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We need to grow in understanding of Muslims, English bishop says

There are 155 comments on the Free Republic story from Jul 20, 2013, titled We need to grow in understanding of Muslims, English bishop says. In it, Free Republic reports that:

Bishop Kieran Conry of Arundel and Brighton has written a pastoral letter urging Catholics in his diocese to reach out to Muslims.

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bmz

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#69 Jul 28, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Bart Ehrman is a nobody.
Mostly he saw dollar signs and went for it.
His works are rejected by main stream Christians.
No hears of him any more.
Of course, the ignorant and clueless Christians will reject his work.

If you were to face him, you will run away within a few minutes.

The man is brilliant.

Proud American

Indianapolis, IN

#70 Jul 28, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Of course, the ignorant and clueless Christians will reject his work.
If you were to face him, you will run away within a few minutes.
The man is brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =P0zWbL8UqfwXX
A Muslim calling someone else ignorant. Now that's rich.

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#71 Jul 28, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Bull Shit!
Both you and Shamma are ignorant fools!
According to the Liars' collection, known as the New Testament, this is what Jesus said:
" Matthew 10:5-6 English Standard Version (ESV)
Jesus Sends Out the Twelve Apostles
5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them,“Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans, 6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
Do you dare deny this? This is what he said. The rest of the verses presented are forgeries and fraud.
it is easy to pick out the parts that back your own reasoning, but if you take the scriptures as a whole your argument falls apart, Mathew 24: 14 points out the good news will be taught in all the inhabited earth. the trouble with islam and the teachings of mohamed is, they are the opposite of what Jehovah wants, so you will find any way to contradict them, every time the Bible shows the koran is false you say the Bible is a forgery or it is a fraud, so you don't have to change your ways. Sad really!

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#72 Jul 28, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Of course, the ignorant and clueless Christians will reject his work.
If you were to face him, you will run away within a few minutes.
The man is brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =P0zWbL8UqfwXX
the man is an idiot, he may have been to so many colleges and seminars but all he learned were the thoughts of men.

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#73 Jul 28, 2013
Aussie Bob wrote:
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I watched your video. I found it to be very cheery and heartwarming.
Cheers...
Thanks
Shamma.

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#74 Jul 28, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course, the ignorant and clueless Christians will reject his work.
If you were to face him, you will run away within a few minutes.
The man is brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =P0zWbL8UqfwXX
The Holy Bible is God's written word to mankind. It has been
written over thousands of years by many people under the
inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and miraculously preserved until
today. There are many ancient documents, but those in the Holy
Bible are of great importance to Jews and Christians, because
they explain the way to fellowship with God and the way to live.

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for
reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that
the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.--
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NASB)

The difference between the Bible and the Quran is:
The Bible is the direct Word of God coming from God.

The Quran are revelations not direct from God.
The Quran is based on words Muhammad said came from the angel Gabriel.

The Quran are words Muhammad said came from the angel Gabriel without proof the revelations are from God.
Just wondering

Oakland, CA

#75 Jul 28, 2013
Shamma wrote:
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The Holy Bible is God's written word to mankind. It has been
written over thousands of years by many people under the
inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and miraculously preserved until
today. There are many ancient documents, but those in the Holy
Bible are of great importance to Jews and Christians, because
they explain the way to fellowship with God and the way to live.
All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for
reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that
the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.--
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NASB)
The difference between the Bible and the Quran is:
The Bible is the direct Word of God coming from God.
The Quran are revelations not direct from God.
The Quran is based on words Muhammad said came from the angel Gabriel.
The Quran are words Muhammad said came from the angel Gabriel without proof the revelations are from God.
People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like “it’s true to me” and “it’s faith.” But believing in something doesn’t make it true. Hoping that something is true doesn’t make it true. The existence of God is not subjective. He either exists or he doesn’t. It’s not a matter of opinion.

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#76 Jul 28, 2013
Just wondering wrote:
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People who believe in God don’t need proof of his existence, and they certainly don’t want evidence to the contrary. They are happy with their belief. They even say things like “it’s true to me” and “it’s faith.” But believing in something doesn’t make it true. Hoping that something is true doesn’t make it true. The existence of God is not subjective. He either exists or he doesn’t. It’s not a matter of opinion.
I have no problem with that.
But I do have a problem with men that play God for their own agenda.
The truth is: The right to Life ,Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness
is a right to man from God.

We are born with a free will to make choices in life.
Knowing the difference between god and evil is the choices we face in life.
So how do we know what the differences is between good and evil?
Where do we get the answer to that question from?
Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#77 Jul 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I have no problem with that.
But I do have a problem with men that play God for their own agenda.
The truth is: The right to Life ,Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness
is a right to man from God.

We are born with a free will to make choices in life.
Knowing the difference between god and evil is the choices we face in life.
So how do we know what the differences is between good and evil?
Where do we get the answer to that question from?
I get those answers from my conscience. Generally speaking, it guides me well. Many people need to believe in something bigger and require a set of rigorous guidelines to help them through this life. Those are the people who find mainstream religions more appealing.

Just my opinion.
Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#78 Jul 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The Holy Bible is God's written word to mankind. It has been
written over thousands of years by many people under the
inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and miraculously preserved until
today. There are many ancient documents, but those in the Holy
Bible are of great importance to Jews and Christians, because
they explain the way to fellowship with God and the way to live.

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for
reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that
the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.--
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NASB)

The difference between the Bible and the Quran is:
The Bible is the direct Word of God coming from God.

The Quran are revelations not direct from God.
The Quran is based on words Muhammad said came from the angel Gabriel.

The Quran are words Muhammad said came from the angel Gabriel without proof the revelations are from God.
To be frank with you; the Holy Bible is not considered overly important to the Jewish people. This is largely because they rejected Christ as the messiah, so his teachings are considered to be of little relevance to them.

Like I said in a few posts back; the Quran and the Torah are both based on the writings of the Old Testament. Neither Islam nor Judaism make any secret of this fact. The Christian Bible was written after the Old Testament and it is only loosely based on Old Testament teachings.

I am not a big fan of the Old Testament because I feel it is rather inhumane...
Gwydion

Leeds, UK

#79 Jul 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
So how do we know what the differences is between good and evil?
Where do we get the answer to that question from?
Human beings are perfectly intelligent enough to know the difference for themselves, without murdering, rapist prophets like Mad Mo muddying the waters.
addition

Chesapeake, OH

#80 Jul 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
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Now that you are a Buddhist, shall I ask you to go back to India? Waht kind of an idiotic suggestion was that.
You are free to go for the New Testament but having read and studied it, I find it full of absurdities.
It shows Jesus as a stupid, incoherent and a confused person, who did not know who he was.
The New Testament was written by Drama Queens, who wanted to win the pagans. God does not even utter a word in the New Testament.
The New Testament is full of hocus pocus and is a complete mishmash. You go for it. Even Buddha, the wisest man on earth did say that he was God.
Low IQ = inferiority complex = hatred of everything and everyone different and even mildly critical ... This is, unfortunately, particularly true for the followers of Islam.

There are only three Muslim countries in the list of 43 with average IQ of 90 and higher, and that includes Israel with about 20% of it's population being Muslim*. Two others are Malaysia (IQ92) and Turkey (IQ90).

Now, in the bottom part of the table, with average IQ under 90 (and all the way down to 59!) we see 23 Muslim (or predominantly Muslim) countries out of 38 listed.

If we keep political correctness out of the equation, the conclusion is rather obvious.

* I am not aware of any study been conducted, that tested separately average IQs of ethnic groups in Israel, although I do know that Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ of all ethnic groups worldwide, so the effect of that 20% Muslim population must have been very significant to put Israel at IQ94. Comparative studies in Germany (average IQ102) showed significantly lower IQ of the Turkish segment of the population.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#81 Jul 29, 2013
addition wrote:
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Low IQ = inferiority complex = hatred of everything and everyone different and even mildly critical ... This is, unfortunately, particularly true for the followers of Islam.
There are only three Muslim countries in the list of 43 with average IQ of 90 and higher, and that includes Israel with about 20% of it's population being Muslim*. Two others are Malaysia (IQ92) and Turkey (IQ90).
Now, in the bottom part of the table, with average IQ under 90 (and all the way down to 59!) we see 23 Muslim (or predominantly Muslim) countries out of 38 listed.
If we keep political correctness out of the equation, the conclusion is rather obvious.
* I am not aware of any study been conducted, that tested separately average IQs of ethnic groups in Israel, although I do know that Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ of all ethnic groups worldwide, so the effect of that 20% Muslim population must have been very significant to put Israel at IQ94. Comparative studies in Germany (average IQ102) showed significantly lower IQ of the Turkish segment of the population.
To me, an average American is dumb and his/her IQ is about 20 at the most. And I am not kidding.

Anyway, being a Singaporean my IQ stands at 103 (No: 5 in the world) and your IQ stands at 98 (No: 19 in the world).

Trust me!

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

Since: Apr 11

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#82 Jul 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
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To me, an average American is dumb and his/her IQ is about 20 at the most. And I am not kidding.
Anyway, being a Singaporean my IQ stands at 103 (No: 5 in the world) and your IQ stands at 98 (No: 19 in the world).
Trust me!
http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm
How can your IQ be 103 when you believe in Muhammad who Cursed God?

MUSLIMS DON"T BELIEVE ON GOD!

Muslims are already cursed with the curse of Muhammad upon them.
Muhammad cursed Muslims with the curse to love death more than life!

God gives life and Muhammad cursed God for giving life to Gods Creation.

God prayed over His creation and consecrated it as Holy and Good unto God.

Muslims don't understand, Muhammad made himself a god.
Muhammad is the god of death and destruction of human life.
"Love Death More Than Life"

We are to live life for the glory of God.

Genesis 1:29
The Sixth Day: Creatures on Land
…29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creeps on the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

1 Timothy 4:4 For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
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1 Timothy 4:5 because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.
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Exodus 31:17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.'"
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Psalm 104:24 How many are your works, LORD! In wisdom you made them all; the earth is full of your creatures.
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Psalm 104:28 When you give it to them, they gather it up; when you open your hand, they are satisfied with good things.
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Psalm 104:31 May the glory of the LORD endure forever; may the LORD rejoice in his works--
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Psalm 119:68 You are good, and what you do is good; teach me your decrees.
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Proverbs 16:4 The LORD works out everything to its proper end-- even the wicked for a day of disaster.
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Ecclesiastes 3:11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end.
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Can you understand what God is saying Muslim?

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#83 Jul 31, 2013
I understand it okay. It was spelled out loud and clear on 9-11!
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#84 Jul 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
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To me, an average American is dumb and his/her IQ is about 20 at the most. And I am not kidding.
Anyway, being a Singaporean my IQ stands at 103 (No: 5 in the world) and your IQ stands at 98 (No: 19 in the world).
Trust me!
http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm
This has to be one of the dumbest posts I ever read.

Try and see how many individual examples of stupidity you can find in it.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#85 Jul 31, 2013
I can read wrote:
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This has to be one of the dumbest posts I ever read.
Try and see how many individual examples of stupidity you can find in it.
As for you, an average British is also dumb and his/her IQ is about 20 at the most. And I am not kidding.

Your post affirms my conclusion.
Proud American

Indianapolis, IN

#86 Jul 31, 2013
SherylReal wrote:
I understand it okay. It was spelled out loud and clear on 9-11!
Exactly. Everything I need to know about the "religion of peace" I learned on 9-11. And so did the rest of the civilized world.
Giggs

Basingstoke, UK

#87 Jul 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
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As for you, an average British is also dumb and his/her IQ is about 20 at the most. And I am not kidding.
Your post affirms my conclusion.
mine is 137.
Proud American

Indianapolis, IN

#88 Jul 31, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
As for you, an average British is also dumb and his/her IQ is about 20 at the most. And I am not kidding.
Your post affirms my conclusion.
And yet Britain is one of the greatest countries in the world while virtually every Muslim country is a sh$thole.

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