FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#108 Sep 2, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
A Bunch of Jews Are Stronger Than Your God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZMsRNHSbVpcXX
This poor guy on the screen doesn't know how to deal with the questions. God is one God in three persons. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit all three exist in the one Godhead. There are not three gods; there is not one god who is somehow divided into three parts; there is one God who takes the form of three persons. When Jesus died on the cross, He died, not God the Father. There are some things that we just are not meant to completely understand in this life. This is one of them.
Kss

Paris, France

#109 Sep 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh,How great Allah's mercy is upon a non-Muslims soul who's head is chopped off by a brave Muslim man, and Oh how great Allah's blessing is to grant the Muslim mind to do such an evil deed!
72 virgins he will receive for allowing Allah to deceive his Muslim soul!
Verses from the Koran and Hadiths.
Truly, god loves those who fight
- Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them,
and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for
them in every stratagem.
- Chop off their hands and chop off their fingertips
- When you meet the unbelievers, chop off their
heads
- Fight and slay those who don't convert wherever
you find them
- Believers, take neither Jew nor Christians for your
friends
- Those who follow Muhammad are ruthless to
unbelievers
- Those who reject Islam are "the vilest of creatures"
and thus deserve no mercy
- Fight them until Islam reigns supreme (throughout
the world)
There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. There are exactly 123 verses in the Qur'an about killing and fighting.
Is that you have read the Koran? Stop doing copy paste texts enemy of Islam!THERE IS NONE TO QUOTE THIS SENTENCE IN THE QURAN

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#112 Sep 4, 2013
Kss wrote:
<quoted text>Is that you have read the Koran? Stop doing copy paste texts enemy of Islam!THERE IS NONE TO QUOTE THIS SENTENCE IN THE QURAN
Take a look at your self Kss!
Your are grown man and you still don't know the difference between good and evil, right and wrong.
You need to grow up Lad, you still talk like a 5th grade school yard bully!

Is that the way you make a living by bulling people around?
Are you still bulling kids into giving you their lunch Money?

No wonder your brain dead, you probably go around with your nose in the air sniffing for a left over fart left by Muhammad.

Grow up Kss! The 7th century came and gone a thousand years ago!
golden sword

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#113 Sep 4, 2013
no offence.

Did Jesus Really Know That Judas Will Betray Him?
If yes,why Jesus took him as one of his disciples?
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#114 Sep 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Take a look at your self Kss!
Your are grown man and you still don't know the difference between good and evil, right and wrong.
You need to grow up Lad, you still talk like a 5th grade school yard bully!
Is that the way you make a living by bulling people around?
Are you still bulling kids into giving you their lunch Money?
No wonder your brain dead, you probably go around with your nose in the air sniffing for a left over fart left by Muhammad.
Grow up Kss! The 7th century came and gone a thousand years ago!
In the verse of the Quran it is written or 72 virgins
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#115 Sep 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh,How great Allah's mercy is upon a non-Muslims soul who's head is chopped off by a brave Muslim man, and Oh how great Allah's blessing is to grant the Muslim mind to do such an evil deed!
72 virgins he will receive for allowing Allah to deceive his Muslim soul!
Verses from the Koran and Hadiths.
Truly, god loves those who fight
- Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them,
and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for
them in every stratagem.
- Chop off their hands and chop off their fingertips
- When you meet the unbelievers, chop off their
heads
- Fight and slay those who don't convert wherever
you find them
- Believers, take neither Jew nor Christians for your
friends
- Those who follow Muhammad are ruthless to
unbelievers
- Those who reject Islam are "the vilest of creatures"
and thus deserve no mercy
- Fight them until Islam reigns supreme (throughout
the world)
There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. There are exactly 123 verses in the Qur'an about killing and fighting.
So I can answer all your questions here, first give the name of verse which speaks of 72 virgins!
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#116 Sep 4, 2013
golden sword wrote:
no offence.
Did Jesus Really Know That Judas Will Betray Him?
If yes,why Jesus took him as one of his disciples?
Jesus came to us knowing He must die for us; therefore, He chose Judas to fulfill the Scriptures.
Atheist Silurist

Slough, UK

#117 Sep 4, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus came to us knowing He must die for us; therefore, He chose Judas to fulfill the Scriptures.
So jesus/god sent himself to sacrifice himself to save humanity from himself? How could he have fcuked up so badly the first time?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#118 Sep 4, 2013
Kss wrote:
<quoted text>Is that you have read the Koran? Stop doing copy paste texts enemy of Islam!THERE IS NONE TO QUOTE THIS SENTENCE IN THE QURAN
THE MUSLIM GOD ALLAH IS A PAGAN GOD!

In recent years I have become increasingly convinced that for an adequate understanding of the career of Muhammad and the origins of Islam great importance must be attached to the existence in Mecca of belief in Allah as a "high god." In a sense this is a form of paganism, but it is so different from paganism as commonly understood that it deserves separate treatment" (William Montgomery Watt, Muhammad's Mecca, p. vii. Also see his article, "Belief in a High God in Pre-Islamic Mecca", Journal of Semitic Studies, Vol. 16, 1971, pp. 35-40).

Caesar Farah in his book on Islam concludes his discussion of the pre-Islamic meaning of Allah by saying:

"There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews" (Islam: Beliefs and Observations, New York, Barrons, 1987, p. 28).

According to Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, whose translation of the Quran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Ba-al, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran, Osnabruck: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973, p. 36).

Astral Religions
In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah!(Islam, p. 7).

The name Allah was used as the personal name of the moon god, in addition to other titles that could be given to him.

Allah, the moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called "the daughters of Allah." These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.

The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as "high" gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities.

"Along with Allah, however, they worshipped a host of lesser gods and "daughters of Al-lah" (Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, I:61)".

The Crescent Moon Symbol
The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.

Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.

While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity.

The Gods of the Quraysh
The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.

The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.

The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.

Praying Toward Mecca
An Allah idol was set up at the Kebah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed.

It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca.
golden sword

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#119 Sep 4, 2013
No offence,

Where in the bible does Jesus say he died for our sins?
If he said that,
Doesn't this contradict Duet 24:16

The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Below,Jesus is unwilling to die;

15:34 And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice,“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?”(which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”)

Also (Matthew 27:46)

How can we reconcile them?
golden sword

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#120 Sep 4, 2013
Shamma,
Ignorance is a bliss!
Eric

United States

#121 Sep 4, 2013
golden sword wrote:
No offence,
Where in the bible does Jesus say he died for our sins?
If he said that,
Doesn't this contradict Duet 24:16
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
Below,Jesus is unwilling to die;
15:34 And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice,“Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?”(which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”)
Also (Matthew 27:46)
How can we reconcile them?
Read John chapter three... As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness so must the Son of man be lifted up; also consider this And if I be lifted up from the earth I will draw all men to myself...
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#122 Sep 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh,How great Allah's mercy is upon a non-Muslims soul who's head is chopped off by a brave Muslim man, and Oh how great Allah's blessing is to grant the Muslim mind to do such an evil deed!
72 virgins he will receive for allowing Allah to deceive his Muslim soul!
Verses from the Koran and Hadiths.
Truly, god loves those who fight
- Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them,
and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for
them in every stratagem.
- Chop off their hands and chop off their fingertips
- When you meet the unbelievers, chop off their
heads
- Fight and slay those who don't convert wherever
you find them
- Believers, take neither Jew nor Christians for your
friends
- Those who follow Muhammad are ruthless to
unbelievers
- Those who reject Islam are "the vilest of creatures"
and thus deserve no mercy
- Fight them until Islam reigns supreme (throughout
the world)
There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. There are exactly 123 verses in the Qur'an about killing and fighting.
What you quoted is a hadith (which is supposed to be the words of the prophet Muhammad).
The main problem is the authenticity of the hadith and many that have not been spoken by the prophet. Various interpretations are therefore detrimental to the message of religion and by extension to its image.The Quran is nothing said about 72 virgins
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#123 Sep 5, 2013
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#124 Sep 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>THE MUSLIM GOD ALLAH IS A PAGAN GOD!
In recent years I have become increasingly convinced that for an adequate understanding of the career of Muhammad and the origins of Islam great importance must be attached to the existence in Mecca of belief in Allah as a "high god." In a sense this is a form of paganism, but it is so different from paganism as commonly understood that it deserves separate treatment" (William Montgomery Watt, Muhammad's Mecca, p. vii. Also see his article, "Belief in a High God in Pre-Islamic Mecca", Journal of Semitic Studies, Vol. 16, 1971, pp. 35-40).
Caesar Farah in his book on Islam concludes his discussion of the pre-Islamic meaning of Allah by saying:
"There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews" (Islam: Beliefs and Observations, New York, Barrons, 1987, p. 28).
According to Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, whose translation of the Quran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Ba-al, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran, Osnabruck: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973, p. 36).
Astral Religions
In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah!(Islam, p. 7).
The name Allah was used as the personal name of the moon god, in addition to other titles that could be given to him.
Allah, the moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called "the daughters of Allah." These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as "high" gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities.
"Along with Allah, however, they worshipped a host of lesser gods and "daughters of Al-lah" (Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, I:61)".
The Crescent Moon Symbol
The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.
Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.
While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity.
The Gods of the Quraysh
The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.
The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.
The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.
Praying Toward Mecca
An Allah idol was set up at the Kebah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed.
It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca.
11) In Surat Detailed verses: "And among His signs are the night and day, sun and moon: Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if it is Him you worship. But if they are arrogant ... those who are with your Lord [the angels] glorify Him night and day, never tiring! "(Verses 37 and 38)
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#125 Sep 5, 2013
Shamma A The Turkish tribes have always hit their banners special emblems, and well before converting to Islam (ninth century). Among these, the crescent moon, which holds an important place in Turkish astral iconography. So much so that very old Turkish gradually became the symbol of Islam, through the 1453 Sultan Mehmet the Ottomans.en 2 introduces the symbol in Islam, after serving Constantinople a Christian city whose symbol city &#8203;&#8203;are the crescent moon, crescent and star were used as symbols of Byzantium for centuries (the moon represents the Greek goddess Artemis, and stars the Virgin Mary). Many say that Islamophobia is a symbol of the pre-Islamic Arabs was directly taken over by Muslims.
But historically it is a symbol that could be found everywhere, and was taken by the Turkish dynasties. Then that was taken late in the Muslim world based Islam has no symbol
Kss

Les Pavillons, France

#126 Sep 5, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>THE MUSLIM GOD ALLAH IS A PAGAN GOD!
In recent years I have become increasingly convinced that for an adequate understanding of the career of Muhammad and the origins of Islam great importance must be attached to the existence in Mecca of belief in Allah as a "high god." In a sense this is a form of paganism, but it is so different from paganism as commonly understood that it deserves separate treatment" (William Montgomery Watt, Muhammad's Mecca, p. vii. Also see his article, "Belief in a High God in Pre-Islamic Mecca", Journal of Semitic Studies, Vol. 16, 1971, pp. 35-40).
Caesar Farah in his book on Islam concludes his discussion of the pre-Islamic meaning of Allah by saying:
"There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews" (Islam: Beliefs and Observations, New York, Barrons, 1987, p. 28).
According to Middle East scholar E.M. Wherry, whose translation of the Quran is still used today, in pre-Islamic times Allah-worship, as well as the worship of Ba-al, were both astral religions in that they involved the worship of the sun, the moon, and the stars (A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran, Osnabruck: Otto Zeller Verlag, 1973, p. 36).
Astral Religions
In Arabia, the sun god was viewed as a female goddess and the moon as the male god. As has been pointed out by many scholars such as Alfred Guilluame, the moon god was called by various names, one of which was Allah!(Islam, p. 7).
The name Allah was used as the personal name of the moon god, in addition to other titles that could be given to him.
Allah, the moon god, was married to the sun goddess. Together they produced three goddesses who were called "the daughters of Allah." These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
The daughters of Allah, along with Allah and the sun goddess were viewed as "high" gods. That is, they were viewed as being at the top of the pantheon of Arabian deities.
"Along with Allah, however, they worshipped a host of lesser gods and "daughters of Al-lah" (Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, I:61)".
The Crescent Moon Symbol
The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.
Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.
While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity.
The Gods of the Quraysh
The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah.
The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.
The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.
Praying Toward Mecca
An Allah idol was set up at the Kebah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed.
It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca.
I pity your ignorance, you are not friendly is you're Islamophobic you do not deserve what I got your answer silly but just so you die less silly

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#127 Sep 5, 2013
golden sword wrote:
no offence.
Did Jesus Really Know That Judas Will Betray Him?
If yes,why Jesus took him as one of his disciples?
You Muslims are brain dead.
Every one has a free will and mind to choose this or that.
Judas had the free will not to betray Jesus, but Judas chose to betray Jesus by his own free will.

The same with you Muslim, you have the choice to worship God or Allah the pagan moon god, and you choose to worship the pagan moon god Allah.
golden sword

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#128 Sep 5, 2013
Shamma,
My question;
Did Jesus knew that Judas would betray him?
If yes,why he did chosen him to be one of his apostles,if he didn't know,shouldn't he knew as son of god as claimed by the Christians?
I think you're mentally confused to understand my question,I suggest leave this to those who knew the answer..
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You Muslims are brain dead.
Every one has a free will and mind to choose this or that.
Judas had the free will not to betray Jesus, but Judas chose to betray Jesus by his own free will.
The same with you Muslim, you have the choice to worship God or Allah the pagan moon god, and you choose to worship the pagan moon god Allah.
golden sword

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#129 Sep 5, 2013
Eric,
I'm not talking about lifting up or down,
My question,
Where in the bible does Jesus say he died for our sins?

Remember,
Enoch walked in faith the 365 years of his life, and that made all the difference. No matter what happened, he trusted God. He obeyed God. God loved Enoch so much he spared him the experience of death,then God lifted him up alive.

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