Islam and Science:Road to Renewal

Islam and Science:Road to Renewal

There are 314 comments on the Free Republic story from Jan 29, 2013, titled Islam and Science:Road to Renewal. In it, Free Republic reports that:

THE sleep has been long and deep. In 2005 Harvard University produced more scientific papers than 17 Arabic-speaking countries combined.

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DEV DADA

UK

#170 Feb 15, 2013
Dost,,,,,sabse bada science to ISLAM hai,,,,
DEV DADA

UK

#171 Feb 15, 2013
Hai Trisha,,,,,,
Kya aap hindu forum KA TRISHA hoo ,,,,,

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#172 Feb 15, 2013
Muslims only prove my posts to be true.

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#173 Feb 15, 2013
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
did you actually watch the whole of you tube you Blind Koala!
I'm sorry, but my BS meter, highly tuned after many years of science, already started beeping at its loudest within the first few minutes.
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
there is an article where it says mohamadan theology at the end, it states no where in the Koran there is humans,it states that the 1st humans are Prophets like the rest of our prophets! does not mention humans!
And how exactly is this a rebuttal to what I wrote? If you're so upset, better be upset at your fellow muslims who deny evolution!
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
it also states that the christians at the time had an influence on the mindset of muslims!
this theology was from a Muslim Scholar which Darwin nicked, fuking read you blind shit!
the Quaran always stated that the world was Oval!
And why do you believe your interpretation is correct? It seems this muslim scientist believes quite differently...
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
you don't get that in the Bible or the Torah!
Why would I care? The Ancient Greeks already knew the earth was round, so no surprise if the koran was a bit more correct than the bible or torah.
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
you get the quotes "Four corner's of the world"
which states the world was flat
But the Quaran never stated this!
READ YOU ILLITERATE SHIT!
Unlike you, I'm not in the habit to twist words such that they fit my worldview. The koran is a load of gibberish which requires a major and highly questionable interpretation to fit with science.
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't wana read and look at the proof's, its fine with me, I've met ignoramuses like you,no point educating you wankers,no matter how much proof I give to you wankers you are not going to acknowledge it!
Claiming something is so doesn't make it so. As a scientist I demand evidence, not wordplay.

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#174 Feb 15, 2013
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
I'm a Muslim who strongly believes in evolution but NOT in blind random mutations and chance, random mutation, natural selection and chance alone CANNOT make such a wonderful tree of life.
Well, there you go, you just dismissed evolution. Your claim to "believe" in evolution is a lie as one of its main elements is natural selection. You are also obviously someone who does not understand "chance", thinking everything has the same "chance" like when you throw a dice.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#175 Feb 15, 2013
IGNORAMUSES LIKE WILL ALWAYS REMAIN IGNORAMUSES LIKE!

WHY DO I CALL YOU SPECIES THE NEANDERTHALS OF NATURE!

THIS IS CALLED EVOLUTION!

Since: Feb 13

Williams Lake, Canada

#176 Feb 15, 2013
The Bengal Tiger wrote:
IGNORAMUSES LIKE WILL ALWAYS REMAIN IGNORAMUSES LIKE!
WHY DO I CALL YOU SPECIES THE NEANDERTHALS OF NATURE!
THIS IS CALLED EVOLUTION!
Neanderthals were quite an advanced species for their time.

They possessed larger bodies and brains than our own species, and even practiced ritual burial, produced advanced tools, and even had a language.

In fact, Neadnerthals interbred with Homo sapiens so much that 1-4% of the DNA of non-African modern humans are directly Neanderthallic, so my friend, you, I, and even Marco are all Neanderthals to some extent.

Fun science fact of the day.
EXChristian Now Muslim

Fort Worth, TX

#177 Feb 16, 2013
Ex Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
Neanderthals were quite an advanced species for their time.
They possessed larger bodies and brains than our own species, and even practiced ritual burial, produced advanced tools, and even had a language.
In fact, Neadnerthals interbred with Homo sapiens so much that 1-4% of the DNA of non-African modern humans are directly Neanderthallic, so my friend, you, I, and even Marco are all Neanderthals to some extent.
Fun science fact of the day.
Crap, coz you chose a wrong religion.
I embraced Islam for many good reason, and the world is finding the Truth everyday.
A Religion for White Racists
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/chri...
"Christian Identity" is the name of a religious movement uniting many of the white supremacist groups in the United States. Identity's teachers promote racism and sometimes violence. Their roots are deeply embedded in movements such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis. They consider themselves true Israel and view the Jews as half-devils and arch enemies. They believe all but the white race are inferior creations. Identity's religious views are bizarre and occultic, and their view of history is often informed by conspiracy theories. Identity's use of the name "Christian" to promote racism and violence is blasphemous. Jesus Christ as redeemer of all races is God's supreme answer to Identity's outrageous claims.
The headline read "Separatist Surrenders in Idaho." The story was about Randy Weaver, a man indicted for selling two sawed-off shotguns to undercover federal agents. During the FBI's attempt to force Weaver to leave his Idaho home and return to court, three people were killed: a federal agent and Weaver's wife and son. When the standoff was over, 15 handguns, shotguns, and rifles were collected from his cabin.[1] Randy Weaver is a member of a religious movement called "Christian Identity." This "Christian" wing of the larger white supremacist movement is composed of adherents who variously give allegiance to the burning cross of the Ku Klux Klan and the sun sign -- the twisted swastika -- of the Neo-Nazis.
The movement, also called "Israel Identity," has become the uniting force among many white supremacist groups. Included in most religious teaching produced by its leaders are racist statements that echo the statements of other white supremacists. The most moderate groups publish hate literature; the more radical groups turn to violence, including murder. Among those attracted to Identity in recent years are racist and violent young "skinheads" -- some of whom were a part of the crowd of three hundred people who chanted racial slurs at federal marshals attempting to capture Weaver.
Although Identity groups are small in number and diverse, their penchant for social agitation attracts widespread media attention. The recent discovery that racist groups in the United States are supplying both literature and organizational help to racist groups in Germany is of concern to the whole Western world. One article by the Associated Press states that "violent acts perpetrated by far-right German extremists rose from 270 in 1990 to 1,483 last year, mostly attacks on foreigners."[2] The article goes on to say that "police investigating KKK activities in Germany raided some 30 buildings in May."[3]

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#178 Feb 16, 2013
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
Crap, coz you chose a wrong religion.
I embraced Islam for many good reason, and the world is finding the Truth everyday.
A Religion for White Racists
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/chri...
I strongly recommend you read everything Ex-Muslim wrote on this thread.

After that, you may ponder whether attaching the label "christian" to him makes any sense.
EXChristian Now Muslim

Fort Worth, TX

#179 Feb 16, 2013
Faith wrote:
"THE sleep has been long and deep. In 2005 Harvard University produced more scientific papers than 17 Arabic-speaking countries combined. The world’s 1.6 billion Muslims have produced only two Nobel laureates in chemistry and physics. Both moved to the West: the only living one, the chemist Ahmed Hassan Zewail, is at the California Institute of Technology. By contrast Jews, outnumbered 100 to one by Muslims, have won 79. The 57 countries in the Organisation of the Islamic Conference spend a puny 0.81% of GDP on research and development, about a third of the world average. America, which has the world’s biggest science budget, spends 2.9%; Israel lavishes 4.4%."
Science is unislamic.
All the eminent scientists believed in God and good moral ethics.
It is more important to be a good human being than being a good scientist. Ask any scientist.

More and more Americans, Jews and Christians are accepting the true religion of the Universe, Islam.
Pope Benedict may convert to Islam also.
List of American Muslims, Take a look at the growing list of Americans accepting Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American...

Thanks

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#180 Feb 16, 2013
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
All the eminent scientists believed in God and good moral ethics.
So you are saying that the members of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA are not eminent scientists?
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file...
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
It is more important to be a good human being than being a good scientist. Ask any scientist.
Unfortunately, following a religion does not make you a good human being.
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
More and more Americans, Jews and Christians are accepting the true religion of the Universe, Islam.
Pope Benedict may convert to Islam also.
He may, but that doesn't mean that much. The Appeal to Popularity is a really bad argument. After all, communism still has hundreds of millions of followers (if not over a billion). And christianity is quite popular, too.
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
List of American Muslims, Take a look at the growing list of Americans accepting Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American...
Thanks
Ehm...that list contains a lot of people who were already muslim, contains a few criminals, too (yep, better be proud), and a lot of muslims that would not be accepted as muslims by the vast majority of muslims. Ever seen Iman, David Bowie's wife, naked? No? Odd, those pictures are available everywhere. She has no problem with it (her dad does, though). I don't know any muslim who thinks that's OK to do as a muslim woman.

And how about those Nation of Islam members? And why is Fareed Zakaria (who claims not to be religious) on that list? Why Lotfi Zadeh? It seems he is only on there because his father was supposedly muslim.
Clark

Karachi, Pakistan

#181 Feb 16, 2013
Major Concepts of Today's Proven Science was conveyed in Holy Script long before ...
Jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#182 Feb 17, 2013
TTPeE wrote:
<quoted text>
We have suicide bombers driving / flying around the world !!
a
SUICIDE SINNERS!!!!!!!
Jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#183 Feb 17, 2013
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
All the eminent scientists believed in God and good moral ethics.
It is more important to be a good human being than being a good scientist. Ask any scientist.
More and more Americans, Jews and Christians are accepting the true religion of the Universe, Islam.
Pope Benedict may convert to Islam also.
List of American Muslims, Take a look at the growing list of Americans accepting Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American...
Thanks
75% OF U.S. MUSLIM CONVERTS LEAVE ISLAM WITHIN 3 YEARS:
Jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#184 Feb 17, 2013
one

Castelnuovo Don Bosco, Italy

#186 Feb 17, 2013
science proved koran wrong

flat earth
sunset in a pond
dawn frm 2 horns
how about marrying a 6 yrs old child? that's unacceptable!
EXChristian Now Muslim

Fort Worth, TX

#187 Feb 17, 2013
prasad wrote:
<quoted text>chritianity is first hand religion and came from the mind of paul who goes against jesus sayings. it is the religions of saints.and atlast paul is the founder of chrtianity and it should be called paulanity.
Thank God Jesus was born much before America was born otherwise he would be very disgusted and moved to Pakistan and embraced Islam.
Which bible should I read was my big problem?
Look at how the various factions of Christanity hate each other.

It is important for all of us to first become good human beings before we learn Science.
Islam has given me self-respect and peace of mind. I am thankful to God that I am a Muslim and I want to bring better understanding in the world.
PATUSA

Carmel, ME

#188 Feb 17, 2013
EXChristian Now Muslim wrote:
<quoted text>
Crap, coz you chose a wrong religion.
I embraced Islam for many good reason, and the world is finding the Truth everyday.
A Religion for White Racists
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/chri...
"Christian Identity" is the name of a religious movement uniting many of the white supremacist groups in the United States. Identity's teachers promote racism and sometimes violence. Their roots are deeply embedded in movements such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis. They consider themselves true Israel and view the Jews as half-devils and arch enemies. They believe all but the white race are inferior creations. Identity's religious views are bizarre and occultic, and their view of history is often informed by conspiracy theories. Identity's use of the name "Christian" to promote racism and violence is blasphemous. Jesus Christ as redeemer of all races is God's supreme answer to Identity's outrageous claims.
The headline read "Separatist Surrenders in Idaho." The story was about Randy Weaver, a man indicted for selling two sawed-off shotguns to undercover federal agents. During the FBI's attempt to force Weaver to leave his Idaho home and return to court, three people were killed: a federal agent and Weaver's wife and son. When the standoff was over, 15 handguns, shotguns, and rifles were collected from his cabin.[1] Randy Weaver is a member of a religious movement called "Christian Identity." This "Christian" wing of the larger white supremacist movement is composed of adherents who variously give allegiance to the burning cross of the Ku Klux Klan and the sun sign -- the twisted swastika -- of the Neo-Nazis.
The movement, also called "Israel Identity," has become the uniting force among many white supremacist groups. Included in most religious teaching produced by its leaders are racist statements that echo the statements of other white supremacists. The most moderate groups publish hate literature; the more radical groups turn to violence, including murder. Among those attracted to Identity in recent years are racist and violent young "skinheads" -- some of whom were a part of the crowd of three hundred people who chanted racial slurs at federal marshals attempting to capture Weaver.
Although Identity groups are small in number and diverse, their penchant for social agitation attracts widespread media attention. The recent discovery that racist groups in the United States are supplying both literature and organizational help to racist groups in Germany is of concern to the whole Western world. One article by the Associated Press states that "violent acts perpetrated by far-right German extremists rose from 270 in 1990 to 1,483 last year, mostly attacks on foreigners."[2] The article goes on to say that "police investigating KKK activities in Germany raided some 30 buildings in May."[3]
With those types of thoughts, you were never a Christian. In all likely-hood, you were grooming yourself to be an Islamist racist and bigot. This path will only lead you to becoming a religious terrorist.
EXChristian Now Muslim

Fort Worth, TX

#189 Feb 17, 2013
one wrote:
science proved koran wrong
flat earth
sunset in a pond
dawn frm 2 horns
how about marrying a 6 yrs old child? that's unacceptable!
That is all mighty poor lies about Islam !!!!!!!!
Hatemongers evil propoganda against Islam.
mICHEAL

Karachi, Pakistan

#191 Feb 17, 2013
Sun with its Solar System also moving on a designated path and that's Quran Revealed this 1400 Years before...Science just proof it now ..

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