Islam and Science:Road to Renewal

Islam and Science:Road to Renewal

There are 314 comments on the Free Republic story from Jan 29, 2013, titled Islam and Science:Road to Renewal. In it, Free Republic reports that:

THE sleep has been long and deep. In 2005 Harvard University produced more scientific papers than 17 Arabic-speaking countries combined.

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Since: Oct 06

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#86 Feb 4, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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alhamdulillah. good news. when when and where was it proved?
You do not keep up on current events.

Go back to grade school.

Since: Apr 12

Martinez, CA

#87 Feb 5, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
It is perhaps relevant to note that he was educated outside Pakistan, and so were his father and grandfather.
It is perhaps also relevant to note that he doesn't go around saying he is a muslim. In fact, I'd go as far as stating that he may well NOT be a muslim.
Possible. Muslims can be fine doctors, but the choice of Mark as his first name sort of indicates his or his parent's choice to set a distance from things muslim.
Khan

Wichita, KS

#88 Feb 5, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
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It is perhaps relevant to note that he was educated outside Pakistan, and so were his father and grandfather.
It is perhaps also relevant to note that he doesn't go around saying he is a muslim. In fact, I'd go as far as stating that he may well NOT be a muslim.
I see that you cannot appreciate Muslim genes and chromosmes. It is not your fault.
Science and Technology is not the property of the White tribes. Given the same playing conditions, the Muslims can compete with any country of the world. That is a very important point for you to understand.

Due to poor US intelligence about WOMDs in Iraq, about 600,000 innocent Iraqis were massacred to death by the Anglo-American terrorists.
Dr. Humayun does not have to go around saying that he is a Muslim, and I undestand that he should not.
There are so many scientists and engineers who have received highest academic achievments in the US and are serving very important roles. Let us not be so racist about this.
Khan

Wichita, KS

#89 Feb 5, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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Possible. Muslims can be fine doctors, but the choice of Mark as his first name sort of indicates his or his parent's choice to set a distance from things muslim.
So many Muslims have taken an American first name for convenience.
It does not mean they have violated any religous rules.
The Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christanity and Islam have the same religous history.

The Muslims have always revered and respected Moses and Jesus as the Messaengers sent by God. Ibrahim, Musa, Yakub, etc are common names.
The Muslims take great pride in their religion, even if they change their first names. Muslims are about 9 million in this country today and most of them are law abiding citizens and have received good education.
Khan

Wichita, KS

#90 Feb 5, 2013
Irzath wrote:
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see that's mentality of yours.
its doesnt matter to you lands of others .No value for us? ha. atleast that proves invasion and destroying.
Good response ! It is the engrained hate they have against the Muslims that prevents them from giving any respect or appreciation to the Muslims.

I wonder what they will feel after watching this great video.

Check out this site worth reading about what ALLAH TALLA revealed in QURAN http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/index.php

Since: Apr 12

Martinez, CA

#91 Feb 5, 2013
Khan wrote:
So many Muslims have taken an American first name for convenience.
It does not mean they have violated any religous rules.
The Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christanity and Islam have the same religous history.
The Muslims have always revered and respected Moses and Jesus as the Messaengers sent by God. Ibrahim, Musa, Yakub, etc are common names.
The Muslims take great pride in their religion, even if they change their first names. Muslims are about 9 million in this country today and most of them are law abiding citizens and have received good education.
Abrahamic religions - it is the deviations that make all the difference. How can Islam and Christianity be "same history" when Islam came and change the main doctrines of christianity?

I don't think there are 9 million muslims in America (muslim organizations have exaggerated the number for political purposes). Surely majority of muslims in America are law abiding citizens, and I am good friend with some... but that applies to any group and it isn't a good measure of "good".

Since: Apr 12

Martinez, CA

#92 Feb 5, 2013
Khan wrote:
I see that you cannot appreciate Muslim genes and chromosmes. It is not your fault.
Science and Technology is not the property of the White tribes. Given the same playing conditions, the Muslims can compete with any country of the world. That is a very important point for you to understand.
Due to poor US intelligence about WOMDs in Iraq, about 600,000 innocent Iraqis were massacred to death by the Anglo-American terrorists.
Dr. Humayun does not have to go around saying that he is a Muslim, and I undestand that he should not.
There are so many scientists and engineers who have received highest academic achievments in the US and are serving very important roles. Let us not be so racist about this.
To bring out "genes and chromosomes" is probably a misrepresentation of the issue.

"600,000 innocent Iraqis were massacred to death by the Anglo-American terrorists"? Who exactly are the Anglo-American terrorists and whre did you get the number?

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#93 Feb 5, 2013
Khan wrote:
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I see that you cannot appreciate Muslim genes and chromosmes. It is not your fault.
Where's your evidence he is muslim?
Khan wrote:
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Science and Technology is not the property of the White tribes. Given the same playing conditions, the Muslims can compete with any country of the world. That is a very important point for you to understand.
It is my personal experience that the more religious the student, the less likely he is to succeed in science. He may finish his studies, but as a scientist he *must* question what he has learned. And that doesn't fit well with being very religious.
Khan wrote:
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Due to poor US intelligence about WOMDs in Iraq, about 600,000 innocent Iraqis were massacred to death by the Anglo-American terrorists.
Actually, the vast majority were killed by your sunni friends. Which were then killed by the Americans, and that gets you all upset. After all, only muslims are allowed to kill other muslims (see Sudan, Mali, Syria, etc).
Khan wrote:
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Dr. Humayun does not have to go around saying that he is a Muslim, and I undestand that he should not.
"Mark". Quite the muslim name, no?
Khan wrote:
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There are so many scientists and engineers who have received highest academic achievments in the US and are serving very important roles. Let us not be so racist about this.
I'm being a realist.

“Mad as Hell”

Since: Sep 12

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#94 Feb 5, 2013
Khan wrote:
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So many Muslims have taken an American first name for convenience.
It does not mean they have violated any religous rules.
The Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christanity and Islam have the same religous history.
The Muslims have always revered and respected Moses and Jesus as the Messaengers sent by God. Ibrahim, Musa, Yakub, etc are common names.
The Muslims take great pride in their religion, even if they change their first names. Muslims are about 9 million in this country today and most of them are law abiding citizens and have received good education.
This is true, with confusion between Hindus and Muslims rife in this forum, about two religions that couldn't be more different, unlike the Abrahamic religions which have more things in common than their differences.

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#95 Feb 5, 2013
Khan wrote:
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Good response ! It is the engrained hate they have against the Muslims that prevents them from giving any respect or appreciation to the Muslims.
I wonder what they will feel after watching this great video.
Check out this site worth reading about what ALLAH TALLA revealed in QURAN http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/index.php
Listen, when you want to talk about muslim achievements in science, it might be smart to stay faaaaaaar away from Harun Yahya. Remember, he claims science is wrong (oh, and it's right, too, but only if he can make the koran fit to what science says).
Khan

Wichita, KS

#96 Feb 5, 2013
FONTAINE wrote:
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What makes you think Christians are afraid of Muslims? We have been kicking Muslims in the butt since the 8th. century.
And as for errors in the Bible, just take a look at the inconsistent and plagiarized, mis-reconstruction, mess the prophet made of the Bible and Torah.
You are vainly attempting to post your Islamic propaganda to people who know better.
The Muslims have defeated the colonialists and sent them back to their cold and dreary country about 60 years ago from Afghanistan. They have defeated the Soviets, and now as the world can see the Americans are ready to leave Afghanistan after 11 years of pain and misery there.

Does this say whose butt is being kicked?

Muslims are fearless people and they are ready to punish any country who hates them
Khan

Wichita, KS

#98 Feb 5, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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Abrahamic religions - it is the deviations that make all the difference. How can Islam and Christianity be "same history" when Islam came and change the main doctrines of christianity?
I don't think there are 9 million muslims in America (muslim organizations have exaggerated the number for political purposes). Surely majority of muslims in America are law abiding citizens, and I am good friend with some... but that applies to any group and it isn't a good measure of "good".
The basic difference between Islam and Christanity is that the Musims believe that Jesus was not the son of God.
When Juda prepared for the painful crucification of Jesus on the cross, he looked up into the sjy and said "Elahi".
That Elahi is the Muslim God.
Jesus never said that he is the son of God. There is no record that he ever said that.
The Jews also believe in the Unity of God.

Before 1967, all the Holy places in Jerusalem were guarded and protected there. Not a single Bible was ever burnt there.
However under the Israeli supervision, Bibles are burnt every now and then there.

Chrsitanity is not respected as a pious religion in America where pornography, sex, drug and gun violence is so widespread, where the Divorce rate is more than 60%, etc etc.
Thank God Jesus was not an American. He would never have appreciated this America, where the $ is Almighty God.

The good old Christians believed that sex should not be enjoyed in daytime. Just look at the Christian Americans now !

I know the number of Muslims living in America was about 6 million about 6 years ago. However, according to a CNN Report, many Americans, Blacks and White women are embracing Islam at a rate of a million per year. Check the growing number of Black Muslims in PA. In a Mosque in Georgia, many abused white women are coming every week asking about how to convert to Islam.

Khan

Wichita, KS

#99 Feb 6, 2013
prasad wrote:
<quoted text>chritianity is first hand religion and came from the mind of paul who goes against jesus sayings. it is the religions of saints.and atlast paul is the founder of chrtianity and it should be called paulanity.
The original Bible that God gave to Jesus was destroyed by the Jews. Paul wrote the Bible about 200 years after Jesus left the world. Then 4 versions of Bible were created.

The Holy Quran is the most authentic message of God given to our Beloved Prophet Mohammad SA for the whole Humanity, and it is preserved in its orignality and totality since then.

Please read the Quran's English translation with an open mind and heart and try to understand it. You will feel your spiritual wealth increasing as you read.

“Mad as Hell”

Since: Sep 12

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#100 Feb 6, 2013
Khan wrote:
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Due to poor US intelligence about WOMDs in Iraq, about 600,000 innocent Iraqis were massacred to death by the Anglo-American terrorists.
The figure could be as high as 3 million as the USA waged a low level nuclear war in the Gulf with as much as 30 tonnes of depleted uranium used and left lying around.
Talking about WOMDs, the yanks themselves were the eventual source and cause of this Arabic holocaust.
http://www.onweb.org/features/new/gulfwar/gul...

“Mad as Hell”

Since: Sep 12

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#101 Feb 6, 2013
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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Possible. Muslims can be fine doctors, but the choice of Mark as his first name sort of indicates his or his parent's choice to set a distance from things muslim.
This is hilarious.
Do you really think the apostles were originally named Peter Paul and John.
desi daru

Delhi, India

#102 Feb 6, 2013
hitch ....kya chudai faila rakhi h......islam & science ....nashe m ho kya ....hitch
Khan

Wichita, KS

#103 Feb 6, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
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Listen, when you want to talk about muslim achievements in science, it might be smart to stay faaaaaaar away from Harun Yahya. Remember, he claims science is wrong (oh, and it's right, too, but only if he can make the koran fit to what science says).
The religion of Islam emphasizes a great deal about acqyuiring education. Education is a wealth, which nobody can steal from you as the Muslims elders explain to the Muslim youth.
Thousands of parents from the poor Muslim countries sent their kids to acquire higher education in America, sending the high Tution fees and suffering financial difficulties.

Most Muslim countries were colonized and invaded by the European invaders who were not interested in providing their subjects with good education and hence they suffered academically.

Pakistan was able to produce one Nobel Prize winner, Dr. Abdul Salam.
Many other great scientists from Pakistan like Dr. Saleem uz Zaman Siddiqui, Dr. Ahmed Mohiuddin, who conducted extensive Medical research in Tropical diseases reached International fame.

America should pack up and leave from all the war torn areas that it has created, and stop the Divide and Rule policy between the Shia and Sunnis, and instead of war mongering and bigotry, open some good schools so that the world becomes a peaceful and civilized place.
Khan

Wichita, KS

#104 Feb 6, 2013
animals against islam wrote:
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They are the Devils children.
Where is the majority of child and adult pornography manufactured;
"Made in the USA".
The batteries on 787 Boeing Aircraft failed in Japan. All 787 's are grounded.

Now they will make 787 which will say "Batteries not included"
Just a joke.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#105 Feb 6, 2013
Khan wrote:
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I see that you cannot appreciate Muslim genes and chromosmes. It is not your fault.
"According to the BBC, this Pakistani, Muslim-inspired inbreeding is thought to explain the probability that a British Pakistani family is more than 13 times as likely to have children with recessive genetic disorders. While Pakistanis are responsible for three percent of the births in the UK , they account for 33% of children with genetic birth defects.

The risk of what are called autosomal recessive disorders such as cystic fibrosis and spinal muscular atrophy is 18 times higher and the risk of death due to malformations is 10 times higher.

Other negative consequences of inbreeding include a 100 percent increase in the risk of stillbirths and a 50% increase in the possibility that a child will die during labor.

Lowered intellectual capacity is another devastating consequence of Muslim marriage patterns. According to Sennels, research shows that children of consanguinous marriages lose 10-16 points off their IQ and that social abilities develop much slower in inbred babies.

The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, the official demarcation for being classified as retarded, increases by an astonishing 400 percent among children of cousin marriages."

Filthy cousin-banging sullahs.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#106 Feb 6, 2013
animals against islam wrote:
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This is hilarious.
Do you really think the apostles were originally named Peter Paul and John.
Manny, Moe and Jack. Jesus turned water into wine; Muhammad raped a dead body.

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