The Spread of Christianity and Islam

The Spread of Christianity and Islam

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Pawn-King-Nine

San Francisco, CA

#1 Jul 15, 2011
"Compare the spread of Christianity with the spread of Islam during the first two centuries of each religion's existence."

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The histories of Christian and Muslim expansion diverged from the similarity of initial dispersions caused by persecution. Although Christians continued to be persecuted until the "Edict of Toleration" of 311 AD, they were able to hide in house churches within the cities, intending that the gospel would diffuse into the countryside from there.6 But this made the spread of Christianity during the first two centuries an essentially urban phenomenon, and it became an urban religion. In contrast, Arabia had very few cities, so militant Islam spread mostly through unprotected villages and rural areas. That the Christian church continued to grow in the face of persecution throughout its first two centuries, served as a testimony to the power and truth of the Gosple of Christ for Christians. That Islam was able to so easily win battles across northern Africa, and eastward into India, served as testimony to Muslims as their having the favor of Allah. These distinctions made the spread of Christianity and the spread of Islam extremely different.

Perhaps the most significant difference between the first two centuries of the expansion of Christianity and Islam was between the methods used to spread their messages. These methods stemmed from the beliefs of each religion. Christians were taught to "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemies". The Apostle Paul wrote, "God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8). While Christians taught that God loves all people and wants them to have a personal relationship with Him, Muhammad taught that "Allah loveth not those who reject Faith."7 These contrasting attitudes caused Christians and Muslims to go about conversion in different manners. During their first two centuries, Christians did not force their religion on others but relied on missionaries, preaching, and leading godly lives as ambassadors of God.8 Muslims, on the other hand, did not rely solely on preaching to spread their faith-they turned also to the sword to conquer vast areas of land in the Middle East and Northern Africa during the seventh and eighth centuries. When they attacked or occupied new territory, they gave its inhabitants three options: convert to Islam, pay a special tax, or die. Under these circumstances many chose to pay the tax, and many others chose to convert to Islam. Clearly, the Islamic method of expansion did not match the loving approach of Christianity. However, as Christianity fell under the control of Roman Catholicism, instances of conversion by the sword were used as had been the norm in Islam. Emporers from Constantine to Charlemagne had forced baptism into Christianity by conquered peoples. The Spanish Inquisition also used violence to enhance the position of the Church. This serves to demonstate the danger of state sponsored religious persecution. This is at the heart of Islam as the Caliph embodies the head of the military and religion as patterned after Mohammad. The combimed authority has the unchecked power to engage in violent Islamic Jihad.

The differing methods of expansion actually helped determine the area each religion would cover as it spread...

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WARRIOR OF GOD

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Since: Dec 06

THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE

#4 Jul 18, 2011
'spiting on quran', I think he's an Athiest. He hates all religions. Even the true one. Bad childhood maybe. Bad Job, mean wife or blames his faults on God.

You know the kind...
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#6 Jul 18, 2011
In the year 1000, rulers of Europe decided that they and their subjects would be Christian and began rooting out paganism from the top down.

That old northern paganism involved human and animal sacrifice, so maybe it was easier to leave.

Now we have people converting at least with their mouths to this or that for all sorts of reasons. Marriage, trying to flee a country, trying to get women out of islamic countries. Afghans claiming to be Christians, thinking it's a ticket to the west.

US soldiers pretend to be muslims in order to get women out. A US gov official did that, they figured it out and killed him. The girl got on the flight, she and his wife were on TV, describing how he had done this bold stupid thing.
wik

Monticello, IN

#8 Dec 4, 2011
turn the other cheek is a great battle strategy.. it makes you stronger later on..
Ahmed

Mississauga, Canada

#9 Dec 4, 2011
Christians will not kill those who leave Christianity.Christians don't bother to produce more babies to boost Christianity.

Muslims get ferocious and kill who ever leaves Islam.Muslim Imamas force Muslims to have more and more babies to fill the globe(even if they cannot afford to feed them)

But in spite of such threatening, thousands leave Islam in secret.Others come out boldly like the following Muslims:
http://ex-muslim.org.uk/members/uk/
skeptic

Bethlehem, PA

#10 Dec 4, 2011
Pawn-King-Nine wrote:
"Compare the spread of Christianity with the spread of Islam during the first two centuries of each religion's existence."
...
The histories of Christian and Muslim expansion diverged from the similarity of initial dispersions caused by persecution. Although Christians continued to be persecuted until the "Edict of Toleration" of 311 AD, they were able to hide in house churches within the cities, intending that the gospel would diffuse into the countryside from there.6 But this made the spread of Christianity during the first two centuries an essentially urban phenomenon, and it became an urban religion. In contrast, Arabia had very few cities, so militant Islam spread mostly through unprotected villages and rural areas. That the Christian church continued to grow in the face of persecution throughout its first two centuries, served as a testimony to the power and truth of the Gosple of Christ for Christians. That Islam was able to so easily win battles across northern Africa, and eastward into India, served as testimony to Muslims as their having the favor of Allah. These distinctions made the spread of Christianity and the spread of Islam extremely different.
Perhaps the most significant difference between the first two centuries of the expansion of Christianity and Islam was between the methods used to spread their messages. These methods stemmed from the beliefs of each religion. Christians were taught to "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemies". The Apostle Paul wrote, "God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:8). While Christians taught that God loves all people and wants them to have a personal relationship with Him, Muhammad taught that "Allah loveth not those who reject Faith."7 These contrasting attitudes caused Christians and Muslims to go about conversion in different manners. During their first two centuries, Christians did not force their religion on others but relied on missionaries, preaching, and leading godly lives as ambassadors of God.8 Muslims, on the other hand, did not rely solely on preaching to spread their faith-they turned also to the sword to conquer vast areas of land in the Middle East and Northern Africa during the seventh and eighth centuries. When they attacked or occupied new territory, they gave its inhabitants three options: convert to Islam, pay a special tax, or die. Under these circumstances many chose to pay the tax, and many others chose to convert to Islam. Clearly, the Islamic method of expansion did not match the loving approach of Christianity. However, as Christianity fell under the control of Roman Catholicism, instances of conversion by the sword were used as had been the norm in Islam. Emporers from Constantine to Charlemagne had forced baptism into Christianity by conquered peoples. The Spanish Inquisition also used violence to enhance the position of the Church. This serves to demonstate the danger of state sponsored religious persecution. This is at the heart of Islam as the Caliph embodies the head of the military and religion as patterned after Mohammad. The combimed authority has the unchecked power to engage in violent Islamic Jihad.
The differing methods of expansion actually helped determine the area each religion would cover as it spread...
continued here:
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/comp/...
America is the greatest Country in the world.
It does not tolerate religious tranny.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#11 Dec 5, 2011
Salaams ! LOL! The spread of Christianity is like haveing a sandwich with Mayonaise! DULL! & BORING! comparred to the spread of Islamic MIRACLE-WHIP! UMMMMMmmmmmmmmmGOOD!
Arnold

Cambridge, MA

#12 Dec 5, 2011
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
Salaams ! LOL! The spread of Christianity is like haveing a sandwich with Mayonaise! DULL! & BORING! comparred to the spread of Islamic MIRACLE-WHIP! UMMMMMmmmmmmmmmGOOD!
Yeah, and you probably cut the sandwich with a sword. LOL!!

oo ooo ooo, violens ees sooo eksiting. eet make dee haiz all over my arss teengul

I'll tell you, it seems to be that Muslims are never more in their glory, then when they are fighting. seems to be the only thing that gives them any real purpose in life, and that's why they are so willing to become violent and fight at the mere drop of a hat or over mere words.
Arnold

Cambridge, MA

#13 Dec 5, 2011
Ahmed wrote:
But in spite of such threatening, thousands leave Islam in secret.Others come out boldly like the following Muslims:
http://ex-muslim.org.uk/members/uk/
We don't know just how many have left Islam because the barbaric animals threaten and torture those who do, while fully expecting tolerance for those who convert to Islam. That is the hypocrisy and filth these people are known for, and they simply don't care. They have no conscience nor any sense of reciprocal fairness, and then they have the nerve to wonder why the rest of the world doesn't like them nor trust them. Gee, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

But, the reason they are so harsh is actually because they are so insecure about their beliefs and their religion. They act all confident about it, but if you have to threaten people to stay in it, then obviously they are anything BUT confident and secure about Islam.

But no matter how confident they pretend to be, they know their day is coming. The spread of information will not stop and the more it spreads, the more people will leave Islam. Once you let the Geenie out of the bottle, you can't get it back in, and that is precisely what they are so afraid of.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#14 Dec 6, 2011
Arnold wrote:
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Yeah, and you probably cut the sandwich with a sword. LOL!!
oo ooo ooo, violens ees sooo eksiting. eet make dee haiz all over my arss teengul
I'll tell you, it seems to be that Muslims are never more in their glory, then when they are fighting. seems to be the only thing that gives them any real purpose in life, and that's why they are so willing to become violent and fight at the mere drop of a hat or over mere words.
Salaams & Salutations. A. Yes! Its true! We are all fighting in the cause of ALLAH. Against all the evil overlords worldwide! Against petty tyrannical politicians.Against oppressive regimes. and it will continue until every rabid one of them is put down!LOL! Cheers.
Leila

New York, NY

#15 Jan 11, 2012
WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS ASSOCIATE ISLAM AND VIOLENCE? ALWAYS? I BET AFTER 911, THE IDEA OF VIOLENCE AND ISLAM SPROUTED. RIGHT MOTHERFUDGERS? BEFORE ISLAM WAS SEEN AS GYPSY'S AND ALADDIN AND GENIE BOTTLES AND ARABIAN KNIGHTS. YOU GUYS ARE SO RETARDED. LOVE ALL RELIGIONS.PLEASE.
SANTA-BANTA

Surat, India

#16 Jan 11, 2012
Leila wrote:
WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS ASSOCIATE ISLAM AND VIOLENCE? ALWAYS? I BET AFTER 911, THE IDEA OF VIOLENCE AND ISLAM SPROUTED. RIGHT MOTHERFUDGERS? BEFORE ISLAM WAS SEEN AS GYPSY'S AND ALADDIN AND GENIE BOTTLES AND ARABIAN KNIGHTS. YOU GUYS ARE SO RETARDED. LOVE ALL RELIGIONS.PLEASE.
Love all religions!!! sounds good, But how can I love a religion which calls me filthy, inferior than dogs and donkeys, deaf, dumb and blind, only because I don't agree with it. Can YOU love such a religion?
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#17 Jan 11, 2012
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaams & Salutations. A. Yes! Its true! We are all fighting in the cause of ALLAH. Against all the evil overlords worldwide! Against petty tyrannical politicians.Against oppressive regimes. and it will continue until every rabid one of them is put down!LOL! Cheers.
YOU THINK YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR GOD, BUT YOU'RE NOT!
Why would God want any soles to be sent to hell??????? Why does he want to give his enemy so many 'soldiers'?

YOU FELL FOR SATAN'S TRICK WHEN he SENT THE QURAN!!!!!!!
and God saved my life so I could say that!
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#18 Jan 11, 2012
Leila wrote:
WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS ASSOCIATE ISLAM AND VIOLENCE? ALWAYS? I BET AFTER 911, THE IDEA OF VIOLENCE AND ISLAM SPROUTED. RIGHT MOTHERFUDGERS? BEFORE ISLAM WAS SEEN AS GYPSY'S AND ALADDIN AND GENIE BOTTLES AND ARABIAN KNIGHTS. YOU GUYS ARE SO RETARDED. LOVE ALL RELIGIONS.PLEASE.
THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#19 Jan 11, 2012
ISLAMS LATEST CONTRIBUTIONS TO PEACE:

2012.01.10 (Potiskum, Nigeria)- A 7-year-old boy is among eight innocents slain when Islamic fundamentalists storm a bar.

2012.01.10 (Dalman, Nigeria)- Three Christians are shot and hacked to death in a sectarian attack at a farming community.

2012.01.10 (Baghdad, Iraq)- A Shahid suicide bomber detonates in a crowd of Shia pilgrims, killing five.

2012.01.10 (Yathrib, Iraq)- Three schoolboys between the ages of 9 and 11 are dismantled by 'insurgents' while walking to school.

2012.01.10 (Jamrud, Pakistan)- Three dozen people waiting in line at a gas station are torn to pieces by Islamist bombers.

2012.01.10 (Sharan, Afghanistan)- Civilians and guards are killed during an assault on a telecommunications building by suicidal Fedayeen..
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#20 Jan 11, 2012
ISLAM IN THE BIBLE:

1 TIMOTHY 4
'1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.'
Lola

Miami, FL

#21 Dec 17, 2012
Arnold wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't know just how many have left Islam because the barbaric animals threaten and torture those who do, while fully expecting tolerance for those who convert to Islam. That is the hypocrisy and filth these people are known for, and they simply don't care. They have no conscience nor any sense of reciprocal fairness, and then they have the nerve to wonder why the rest of the world doesn't like them nor trust them. Gee, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.
But, the reason they are so harsh is actually because they are so insecure about their beliefs and their religion. They act all confident about it, but if you have to threaten people to stay in it, then obviously they are anything BUT confident and secure about Islam.
But no matter how confident they pretend to be, they know their day is coming. The spread of information will not stop and the more it spreads, the more people will leave Islam. Once you let the Geenie out of the bottle, you can't get it back in, and that is precisely what they are so afraid of.
People like you seriously piss me off, you are completely blind of what Islam truly is. Not all Muslims are part of the Taliban or helped organize 9/11. Many other religions, like Christianity for example, led crusades that killed millions of people over the years, simply because they were not tolerant of others. We live in a world that is full of diversity, embrace it, learn to hold judgments.
friend

Darlington, UK

#22 Mar 10, 2013
Please do not be confused between a salafi (radical fundamentalist extremist so called muslim) and an ordinary muslim... for the crimes an approx 10% minority commits please do not blame the remaining 90% who are being persecuted... yes its true the minority salafi actually discriminates the majority of muslims aswell as ethnic minorities and non-muslims, basically anyone that is not salafi is nit worthy of living to them! The whole world is suffering because of salafists, especially other muslims!

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