The USA in Bible Prophecy.

The USA in Bible Prophecy.

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“LOVE, FEAR , RESPECT THE LORD!”

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#1 May 17, 2007
The USA is mentioned in Revelation chapters 17 and 18. She is depicted as the harlot named MYSTERY BABYLON. Her churches are depicted as SPIRITUAL BABYLON. This also includes other western nations that have committed fornication with her.

Mystery BABYLON is the richest and strongest nation of the end times. She is a nation of commerse. She is materialistic and full of lewdness and vain conceit. The word MYSTERY indicates that this cannot be literal BABYLON. But the end day superpower. The United States of America.

NKJV Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast [which was] full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name [was] written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Rev 17:18 "And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth." The USA.

(NKJV) Revelation 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury." 4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

Notice verse 4, God is telling his people to come out of her. In other words, God's people are in her already. The church system of the end times. American materialistic Christianity. This is spiritual BABYLON.

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#2 May 17, 2007
REV 18:5 "For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6 "Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 7 "In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart,'I sit [as] queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.' 8 "Therefore her plagues will come in one day -- death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong [is] the Lord God who judges her. 9 " The kings of the earth who committed fornication and lived luxuriously with her will weep and lament for her, when they see the smoke of her burning, 10 "standing at a distance for fear of her torment, saying,'Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! For in one hour your judgment has come.' 11 "And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore: 12 "merchandise of gold and silver, precious stones and pearls, fine linen and purple, silk and scarlet, every kind of citron wood, every kind of object of ivory, every kind of object of most precious wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 "and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men. 14 "The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you, and you shall find them no more at all. 15 "The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 "and saying,'Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17 'For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.' Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 "and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying,'What [is] like this great city?' 19 "They threw dust on their heads and cried out, weeping and wailing, and saying,'Alas, alas, that great city, in which all who had ships on the sea became rich by her wealth! For in one hour she is made desolate.' 20 "Rejoice over her, O heaven, and [you] holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged you on her!" 21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw [it] into the sea, saying, "Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore. 22 "The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore. 23 "The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived. 24 "And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth."

“LOVE, FEAR , RESPECT THE LORD!”

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#3 May 17, 2007
The USA is mentioned in Revelation chapters 17 and 18. She is depicted as the harlot named MYSTERY BABYLON. Her churches are depicted as SPIRITUAL BABYLON. This also includes other western nations that have committed fornication with her.

Mystery BABYLON is the richest and strongest nation of the end times. She is a nation of commerse. She is materialistic and full of lewdness and vain conceit. The word MYSTERY indicates that this cannot be literal BABYLON. But the end day superpower. The United States of America.

NKJV Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast [which was] full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name [was] written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Rev 17:18 "And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth." The USA.

(NKJV) Revelation 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury." 4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.

Notice verse 4, God is telling his people to come out of her. In other words, God's people are in her already. The church system of the end times. American materialistic Christianity. This is spiritual BABYLON.
Taqiyya Tariq

Chicago, IL

#4 May 17, 2007
Melton,
Smart people have been trying to figure this out for a long time. It's a great leap that you would be able to do so in this mickey-mouse venue (Hamas TV not withstanding). Rev 17:18 might just as well be Jerusalem, or another - a city not a country. Et cetera...

Give it a rest bro. You're way over the line, and it shows. Stick with what you know.

Best kind regards,
Tariq

“LOVE, FEAR , RESPECT THE LORD!”

Since: Feb 07

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#5 May 17, 2007
Taqiyya Tariq wrote:
Melton,
Smart people have been trying to figure this out for a long time. It's a great leap that you would be able to do so in this mickey-mouse venue (Hamas TV not withstanding). Rev 17:18 might just as well be Jerusalem, or another - a city not a country. Et cetera...
Give it a rest bro. You're way over the line, and it shows. Stick with what you know.
Best kind regards,
Tariq
The Bible is clear that MYSTERY BABYLON will be the richest, strongest nation of the world in the last days. The USA is the only nation in history that meets the qualification. This is self evident. I have studied Divinity. I am not speeking blindly.
Taqiyya Tariq

Chicago, IL

#6 May 18, 2007
Melton wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible is clear that MYSTERY BABYLON will be the richest, strongest nation of the world in the last days. The USA is the only nation in history that meets the qualification. This is self evident. I have studied Divinity. I am not speeking blindly.
:-0
Sorry Melton, but lots of students of divinity (some with lesser egos) come to different conclusions. You might be right, and you might be wrong. Here are some equally valid theories:

Who is the "great harlot" and Babylon the Great?

Some see the Chinese GDP supassing the US by 2026:
(via New Economist) EIU has this forecast, showing China overtake US in PPP terms in total GDP by 2026 already (equality around 2020)
http://sun-bin.blogspot.com/2005/12/when-will...
Almost 100 Chinese cities each house more than one million people. In The Americas, 45 cities can claim Millionenstadt status.

World's Tallest Skyscrapers: Top Ten

1. Taipei 101, Taipei, Taiwan
2. Petronas Tower 1, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
3. Petronas Tower 2, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
4. Sears Tower, Chicago
5. Jin Mao Building, Shanghai
6. Two International Finance Centre, Hong Kong
7. CITIC Plaza, Guangzhou, China
8. Shun Hing Square, Shenzhen, China
9. Empire State Building, New York
10. Central Plaza, Hong Kong
Upon its completion in 2008 the Burj Dubai will likely become the tallest building in the world.

Could be Jerusalem, or Rome, or:

"It is a symbol that stands for all the ungodly religious-political-social-eco nomic systems that humans have created. As John might put it in his letters, Babylon is simply "the world" (1 John 2:15)."
http://www.wcg.org/lit/prophecy/babylon.htm

Pardon me for the dissenting opinions, but there are many. It's fun to explore them though!!:-)
Zoompad

Reading, UK

#7 May 18, 2007
Melton wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible is clear that MYSTERY BABYLON will be the richest, strongest nation of the world in the last days. The USA is the only nation in history that meets the qualification. This is self evident. I have studied Divinity. I am not speeking blindly.
I believe you.
Zoompad

Reading, UK

#8 May 18, 2007
Blair covering up paedophile scandal?

While British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under criminal suspicion in the "honors-for-cash" scandal that has rocked his Labor government, we have been told that there is an even more explosive scandal that Blair, up to now, has managed to hide behind the draconian British policy of issuing "D-Notices," government orders that prohibit the British media from reporting on certain "national security" cases.

In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and pedophiles run by Britain's National Criminal Intelligence Service, code named Operation Ore, resulted in 7,250 suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone. Some 1850 people were criminally charged in the case and there were 1451 convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed "under caution" by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair's government. However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labor government pedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal (including young boys from the Casa Pia orphanage in Portugal).

Tony Blair: stifling investigations of pedophiles in his Labor government.

In the United States, Operation Ore's counterpart was Operation Avalanche. However, U.S. authorities only charged 100 people out of 35,000 investigated. The international pedophile investigation began when Dallas police and the US Postal Inspection Service raided the offices of Landslide Productions of Fort Worth, Texas and confiscated records on thousands of people around the world who were child pornography customers of the firm. Landslide's halcyon days as a Fort Worth-based international online marketplace of kiddie porn was during the term of Texas Governor George W. Bush.

WMR has learned that the Bush administration, like that of Blair, is rife with pedophiles in top positions. The pedophile network also extends to the U.S. defense industry, particularly some of the companies that have been involved in the sexual abuse of minors at overt and covert U.S. prisons in Abu Ghraib, Iraq; Guantanamo, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Thailand, and now, at three prisons in Ethiopia.

Source: Wayne Madsen
Mr Giblets

India

#9 May 18, 2007
Melton wrote:
The USA is mentioned in Revelation chapters 17 and 18. She is depicted as the harlot named MYSTERY BABYLON. Her churches are depicted as SPIRITUAL BABYLON. This also includes other western nations that have committed fornication with her.
Mystery BABYLON is the richest and strongest nation of the end times. She is a nation of commerse. She is materialistic and full of lewdness and vain conceit. The word MYSTERY indicates that this cannot be literal BABYLON. But the end day superpower. The United States of America.
NKJV Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast [which was] full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name [was] written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:18 "And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth." The USA.
(NKJV) Revelation 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury." 4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
Notice verse 4, God is telling his people to come out of her. In other words, God's people are in her already. The church system of the end times. American materialistic Christianity. This is spiritual BABYLON.
last time this story came up Babylon was Rome. I suppose this silly nonsense can be interpreted any way you like! How about this --

Babylon is Babylon! that is Iraq, and Saddam was the Great Whore or the beast or whatever, and America is the Archangel who defeated the Beast and destroyed Babylon! After all, Babylon was exactly where Iraq is now.
Mr Giblets

India

#10 May 18, 2007
how about this :--

Mecca is Babylon, and the Moslems are the beast of the Apocalypse, and Mohamed the Antichrist?
justthinking

Birmingham, UK

#11 May 18, 2007
JUST THINKING:The only book the usa is in is the one of places not to visit.

Since: May 07

i am the decider

#12 May 18, 2007
Melton wrote:
The USA is mentioned in Revelation chapters 17 and 18. She is depicted as the harlot named MYSTERY BABYLON. Her churches are depicted as SPIRITUAL BABYLON. This also includes other western nations that have committed fornication with her.
Mystery BABYLON is the richest and strongest nation of the end times. She is a nation of commerse. She is materialistic and full of lewdness and vain conceit. The word MYSTERY indicates that this cannot be literal BABYLON. But the end day superpower. The United States of America.
NKJV Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast [which was] full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name [was] written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:18 "And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth." The USA.
(NKJV) Revelation 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3 "For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury." 4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
Notice verse 4, God is telling his people to come out of her. In other words, God's people are in her already. The church system of the end times. American materialistic Christianity. This is spiritual BABYLON.
that's crazy how you said PRISON.maybe this has something to do with the coming police state for us all

Since: May 07

i am the decider

#13 May 18, 2007
Mr Giblets wrote:
how about this :--
Mecca is Babylon, and the Moslems are the beast of the Apocalypse, and Mohamed the Antichrist?
muslims aren't greedy rich materialistic and the most powerful

Since: May 07

i am the decider

#14 May 18, 2007
Taqiyya Tariq wrote:
<quoted text>
:-0
Sorry Melton, but lots of students of divinity (some with lesser egos) come to different conclusions. You might be right, and you might be wrong. Here are some equally valid theories:
Who is the "great harlot" and Babylon the Great?
Some see the Chinese GDP supassing the US by 2026:
(via New Economist) EIU has this forecast, showing China overtake US in PPP terms in total GDP by 2026 already (equality around 2020)
http://sun-bin.blogspot.com/2005/12/when-will...
Almost 100 Chinese cities each house more than one million people. In The Americas, 45 cities can claim Millionenstadt status.
World's Tallest Skyscrapers: Top Ten
1. Taipei 101, Taipei, Taiwan
2. Petronas Tower 1, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
3. Petronas Tower 2, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
4. Sears Tower, Chicago
5. Jin Mao Building, Shanghai
6. Two International Finance Centre, Hong Kong
7. CITIC Plaza, Guangzhou, China
8. Shun Hing Square, Shenzhen, China
9. Empire State Building, New York
10. Central Plaza, Hong Kong
Upon its completion in 2008 the Burj Dubai will likely become the tallest building in the world.
Could be Jerusalem, or Rome, or:
"It is a symbol that stands for all the ungodly religious-political-social-eco nomic systems that humans have created. As John might put it in his letters, Babylon is simply "the world" (1 John 2:15)."
http://www.wcg.org/lit/prophecy/babylon.htm
Pardon me for the dissenting opinions, but there are many. It's fun to explore them though!!:-)
actually america is 10 times richer than china

Since: Jan 07

Prague, Czech Republic

#15 May 18, 2007
Zoompad wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe you.
yes, Melton is a very nice example that Christians who follow Bible can exist. It&#347; sad that many Christians here dont like him because he is so uncompromising and sharp to himself...
Zoompad

Reading, UK

#16 May 18, 2007
The San Francisco fault!
justthinking

Birmingham, UK

#17 May 18, 2007
just thinking:All muslims lie.The qaran says this.die.

Since: May 07

i am the decider

#18 May 18, 2007
Lethe wrote:
<quoted text>
yes, Melton is a very nice example that Christians who follow Bible can exist. It&#347; sad that many Christians here dont like him because he is so uncompromising and sharp to himself...
that's because most of them are fascist bigots who have eggs for brains

Since: May 07

i am the decider

#19 May 18, 2007
yeah i said it!eggs for brains

lol

Since: May 07

i am the decider

#20 May 18, 2007
couldn't you just imagine cracking grant's head open to reveal that all this time it has been filled with eggs

lmao

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