh] invoked blessings upon him and then he slept.[Muslim 2/280; Bukhari 1/404]

This state of close vigilance continued ceaselessly until the Words of Allah were revealed saying:

"Allah will protect you from mankind." [Al-Qur'an 5:67]

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#34076 Dec 28, 2012
MUQ wrote:
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum,(THE SEALED NECTAR, Biography of the Noble Prophet [pbuh], by SAFI UL RAHMAN al-Mubarakpuri
Jamia Salafia - India Translated by Issam Diab Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers and Distributors, Part- 51
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_t...
The Prophet on the Battlefield
The Quraishites, mortified at the escape of the Prophet [pbuh] along with his devoted companions, and jealous of his growing power in Madinah, kept a stringent watch over the Muslims left behind and persecuted them in every possible way. They also initiated clandestine contacts with ‘Abdullah bin Uabi bin Salul, chief of Madinese polytheists, and president designate of the tribes ‘Aws and Khazraj before the Prophet’s emigration. They sent him a strongly-worded ultimatum ordering him to fight or expel the Prophet, otherwise they would launch a widespread military campaign that would exterminate his people and proscribe his women.[Narrated by Abu Da'ud]
His pride wounded and kingship no longer his,‘Abdullah bin Uabi bin Salul, a priori responded positively to his Quraishite co-polytheists. He mobilized his supporters to counteract the Muslims. The Prophet [pbuh] on hearing about this unholy alliance, summoned ‘Abdullah and admonished him to be more sensible and thoughtful and cautioned his men against being snared in malicious tricks.[Narrated by Abu Da'ud] The men, on grounds of cowardice, or reason, gave up the idea.
Their chief, however, seemingly complied, but at heart, he remained a wicked unpredictable accomplice with Quraish and the envious Jews. Skirmishes and provocations started to pave the way for a major confrontation between the Muslims and polytheists. Sa‘d bin Mu‘adh, an outstanding Helper, announced his intention to observe ‘Umrah (lesser pilgrimage) and headed for Makkah. There Omaiya bin Khalaf provided tutelage for him to observe the ritual circumambulation. Abu Jahl, an archenemy of Islam saw him in the Sacred Sanctuary and threatened he would have killed him if he had not been in the company of Omaiya. Sa‘d, fearlessly and defiantly, challenged him to committing any folly at the risk of cutting their caravans off.[Bukhari 2/563]
Provocative actions continued and Quraish sent the Muslims a note threatening to put them to death in their own homeland. Those were not mere words, for the Prophet [pbuh] received information from reliable sources attesting to real intrigues and plots being hatched by the enemies of Islam. Precautionary measures were taken and a state of alertness was called for, including the positioning of security guards around the house of the Prophet [pbuh] and strategic junctures.
‘Aishah [R] reported that Allah’s Messenger [pbuh] lay down on bed during one night on his arrival in Madinah and said: Were there a pious person from amongst my Companions who should keep a watch for me during the night? She (‘Aishah [R]) said: We were in this state when we heard the clanging noise of arms. He (the Prophet [pbuh]) said: Who is it? He said: This is Sa‘d bin Abi Waqqas. Allah’s Messenger [pbuh] said to him: What brings you here? Thereupon he said: I harboured fear (lest any harm should come to) Allah’s Messenger [pbuh], so I came to serve as your sentinel. Allah’s Messenger [pbuh] invoked blessings upon him and then he slept.[Muslim 2/280; Bukhari 1/404]
This state of close vigilance continued ceaselessly until the Words of Allah were revealed saying:
"Allah will protect you from mankind." [Al-Qur'an 5:67]
Hello MUQ those words from Allah,how were they heard ?

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