islam, please take my poll on Jesus.

islam, please take my poll on Jesus.

Created by debunker on Nov 12, 2013

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i believe in jesus as a prophet.

i really believe in jesus as a prophet.

i mean i really believe in Jesus as a prophet

i do not believe in jesus as a prophet.

Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#145 Nov 26, 2013
Joe98 wrote:
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What language do you think it was?
The different books of the bible were written by different people. In each case the author had a specific audience in mind so wrote his book in the local language.
The meaning of each book is clear.
SalaamZ J98 & Salutations. I really get a laugh when crosstians D E M A N D that their holybook was authored By GOD signed in red,bound in gold and thrown from heaven right into the Popes lap!And then,someone like you comes along and calmly exposes the lie.Great job! May ALLAH always have your back. CheerZ
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#146 Nov 26, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>SalaamZ J98 & Salutations. I really get a laugh when crosstians D E M A N D that their holybook was authored By GOD signed in red,bound in gold and thrown from heaven right into the Popes lap!And then,someone like you comes along and calmly exposes the lie.Great job! May ALLAH always have your back. CheerZ
There is no lie about the Bible. It was written in Aramaic,Hebrew and Greek, then converted into the languages of the Lands where Christians dwelled, in was converted into those languages not corrupted into those languages, and we have the original scriptures to check back on. Unfortunately, the Qur'an was published by Abu Bakar, who was a relative of Mohammad( all of Mohammad' s first followers of the new Religion called Islam were his relatives) and numerous other people who were involved in the rewriting of the Qur'an and credit to them that they admitted that to be a fact, but they also admitted that they had not realised that they should have kept the originals instead of burning them. When asked why they burned the original scriptures,they said that there were too many inconsistencies and different versions so they were only trying to put out one version of the Qur'an! In fact they did put out the one version but failed to correct the numerous errors and contradictions in it, but as people had also been chosen to memorize the Book,it gave them a licence to put changes in and their own prejudices and say that Mohammad had said or written it! That is the Truth, and credit to the Muslims for admitting that its how they put the Koran together.

“Athiest”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#147 Nov 26, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
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I really get a laugh when crosstians D E M A N D that their holybook was authored By GOD
NO! You have fallen for Muslim propaganda!

Christians say the letters of St Paul were written by St Paul.

Christians say the gospel of Luke was written by Luke.

Christians say the gospels of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John were written by the people who witnessed the events around Christ

Muslims say it was all written by god!

“Athiest”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#148 Nov 26, 2013
Afterwards Muslims get it wrong again!

Jesus enters a temple and cleans it. This is to show that the janitor is equal in status to everybody else.

Mark says Jesus entered a temple on a Tuesday and John said it was a Wednesday.

"See!" Muslims say. "The Bible is not consistant".

Muslims ignore the point of the story.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#149 Nov 26, 2013
warner wrote:
To Hazem,
Mohammad did believe that Moses and Jesus were of the same time frame, the Angel obviously told lies;
Quoted text below;
Others said the Harun referred to is the brother of Moses, and Mariam was classified as his sister for she is a (descendent) of (his) son.
It was narrated by Musa, narrated by Amr, narrated by Asbat, narrated by Al Suddi who said regarding "O sister of Harun!" (Of Sura 19:28) that (Mariam) was a descendent of the tribe of Harun, the brother of Moses.
(From the Arabic commentary of Al-Tabari on Sura 19:28, online edition; bold and underline emphasis ours)
Here is another instance where Arabs, people whose mother tongue was Arabic, understood the Quran’s statement to be saying that Jesus’ mother was the biological sister of Moses. So, in the Islamic traditions themselves, we now have two witnesses supporting the fact that Muhammad made a gross mistake: one witness who is viewed by Muslims as one of the most knowledgeable persons, the other witness from native Arabic speaking Christians, and both groups understood Muhammad to be teaching that Moses was Jesus’ uncle!
Qur'an 19:27-28--"At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said:'O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"
Notice that the Qur'an refers to Mary (the mother of Jesus) as the "sister of Aaron" (i.e. Miriam, the sister of Moses and Aaron). Even Christians during the time of Muhammad recognized this error, and Muhammad had a chance to respond.
Sahih Muslim 5326--"Mughira b. Shuba reported: When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read 'O sister of Harun ["Aaron"]'(i.e. Hadrat Maryam) in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them."
There is a big difference between Mariam the sister of Moses and Mariam the mother of Issa, you are the most ignorant person I've ever met.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#150 Nov 27, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>There is no lie about the Bible. It was written in Aramaic,Hebrew and Greek, then converted into the languages of the Lands where Christians dwelled, in was converted into those languages not corrupted into those languages, and we have the original scriptures to check back on. Unfortunately, the Qur'an was published by Abu Bakar, who was a relative of Mohammad( all of Mohammad' s first followers of the new Religion called Islam were his relatives) and numerous other people who were involved in the rewriting of the Qur'an and credit to them that they admitted that to be a fact, but they also admitted that they had not realised that they should have kept the originals instead of burning them. When asked why they burned the original scriptures,they said that there were too many inconsistencies and different versions so they were only trying to put out one version of the Qur'an! In fact they did put out the one version but failed to correct the numerous errors and contradictions in it, but as people had also been chosen to memorize the Book,it gave them a licence to put changes in and their own prejudices and say that Mohammad had said or written it! That is the Truth, and credit to the Muslims for admitting that its how they put the Koran together.
Salaamz dear WarMer. LOL! The Origins of the holy writ came into serious question once we had the technologies to trace its every passage.Even in saying "there is no lie about the bible" you set yourself in place to be proven wrong. I could list the factual evolutions of bible,but that would be pointless here.Ill only say that it is a poor rendering of stolen scriptures from the Hebrew Tauraat and Tannakh,with heavily edited opinions of many scribes.However One can actually find the written word of GOD thru the very words of Jesus(pbuh)who,although not God himself,had an uncanny knowledger of the divine.As for The Holy messenger Muhammad and the Holy Qur'An,a simple historic revelation shows the holy-Qur'An to be 600yrs older than the bible,not 300yrs newer.And just for your edifications,the Holy-Qur'An is an encoded script(By God)as are other truely divine edicts and statutes(In the form of scriptures) handed us by The Almighty thru His chosen servants.As for the burning of original Qur'Ans...The Khalifate missed just as many as He burned(Thank ALLAH)! CheerZ
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#151 Nov 27, 2013
hazem selawi wrote:
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There is a big difference between Mariam the sister of Moses and Mariam the mother of Issa, you are the most ignorant person I've ever met.
You are ignorant as l have clearly showed you that Mohammad did get mixed up about the mother of Jesus and the sister of Moses as both were called Miriam. If Mohammed had been in true contact with Angel Gabriel then he would not have made this error. Also other Christians on the forum have pointed out these things to Muslims but you keep on blanking the bad news about the Qur'an, even Muslim theological experts admit the truth of what l have shown you! As for ignorance, l sincerely hope that people who are Muslims are also better educated and more honest than you because if they are not then the future of Islam will degenerate into lies, oppression, ignorance and outright blasphemy and intolerance, murder and mayhem! Let's hope that there are higher calibre people who are Muslim, than ignorant liars such as yourself, who has no right to be denouncing the Bible and its history when they know and aknowledge the truth about their own religion and Koran. The Bible which you slated and l defended by pointing out the truth of the errors of the Koran and its dodgy history, that Bible has a solid background subjected to critical criteria before being allowed to pass as the Words and directives of God Yahweh.

If you slate the Bible, Christians will tell you the truth about the Qur'an. Christians don't lie about the Qur'an, we would not, and we don't need to do so as the Qur'an shows its errors clearly and its major contradictions!

I am a well educated person and definitely not someone who should be classified as a Liar and ignoramus. You just want to white-wash the Koran, at all costs but in doing so, you are the Liar and ignoramus!
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#152 Nov 27, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz dear WarMer. LOL! The Origins of the holy writ came into serious question once we had the technologies to trace its every passage.Even in saying "there is no lie about the bible" you set yourself in place to be proven wrong. I could list the factual evolutions of bible,but that would be pointless here.Ill only say that it is a poor rendering of stolen scriptures from the Hebrew Tauraat and Tannakh,with heavily edited opinions of many scribes.However One can actually find the written word of GOD thru the very words of Jesus(pbuh)who,although not God himself,had an uncanny knowledger of the divine.As for The Holy messenger Muhammad and the Holy Qur'An,a simple historic revelation shows the holy-Qur'An to be 600yrs older than the bible,not 300yrs newer.And just for your edifications,the Holy-Qur'An is an encoded script(By God)as are other truely divine edicts and statutes(In the form of scriptures) handed us by The Almighty thru His chosen servants.As for the burning of original Qur'Ans...The Khalifate missed just as many as He burned(Thank ALLAH)! CheerZ
The stories from the Torah about the Prophets (mostly Jewish Prophets) are older than the Bible, and the Bible Old Testament are copies of those stories, and they are accurate copies. As for the Koran it does contain some of those stories as copied from the Torah or the Bible, in that respect, the Koran has ancient copied scriptures, copied from another source, just like the Old Testament. In respect to the writings in the Koran that are not from the Bible or Jewish Books, and that is much of the Koran which is all about Mohammad, that work came 800 years after the scriptures that are contained in the New Testament, leaving out the copies of the Old Testament, and you are now seeming to be saying that Mohammad wrote his opinions and verses about Jesus before the New Testament was written. This trickery and deceit is the liberties and licence that Muslims take for themselves in defence of the Qur'an, you distorted and lied in my opinion, and your lies and distortions are as abhorrent to Yahweh as they are to me! I don't have a lot that l can do about it, but in due course, God will do something about the Muslim problem, just as he did with the fallen Angels who he has incarcerated in a deep pit under the sea!
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#153 Nov 27, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz dear WarMer. LOL! The Origins of the holy writ came into serious question once we had the technologies to trace its every passage.Even in saying "there is no lie about the bible" you set yourself in place to be proven wrong. I could list the factual evolutions of bible,but that would be pointless here.Ill only say that it is a poor rendering of stolen scriptures from the Hebrew Tauraat and Tannakh,with heavily edited opinions of many scribes.However One can actually find the written word of GOD thru the very words of Jesus(pbuh)who,although not God himself,had an uncanny knowledger of the divine.As for The Holy messenger Muhammad and the Holy Qur'An,a simple historic revelation shows the holy-Qur'An to be 600yrs older than the bible,not 300yrs newer.And just for your edifications,the Holy-Qur'An is an encoded script(By God)as are other truely divine edicts and statutes(In the form of scriptures) handed us by The Almighty thru His chosen servants.As for the burning of original Qur'Ans...The Khalifate missed just as many as He burned(Thank ALLAH)! CheerZ
The Bible stands up well to the technologies of today,to unbiased scholars, not lieing Athiests and lieing Muslims. You know all the dignification used by you for the Koran such as 'Holy Koran' and
' Holy Prophet Muhammad' will not brainwash people who are not Muslims to believing that the writer of the Koran was a Holy man, who wrote a Holy Book! Mohammad was a mass murderer, and a sexual predator, a thief and a Liar, a slave master, and he is not Eternal but dead and you are following the words of an ancient dead man! Christians follow the teachings and Words of the Living Jesus/Yahweh, and He will never be put to death in the future as your lieing Koran says, Jesus is not for the worms as Satan has no power over the Sinless Jesus! The worms have devoured the flesh of the sinful Mohammad, and after they ate him, they died too! You will never access Heaven, l can tell you that fact for certain, as Jesus says that is the truth! Those who deny that Jesus is the Truth of God, are already condemned before Judgement Day!

“The Prince of Peace”

Since: Jul 08

US Bible Belt

#154 Nov 28, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, Jake, thanks for your apology, it takes a big man to make one! Jake you are wonderful, my friend, you will surely walk right into Heaven! However, for your plan to work, you have to get rid of the Devil first, so l hope you have factored that goal into your plan? What is your strategy for getting rid of Satan?
Satan rules this world but he gets systematically eliminated from the new world. My system draws no lines on maps, divides no land and eliminates the money-changers, sellers, soldiers, gamblers, pornographers, profiteers, false prophets and sellers of skin all at the same time. Satan ends up in the lake of fire automatically and permanently as a result of automation. I have been judging judges in courts of law all my life and what I found out is that they cannot defend their actions or compete with my tongue. No one does the US judicial system fear more than I.
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#155 Nov 28, 2013
Jake999 wrote:
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Satan rules this world but he gets systematically eliminated from the new world. My system draws no lines on maps, divides no land and eliminates the money-changers, sellers, soldiers, gamblers, pornographers, profiteers, false prophets and sellers of skin all at the same time. Satan ends up in the lake of fire automatically and permanently as a result of automation. I have been judging judges in courts of law all my life and what I found out is that they cannot defend their actions or compete with my tongue. No one does the US judicial system fear more than I.
Well with the great power you have, l hope it's not been you that have relaxed the border controls to allow all and sundry to come from their scum Lands and come to our Eden and pull out our flowers and plant weeds and worship a False god, and destroy everything in our garden and turn it into the scum Land just like their former scummy land. We used to take a walk in our gardens in relative safety and we only had to watch out for the odd snake but now there are thousands of snakes all over the place and some of them have extremely poisonous venom. You should take that into account when you are planting your vision of Utopia. Maybe, you like snakes and vipers of all sorts?

“The Prince of Peace”

Since: Jul 08

US Bible Belt

#156 Nov 30, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Well with the great power you have, l hope it's not been you that have relaxed the border controls to allow all and sundry to come from their scum Lands and come to our Eden and pull out our flowers and plant weeds and worship a False god, and destroy everything in our garden and turn it into the scum Land just like their former scummy land. We used to take a walk in our gardens in relative safety and we only had to watch out for the odd snake but now there are thousands of snakes all over the place and some of them have extremely poisonous venom. You should take that into account when you are planting your vision of Utopia. Maybe, you like snakes and vipers of all sorts?
Its not the snakes God created but rather the people who mankind has taught who are the snakes and scum that destroy the land. I am 100% for protecting God's holy land which is all land and using it to mankind's advantage for good purposes. I also require that all borders be taken down and that everyone treats their neighbor as the would themselves. At that point you can fight with sticks and stones because their will be no weapons designed specifically to kill people. Worshiping of the corporations and banksters who fill their pockets at everyone else's expense is the problem and I want to automate all those systems and make them public services instead of for profit corporations. I eat vipers for breakfast in courts of law and in many corporations like its child's play. Utopia starts with a system that is fair to all and incorruptible.
warner

Margate, UK

#157 Dec 1, 2013
Jake999 wrote:
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Its not the snakes God created but rather the people who mankind has taught who are the snakes and scum that destroy the land. I am 100% for protecting God's holy land which is all land and using it to mankind's advantage for good purposes. I also require that all borders be taken down and that everyone treats their neighbor as the would themselves. At that point you can fight with sticks and stones because their will be no weapons designed specifically to kill people. Worshiping of the corporations and banksters who fill their pockets at everyone else's expense is the problem and I want to automate all those systems and make them public services instead of for profit corporations. I eat vipers for breakfast in courts of law and in many corporations like its child's play. Utopia starts with a system that is fair to all and incorruptible.
Are you willing to be crucified for your beliefs?

“The Prince of Peace”

Since: Jul 08

US Bible Belt

#158 Dec 1, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Are you willing to be crucified for your beliefs?
Many courts of law have attempted to crucify me for my beliefs and yet here I stand with no scratches on me. I am not here to die I am here to lead. My job is destroy your system and take mankind into paradise on earth, no dead man can do that.
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#159 Dec 1, 2013
Jake999 wrote:
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Many courts of law have attempted to crucify me for my beliefs and yet here I stand with no scratches on me. I am not here to die I am here to lead. My job is destroy your system and take mankind into paradise on earth, no dead man can do that.
Jake, it's just in Xbox games that you stand to achieve your aim because you cannot control other people who have bad mentalities. The problem is that people with your view point who have power politically to relax border controls do not understand that certain creeds of people other than people who think as you do, have different dreams from you, and they will use your systems such as lax border controls or no border controls, as a platform to launch their own view of utopia! That means that people of their creed will not be controlled by your systems, and when through force of numbers, they overturn your new world order and establish their own new world order, then we can all end up under a tyrannical regime and you can end up walking around on all fours with a collar round your neck begging for a bone from your new satanic master! That brings me back to the point where in the beginning, l asked you how did you plan to control Satan and his servants? You cannot assume that everyone will be peace loving!
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#160 Dec 1, 2013
Jake999 wrote:
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Many courts of law have attempted to crucify me for my beliefs and yet here I stand with no scratches on me. I am not here to die I am here to lead. My job is destroy your system and take mankind into paradise on earth, no dead man can do that.
Jake are you allowed to use the internet in prison?

“The Prince of Peace”

Since: Jul 08

US Bible Belt

#161 Dec 1, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Jake, it's just in Xbox games that you stand to achieve your aim because you cannot control other people who have bad mentalities. The problem is that people with your view point who have power politically to relax border controls do not understand that certain creeds of people other than people who think as you do, have different dreams from you, and they will use your systems such as lax border controls or no border controls, as a platform to launch their own view of utopia! That means that people of their creed will not be controlled by your systems, and when through force of numbers, they overturn your new world order and establish their own new world order, then we can all end up under a tyrannical regime and you can end up walking around on all fours with a collar round your neck begging for a bone from your new satanic master! That brings me back to the point where in the beginning, l asked you how did you plan to control Satan and his servants? You cannot assume that everyone will be peace loving!
Once I automate your systems Satan will have no business to run like the banking industry and private corporations. My ways have been perfect and they leave no room for bad people to exist.

“The Prince of Peace”

Since: Jul 08

US Bible Belt

#162 Dec 1, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>Jake are you allowed to use the internet in prison?
I have been in many jail cells and none of them can keep me for more than a few days. I threaten judges in court all the time and as much as they would like to silence or imprison me it just is not possible to do so and they already have determined that legally speaking.
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#163 Dec 1, 2013
Jake999 wrote:
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Once I automate your systems Satan will have no business to run like the banking industry and private corporations. My ways have been perfect and they leave no room for bad people to exist.
Marvellous, Marvellous, but before you can do these great things, the False Prophet has to come, known as the false Jesus! Then the true Jesus( obviously you) comes and puts an end to the bad people and their bad deeds, so as we have not yet seen the false Jesus, you had better wait Lord as you have come to the World too early?
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#164 Dec 1, 2013
Jake999 wrote:
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I have been in many jail cells and none of them can keep me for more than a few days. I threaten judges in court all the time and as much as they would like to silence or imprison me it just is not possible to do so and they already have determined that legally speaking.
Ah, the truth is out! So, you are now in a Mental Hospital, Broadmoors, l think its called? Well, l do hope that you get better there!

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