Atheism and cowardice

Atheism and cowardice

There are 12663 comments on the Conservapedia story from Nov 18, 2011, titled Atheism and cowardice. In it, Conservapedia reports that:

Have any of the New Atheists toured [[Islam]]ic countries giving lectures in which they condemn [[Allah]], [[Muhammad]], Islam, or Muslims? Have any of them debated Muslims in Islamic countries? Have any of them been interviewed on Al Jazeera? Have any of them written entire books in which they condemn Allah, Muhammad, Islam, or Muslims? Have they ... (more)

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Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6658 Jan 12, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Having difficulty marshaling your thoughts, into some sort of coherent blather?
..So, I took your post and purposely misrepresented it.....it's okay, everybody does it ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6659 Jan 12, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>How about the Scientologists, the Shakers, the Whirling Dervishes, the Thuggees, the holy rollers? Variations of madness, skillfully wreaking havoc while successfully dividing the community. Here's to a religion free future
...okay, Herein you attack "all" religions ....I appreciate that...

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6660 Jan 12, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>
number four wrote: Men tend towards the violent and depraved .........So, you seem to have some familiarity with the Good Book ....is it any wonder man incites such wrath in God ..??
R.P. wrote: Man incites wrath in god? How convenient, for the spell casters, and how morally weak of the god. But since it was man who created the gods, in their own images, it is exactly as it should be. The god does and should reflect the very worst of who man is. The better to scare into compliance those who the god was created to control.
number four wrote: As for your comparison betwixt Islam of today and Christianity of yesterday ..........you are implying Islam can reform ....I'm unsure ...Christianity has at times gone astray , but we can return to our founder and His teaching ....if Islam returns to their founder ....well, you get more of the same conquest and subjugation
R.P. wrote: No it was not meant to say that Islam was moving towards reform, but rather that Christainity was forced by secular laws to abandon it's torturous conquest and subjugation tactics. and had not these laws been enacted, it would be impossible to know by their actions, which religion was killing who.
number four wrote: B.T.W. I'm a straight man
R.P. wrote: I'm not.
.....Secular laws reformed Christianity ....you mean , Atheistic Marxism ...????...a return to Christian morality ..."reformed" the religious laws ...

R.P..can suck it.....oops, let me rephrase ....R.P. should be forbidden from sucking it...

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6662 Jan 12, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>

R.P. wrote: Man incites wrath in god? How convenient, for the spell casters, and how morally weak of the god. But since it was man who created the gods, in their own images, it is exactly as it should be. The god does and should reflect the very worst of who man is. The better to scare into compliance those who the god was created to control.
...R.P. is mistaken as "even" the spell casters fall short of pleasing the Lord ....

You seem to assume Government considers religion a boon ...are you not arguing that religion is a bane to civil society....so exactly who is "being scared into compliance ?"..The destructive and intolerant godbot....???

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#6663 Jan 12, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...okay, Herein you attack "all" religions ....I appreciate that...
Again, had you specified any other religion in those posts, it would have garnered response. Though I will happily tell you there are three main religions (along with their thousands of variants), which I can't wait to see the planet free of.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#6664 Jan 12, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>.....Secular laws reformed Christianity ....you mean , Atheistic Marxism ...????...a return to Christian morality ..."reformed" the religious laws ...
R.P..can suck it.....oops, let me rephrase ....R.P. should be forbidden from sucking it...
I mean that for you to follow biblical dictates, you will earn yourself a prison sentence. The bible has been trumped.
Do you have issues with people of the other sexes?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#6665 Jan 12, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...R.P. is mistaken as "even" the spell casters fall short of pleasing the Lord ....
You seem to assume Government considers religion a boon ...are you not arguing that religion is a bane to civil society....so exactly who is "being scared into compliance ?"..The destructive and intolerant godbot....???
If there were a god, that might be possible but truth is, it is the spell casters who use the god, and it is the tither who the god is used against.

Yes, government does consider a easily led populace to be a boon, and the religitard has been trained to never rock the boat, and they do happpily render unto Ceasar ...

Since: Mar 11

United States

#6666 Jan 12, 2013
Yes ancient china did extremely well for itself and progressed far faster than the bible thumpers. They were a peaceful enlightened people who only went to war when invaded. Certainly these non religious non god believing people made marvels and advances that we still admire today. They had great philosophers who didn't need to get their message across by shouting about hellfire and some sky wizard.

Christian leaders fought desperately hard to keep slavery going in the US where the more secular people fought hard against it.
number four wrote:
<quoted text>China did do exceeding well ...but, was is a moral and just society ..??
Ancient Chinese history was wiped away by one of her many dynasties ...."literally erased" ...So, you know nothing of their disease ,war,famine and killing , nobody does ..
What ideology do you credit for the ending of slavery ...hint, it begins with a "C"
B.T.W. I am a straight man ....

Since: Mar 11

United States

#6667 Jan 12, 2013
I forgot to mention how pro slavery advocates often quoted the bible am Jesus to defend owning slaves.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6668 Jan 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I forgot to mention how pro slavery advocates often quoted the bible am Jesus to defend owning slaves.
...You are right ...slave owners and their supporters ,did quote the Bible.......but, anti-slavery and its cousin civil-rights ...were first expounded from the pulpits ....

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6669 Jan 13, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Again, had you specified any other religion in those posts, it would have garnered response. Though I will happily tell you there are three main religions (along with their thousands of variants), which I can't wait to see the planet free of.
...and, this is because ...???...You are a hostile and intolerant beer drinking Texan ..???..."The South will rise again !"..........and, all that ..???

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#6670 Jan 13, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...You are right ...slave owners and their supporters ,did quote the Bible.......but, anti-slavery and its cousin civil-rights ...were first expounded from the pulpits ....
Proven creationist liar with no proof of god, lying about god to everyone he talks to.

“Freedom, NOT islam.”

Since: Feb 11

Birmingham UK

#6672 Jan 13, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>...well, "Jules in the U.K." ....many a Muslim on this forum ,have asserted ...Islam has brought them peace and purpose ...
as for the madness part , Well, denying the existence of God is ....."madness"...
and in the other vein , self-delusion , the acceptance of an invisible guardian ...also.."madness"..
LOL. Point taken. Actually, Im beginning to change my view on this particular issue. This morning, I watched a program on the BBC that asked the question 'should ALL religions accept evolution?'
There were plenty of muslims who were very opposed to this idea, suggesting that it was against the quran, but there were also some very 'intelligent' muslims who seem to have got the right balance.
They were still muslims, still practicing their faith and still happy with their faith. But they were able to express, very articulately that evolution is quite correct and deffinately did happen/has happened/is happening. Without feeling that the muslim faith was undermined and without feeling that their individual faith was in any way 'weakened', they accepted that all faiths, including islam, must question things more. Yes, we are all here on earth and somehow, creation began, and flourished. But this doesnt deny either the existence of a God, or the process of evolution.
I was very impressed, because the attitude was 'live and let live, be and let be.' Now, if all faiths - islam and Christianity included adopted that attitude....an attitude where science and religion could not simply co-exist, but could walk happily, hand in hand.....then what a wonderful world it would be.
Without any grudge, I am happy to respect any anlightened muslims and indeed, any enlightened member of any faith group. Its the hardline fundamentalists - those who would go to the extreme of calling anyone who disagree's a blasphemer - that I despise.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#6673 Jan 13, 2013
Jules in the UK wrote:
<quoted text>LOL. Point taken. Actually, Im beginning to change my view on this particular issue. This morning, I watched a program on the BBC that asked the question 'should ALL religions accept evolution?'
There were plenty of muslims who were very opposed to this idea, suggesting that it was against the quran, but there were also some very 'intelligent' muslims who seem to have got the right balance.
They were still muslims, still practicing their faith and still happy with their faith. But they were able to express, very articulately that evolution is quite correct and deffinately did happen/has happened/is happening. Without feeling that the muslim faith was undermined and without feeling that their individual faith was in any way 'weakened', they accepted that all faiths, including islam, must question things more. Yes, we are all here on earth and somehow, creation began, and flourished. But this doesnt deny either the existence of a God, or the process of evolution.
I was very impressed, because the attitude was 'live and let live, be and let be.' Now, if all faiths - islam and Christianity included adopted that attitude....an attitude where science and religion could not simply co-exist, but could walk happily, hand in hand.....then what a wonderful world it would be.
Without any grudge, I am happy to respect any anlightened muslims and indeed, any enlightened member of any faith group. Its the hardline fundamentalists - those who would go to the extreme of calling anyone who disagree's a blasphemer - that I despise.
Didn't the pope accept evolution also?

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6674 Jan 13, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>I mean that for you to follow biblical dictates, you will earn yourself a prison sentence. The bible has been trumped.
Do you have issues with people of the other sexes?
..You mean the same Bible that gives us the maxim "Do unto others ,as you would have them do unto you "...and, the Ten Commandments ...

The very harsh penalties meted out in the Bible ...were merely to expound the the deadliness of sin ...

You do the very same ...(allow me to elucidate)..when ,your children were on the verge of becoming sexually active ...Were you "honest" and told them " There is only a 11% chance of becoming pregnant during unprotected sex , and S.T.D.s aren't transmitted "every time" ..."

Or, Were you "Use a condom ,"every time".........."ever y time !!"..

I should not belittle homosexuals ....thank-you for chastising on that ...

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6675 Jan 13, 2013
Jules in the UK wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. Point taken. Actually, Im beginning to change my view on this particular issue. This morning, I watched a program on the BBC that asked the question 'should ALL religions accept evolution?'
There were plenty of muslims who were very opposed to this idea, suggesting that it was against the quran, but there were also some very 'intelligent' muslims who seem to have got the right balance.
They were still muslims, still practicing their faith and still happy with their faith. But they were able to express, very articulately that evolution is quite correct and deffinately did happen/has happened/is happening. Without feeling that the muslim faith was undermined and without feeling that their individual faith was in any way 'weakened', they accepted that all faiths, including islam, must question things more. Yes, we are all here on earth and somehow, creation began, and flourished. But this doesnt deny either the existence of a God, or the process of evolution.
I was very impressed, because the attitude was 'live and let live, be and let be.' Now, if all faiths - islam and Christianity included adopted that attitude....an attitude where science and religion could not simply co-exist, but could walk happily, hand in hand.....then what a wonderful world it would be.
Without any grudge, I am happy to respect any anlightened muslims and indeed, any enlightened member of any faith group. Its the hardline fundamentalists - those who would go to the extreme of calling anyone who disagree's a blasphemer - that I despise.
I found nothing wrong with this post ......(except)...We're in a culture war ..and, if you're a secularist ...I hope my side buys more politicians than your side ...

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6676 Jan 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Proven creationist liar with no proof of god, lying about god to everyone he talks to.
.."-Skeptic-"....... "just say no .....to the devil ."

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6677 Jan 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes ancient china did extremely well for itself and progressed far faster than the bible thumpers. They were a peaceful enlightened people who only went to war when invaded. Certainly these non religious non god believing people made marvels and advances that we still admire today. They had great philosophers who didn't need to get their message across by shouting about hellfire and some sky wizard.
Christian leaders fought desperately hard to keep slavery going in the US where the more secular people fought hard against it.
<quoted text>
....again, your take on Feudal China is uncorroborated ..........and, your take on recent American history ,also flawed .....until ,recently (past 70 yrs)...there were no secular minded people ,in this country ...

(do you just write ,whatever just pops into your pretty little head ..???)

And, you probably should know ....I like girls, cause I'm straight ....

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#6678 Jan 13, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>If there were a god, that might be possible but truth is, it is the spell casters who use the god, and it is the tither who the god is used against.
Yes, government does consider a easily led populace to be a boon, and the religitard has been trained to never rock the boat, and they do happpily render unto Ceasar ...
..yet, It is the religitard ....who is happily rocking the boat ...

so much for that "control the masses" theory ...eh.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#6679 Jan 13, 2013
Prove my info on china is incorrect. There were no secular minded people in America until 70 years ago? Your IQ is sinking like a stone, again.

Again you call a man pretty? Thi is why I have to remind ladyboy lickers like you that I am a straight man. If you closet hiding, she-male sucking, Ted Haggard wannabes would stop drooling over my blacksnake for two minutes I wouldn't need to remind you spunk spittoons.
number four wrote:
<quoted text>....again, your take on Feudal China is uncorroborated ..........and, your take on recent American history ,also flawed .....until ,recently (past 70 yrs)...there were no secular minded people ,in this country ...
(do you just write ,whatever just pops into your pretty little head ..???)
And, you probably should know ....I like girls, cause I'm straight ....

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