Proof quran is false?

Proof quran is false?

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Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#1 Jan 25, 2010
One cast iron proof that the quran is false is because Mohammed based his book the quran largely on fables borrowed from the old tetsament of the Bible.

Moses is quoted more than 100 times in the quran. These Moeses fables - exodus, parting of the red sea, etc. are very familiar.

What scholars now say is Genesis and Exodus dont have the slightest claim to historical veracity.

Archeology has shown that no exodus took place. Egyptian records contain no reference at all to Israelites, the Oppression, the Exodus or Moses.

Some scholars believe that the sun-worshipping monotheism of Akhenaten kicked off the Yahweh worship cult.

I believe this is a possibility. Moses was an Atenist priest and took a bunch of Egyptians (who later became the "Hebrews") to Israel.

Note this religion was original a polytheistic. In the Bible the word used for God is Elohim - the gods. Yahweh is king of the gods. Not THE God.

Israel comes from Isis-Ra-El. Zionist is Sion-ism. Sun worship. Star of David - sun symbol.

This carried on to Christianity. The Sun of God, or God the Sun. Worshipped on a Sun-day. Jesus with a halo round his head. The light of the world. Its all about the Sun.

Mohammed believed these fables and garbled stories were literally true.

They werent. The Levite nobility picked them up from the Sumerian polytheistic mythology during the Babylonian captivity.

They lived under the Hammurabi legal code. These laws later became the Torah (eye for an eye etc). They also learnt the Sumerian creation and flood myth called Gilgamesh.

When they were returned to Israel, the priests cobbled together these laws and myths into their own history and borrowed stories, to form the Hebrew Bible.

These priestly dudes proceeded to set up a theocracy in Israel. Over time the Yahweh cult elevated Yahweh to the sole deity.

Sacrificing sheep and goats to appease an angry God makes no sense to us, but obviously made perfect sense to an iron age mindset.

These were the source documents plagiarized by Mohammed to form the quran.

Mohammed obviously lapped this all up as literal truth. Thats why the Quran copies these stories and put their own twist on them. Yep, he was duped.
Billy

Dundas, Canada

#2 Jan 25, 2010
Want proof the Koran is false. First of all Mohommad couldn't even read or write. Second of all the Koran was writen 140 years after Mohommad's death. All recorded info of what Mohommad said was in the heads of people passed down from 140 years. Now we all know how accurate that can be. Then 140 years after Mohommad's death the elders of Islam decided that they should record the words of Mohommad. They sat and argued about what should be put in the Koran for months until they came to an agreement and layed out what they wanted in the koran. Then the Koran was changed at least 5 times over the next few weeks of their writing. So tell me how accurate it is. not. No one could play the telephone game for 140 years and nothing get change. No one. The Koran has been changed, and it is inaccurate.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#3 Jan 25, 2010
Billy wrote:
All recorded info of what Mohommad said was in the heads of people passed down from 140 years.
Nice post. Interesting. Sounds quite like how ppl think the Bible gospels may have been put together.

But even if these guys wrote this stuff down on leaves and animal skins, if it was based on Sumerian and Egpytian mythology its just a rehash of earlier myths.
Jake

Dundas, Canada

#4 Jan 25, 2010
Looking for Mohammed
A Muslim dies and finds himself before the pearly gates. He is very excited, as all his life he has longed to meet the Prophet Mohammed.
Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, he meets a man with a beard.-'Are you Mohammed?' he asks 'No, my son. I am Peter. Mohammed is higher up' And he points to a ladder that rises into the clouds
Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, he climbs the ladder in great strides. He meets another bearded man. Full of hope, he asks again,'Are you Mohammed?''No, I am Jesus.. Mohammed is higher up still'
Mohammed higher than Jesus! The poor man can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher. Once again, he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:'Are You Mohammed?''No, I am Moses. Mohammed is higher still'
Exhausted but with heart full of joy, he continues to climb the ladder and, yet again, he meets a man with a beard.'Are you Mohammed?' he gasps, as he is by now, totally out of breath from all his climbing.
'No, my son. I am God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a coffee?'
'Yes please, my Lord' God looks behind him, claps his hands and calls out,:'Mohammed, two coffees, please'.
bmz

Singapore, Singapore

#5 Jan 25, 2010
Mo did make it to be the Pearly White Boy. Bless his Heart.

Cheers
BMZ

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#6 Jan 25, 2010
Jake wrote:
Looking for Mohammed
A Muslim dies and finds himself before the pearly gates. He is very excited, as all his life he has longed to meet the Prophet Mohammed.
Having arrived at the Gates of Heaven, he meets a man with a beard.-'Are you Mohammed?' he asks 'No, my son. I am Peter. Mohammed is higher up' And he points to a ladder that rises into the clouds
Delighted that Mohammed should be higher than Peter, he climbs the ladder in great strides. He meets another bearded man. Full of hope, he asks again,'Are you Mohammed?''No, I am Jesus.. Mohammed is higher up still'
Mohammed higher than Jesus! The poor man can hardly contain his delight and climbs and climbs, ever higher. Once again, he meets a man with a beard and repeats his question:'Are You Mohammed?''No, I am Moses. Mohammed is higher still'
Exhausted but with heart full of joy, he continues to climb the ladder and, yet again, he meets a man with a beard.'Are you Mohammed?' he gasps, as he is by now, totally out of breath from all his climbing.
'No, my son. I am God. But you look exhausted. Would you like a coffee?'
'Yes please, my Lord' God looks behind him, claps his hands and calls out,:'Mohammed, two coffees, please'.
LOL!!

Where's the 72 virgins?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#7 Jan 25, 2010
Thunder-Girl wrote:
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LOL!!
Where's the 72 virgins?
Lets hope they're not watching soaps on TV. If the 72 virgins start hogging the remote, poor ol Moe will be in hell :o)
Jake

Dundas, Canada

#8 Jan 25, 2010
LOL Thunder girl-- He got his virgins, but no one ever said they would be women... LOL Mohommad and his 72 virgin boys.

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#9 Jan 25, 2010
Adam wrote:
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Lets hope they're not watching soaps on TV. If the 72 virgins start hogging the remote, poor ol Moe will be in hell :o)
LOL!! Hmmmm, better for them to watch soaps, than have to perform sexual acts on a dirty old man. YUUUUUCK!

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#10 Jan 25, 2010
Jake wrote:
LOL Thunder girl-- He got his virgins, but no one ever said they would be women... LOL Mohommad and his 72 virgin boys.
LOL!!! Hopefully 72 virgin FAT HAIRY SWEATY BUBBAS!
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11 Jan 25, 2010
Musa/Moses will be saying hang you guys "do not covet thy neighbours 72 wives".

Although technically speaking it could be 1 wife and 71 concubines. In which case technically speaking sex slaves have no rights, so its OK, using Mohammed's logic.
The Believer

Champaign, IL

#13 Mar 2, 2012
Billy wrote:
Want proof the Koran is false. First of all Mohommad couldn't even read or write. Second of all the Koran was writen 140 years after Mohommad's death. All recorded info of what Mohommad said was in the heads of people passed down from 140 years. Now we all know how accurate that can be. Then 140 years after Mohommad's death the elders of Islam decided that they should record the words of Mohommad. They sat and argued about what should be put in the Koran for months until they came to an agreement and layed out what they wanted in the koran. Then the Koran was changed at least 5 times over the next few weeks of their writing. So tell me how accurate it is. not. No one could play the telephone game for 140 years and nothing get change. No one. The Koran has been changed, and it is inaccurate.
You are wrong, Quran was not written 140 years after Muhammad's (PBUH) death. The this is Quran was not even written by any humans or anybody except God himself. I think you are mistaking with hadith,which is merely the way Muhammaed lived his life. Peace be upon you.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#15 Mar 6, 2012
SalaamZ! Proof that the Bible is real but corrupted.Just open to any page and dissect!LOL!
flaskballs

Saint Kilda, Australia

#17 Aug 8, 2012
"their stretch marks" why do i always do that
Tony

Coimbatore, India

#18 Oct 8, 2012
The Believer wrote:
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You are wrong, Quran was not written 140 years after Muhammad's (PBUH) death. The this is Quran was not even written by any humans or anybody except God himself. I think you are mistaking with hadith,which is merely the way Muhammaed lived his life. Peace be upon you.
Why would God write the same stuff which is written in a different book (Bible) in a different language? And why would God suddenly send a messenger from Arabia when all the others who were sent before were from Israel? Why would God promise virgins? suddenly to the new prophet when he didn't promise any such things to the prophets who were sent before? Why would God change his doctrines suddenly when the new prophet arrived when it was same for all the prophet who came before?
You will find the answers only when you search for it.
a believer

Pontianak, Indonesia

#19 Jan 17, 2013
Billy wrote:
Want proof the Koran is false. First of all Mohommad couldn't even read or write. Second of all the Koran was writen 140 years after Mohommad's death. All recorded info of what Mohommad said was in the heads of people passed down from 140 years. Now we all know how accurate that can be. Then 140 years after Mohommad's death the elders of Islam decided that they should record the words of Mohommad. They sat and argued about what should be put in the Koran for months until they came to an agreement and layed out what they wanted in the koran. Then the Koran was changed at least 5 times over the next few weeks of their writing. So tell me how accurate it is. not. No one could play the telephone game for 140 years and nothing get change. No one. The Koran has been changed, and it is inaccurate.
dude you have no proof the quran was written 140 years after his death. have you even read the quran? or are you just saying what others told you. and the quran wasnt made by humans god made it himself, why do you think in the quran says the speed of light? do you really think some one was able to figure the speed of light 1500 years ago? the fact that you tell lies about the quran is just pathetic. id rather listen to comments about the quran from someone who actually read it before than someone that thinks they know the quran because someone told it to them. just because you think al Qaeda was formed by muslims to kill every non-muslim doesnt mean all muslims are evil. now go home and read the quran and i bet you wont find anything wrong inside it dumbass. and if you want to comment about something make sure you know what you're commenting before you comment.

thank you,
a believer

Pontianak, Indonesia

#20 Jan 17, 2013
Tony wrote:
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Why would God write the same stuff which is written in a different book (Bible) in a different language? And why would God suddenly send a messenger from Arabia when all the others who were sent before were from Israel? Why would God promise virgins? suddenly to the new prophet when he didn't promise any such things to the prophets who were sent before? Why would God change his doctrines suddenly when the new prophet arrived when it was same for all the prophet who came before?
You will find the answers only when you search for it.
btw the quran doesnt have the same stuff as the bible. the quran has the speed of light, the shape of the earth, and everything scientific that we were able to know because of 20th century technology. have you even read the quran? of course you haven't so next time when you want to comment or prove something is wrong, make sure you know what you're commenting on.

thank you,

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#21 Jan 17, 2013
Jesus and God are chilling in heaven when the doorbell rings.
God goes to the door and finds Allah waiting by the door.
God turns to Jesus and asks:,,Did you order Kebab?"
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#22 Jan 17, 2013
swerty wrote:
Jesus and God are chilling in heaven when the doorbell rings.
God goes to the door and finds Allah waiting by the door.
God turns to Jesus and asks:,,Did you order Kebab?"
Salaamz S. LOL! You have now given proof that jesus is NOT GOD! Thank you Soooooo much.Its just one more notch on my belt of proofs that crosstianz are berzerkerz and wholly misled. Cheerz
sabana

Bolton, UK

#23 Jan 20, 2013
brother present bible is not true bible the true bible beind hided because in their clear worsen say muhummed last messanger coming and it say follow his path if all crishtion no this they become muslim and pop mission dont work today most spreading religion is islam why? because people is educated now and reshrch and understand wich is right and wich is fabricated just think

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