Does the quran talk about Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel + Seth

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porpixi

Livingston, UK

#1 Sep 6, 2007
Does the quran talk about Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel + Seth?

Do you have some quotes from your book for me to read?
Brit

New York, NY

#2 Sep 6, 2007
it does, in a very obscure way, you will have to dig.
I will give you a hint - there is a verse where it says Allah did not accept the offering by the sinner. That verse meant one of the brother who killed the other.
I do not believe it mentions there name in the Quran at all.
Brit

New York, NY

#3 Sep 6, 2007
Bootm line is : without the Bible, Quran cannot explained.

In other words if the Bible and the Torah would have never existed, Quranic stories neve could have been explained by the muslims or by Muhammad at all.
Brit

New York, NY

#4 Sep 6, 2007
Oh by the way, the reference about Adam and Eve in Quran is not copied from regular Bible, but rather from a heretical text called "The Story of Adam and Eve", that one have slightly different counter of Adam and Eve which does not match with pre-existing Jews scripture where Adam and Eve origially described.

"Story of Adam and Eve" was written by a heretical Jews group living in isolation.
Mansoor

Pakistan

#5 Sep 6, 2007
Topic:Does the Quran talk about Adam and Eve's children?

Ofcourse.

Read Noble Quran 5:27-32

27. Recite to them the truth Of the story of the two sons Of Adam. Behold! they each Presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, But not from the other. Said the latter:'Be sure I will slay thee.''Surely,' Said the former,'Allah Doth accept of the sacrifice Of those who are righteous.

28.'If thou dost stretch thy hand Against me, to slay me, It is not for me to stretch My hand against thee To slay thee: for I do fear Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds.

29.'For me, I intend to let Thee draw on thyself My sin as well as thine, For thou wilt be among The Companions of the Fire, And that is the reward Of those who do wrong.

30. The (selfish) soul of the other Led him to the murder Of his brother: he murdered Him, and became (himself) One of the lost ones.

31. The Allah sent a raven, Who scratched the ground, To show him how to hide The shame of his brother.'Woe is me!' said he; 'Was I not even able To be as this raven, And to hide the shame Of my brother?' Then he became Full of regrets --

32. On that account: We ordained For the Children of Israel That if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. The although there came To them Our Messengers With clear Sings, yet, Even after that, many Of them continued to commit Excess in the land.
Brit

New York, NY

#6 Sep 6, 2007
Mansoor wrote:
Topic:Does the Quran talk about Adam and Eve's children?
Ofcourse.
Read Noble Quran 5:27-32
27. Recite to them the truth Of the story of the two sons Of Adam. Behold! they each Presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, But not from the other. Said the latter:'Be sure I will slay thee.''Surely,' Said the former,'Allah Doth accept of the sacrifice Of those who are righteous.
28.'If thou dost stretch thy hand Against me, to slay me, It is not for me to stretch My hand against thee To slay thee: for I do fear Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds.
29.'For me, I intend to let Thee draw on thyself My sin as well as thine, For thou wilt be among The Companions of the Fire, And that is the reward Of those who do wrong.
30. The (selfish) soul of the other Led him to the murder Of his brother: he murdered Him, and became (himself) One of the lost ones.
31. The Allah sent a raven, Who scratched the ground, To show him how to hide The shame of his brother.'Woe is me!' said he; 'Was I not even able To be as this raven, And to hide the shame Of my brother?' Then he became Full of regrets --
32. On that account: We ordained For the Children of Israel That if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. The although there came To them Our Messengers With clear Sings, yet, Even after that, many Of them continued to commit Excess in the land.
Mansoor, I already agreed that this part is in Quran even before you pasted this verses.

Poster asked if the names of Adam's children was there, but aparently, no, not in Quran.

But here is the question for you Mansoor.

If Adam and Eve had ONLY 2 SONS according to Quran, then where does their decendant come from?

(Please answer this question as if Bible or Torah did not exists).
Mansoor

Islamabad, Pakistan

#7 Sep 7, 2007
Brit wrote:
<quoted text>
Poster asked if the names of Adam's children was there, but aparently, no, not in Quran.
But here is the question for you Mansoor.
If Adam and Eve had ONLY 2 SONS according to Quran, then where does their decendant come from?
(Please answer this question as if Bible or Torah did not exists).
Response to Brit

1 of all,no where in Quran and hadith it is written that Adam and Eve had "ONLY 2 SONS"

Quran only describes the story of 2 sons of Adam and Eve (Sura 5:27-32)

Why this story is described?

The purpose of mentioning this particular incident is to reproach the Jews subtly for the plot they had hatched to assassinate the Prophet (peace be on him) and some of his illustrious Companions.


Mansoor

Islamabad, Pakistan

#8 Sep 7, 2007
Brit wrote:
<quoted text>
Poster asked if the names of Adam's children was there, but aparently, no, not in Quran.
But here is the question for you Mansoor.
If Adam and Eve had ONLY 2 SONS according to Quran, then where does their decendant come from?
(Please answer this question as if Bible or Torah did not exists).
Further(i want to add this statement)
Yes,Quran donot say that Adam and Eve had "ONLY 2 CHILDREN"
As i said,Quran is describing story of 2 sons of Adam and Eve.
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Templar

Chisinau, Moldova

#9 Sep 7, 2007
Mansoor wrote:
<quoted text>
Further(i want to add this statement)
Yes,Quran donot say that Adam and Eve had "ONLY 2 CHILDREN"
As i said,Quran is describing story of 2 sons of Adam and Eve.
----------continue----------
How many children did they have? What were their names?
Mansoor

Islamabad, Pakistan

#10 Sep 7, 2007
Response to Templar

Quran only describes the story of 2 sons of Adam and Eve (Sura 5:27-32)

Why this story is described?

The purpose of mentioning this particular incident is to reproach the Jews subtly for the plot they had hatched to assassinate the Prophet (peace be on him) and some of his illustrious Companions.

Now what are their names?

According to Islamic tradition,and Biblical tradition

Their names are Abel + Seth

But Adam and Eve more children according to Islamic and Biblical tradition
Templar

Chisinau, Moldova

#11 Sep 7, 2007
Mansoor wrote:
Response to Templar
Quran only describes the story of 2 sons of Adam and Eve (Sura 5:27-32)
Why this story is described?
The purpose of mentioning this particular incident is to reproach the Jews subtly for the plot they had hatched to assassinate the Prophet (peace be on him) and some of his illustrious Companions.
Now what are their names?
According to Islamic tradition,and Biblical tradition
Their names are Abel + Seth
But Adam and Eve more children according to Islamic and Biblical tradition
Yeah, illustrious Companions.:))
What did they expected from the Jews whom mohamid and his illustrious companions slaughtered and enslaved?
That Jewish girl who poisoned him had the right and the duty to kill those who butchered her people.
OMG

Hove, UK

#14 Apr 12, 2011
Replay to Brit... looool Read the question again mate.

"Does the Quran talk about Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel + Seth?

Do you have some quotes from your book for me to read? "

It does not say...

Brit: "Poster asked if the names of Adam's children was there, but apparently, no, not in Quran."

To help you out... The question asked by the Poster was if the Quran "Talks" about the children of Adam and Eve, NOT whether their names were there or not, as youíve somehow misunderstood the question to be asking.

Whether the Quran does or doesnít is irrelevant to me right now.
I havenít read the Quran in-depth. But I found it funny how you "tried" to look smart, by trying to make it look like Mansoor hadnít understood the question. At least he was reference what he was saying.
Its funny how many people on this planet try to talk about issues they have no understanding of. Itís so obvious your (brit) prejudice and bias... AND very DISRESPECTFUL
I stopped reading the post after I got to your last one I think.

Brit:ďBootm line is : without the Bible, Quran cannot explained.

In other words if the Bible and the Torah would have never existed, Quranic stories neve could have been explained by the muslims or by Muhammad at all.Ē
Mate do some real research and then come on here even before you think about disrespecting a holy book and prophet.

Just one issue to what you are saying on the above quote: basically you want to say that the Quran is not Gods book, and it is nothing without the Bible or the Torah? Mate you are UNEDUCATED to the limits your mind can take. Those people that follow the Quran are brought up to respect other people, to be kind to the Jewish and Christians. But the opposite I canít say the same about, and that is the truth (for the majority). How can you disrespect the Quran like that when you donít have any actual knowledge about the religion?
Mate that Bible you defend so courageously and make it look like its perfect... NOW THATS SOME FUNNY DOO DOO coming from your fingers.
Iíll give you one single issue as an example why you canít disrespect the Quran like that.

First of all Ė How many Bibles are there?(Donít forget the bible is ďsupposeĒ to be godís word/message (however you want to put it)

For example: The King James Version, It is made up of 66 books to form its form of the Bible.
Another: The Roman Catholic Version, It is made up of 73 books to form its form of the Bible.

Those are just two different versions. LOOK at the difference. HOW can the book of god ďthe Holy BibleĒ Have different versions- Both with different amounts of books (in other words, saying extra and or less and different things). Itís just obvious with even that little proof that the bible has been altered over and over 10s of centuries till today. Not just by books but also phrases and passages in those books.
Isnít it suppose to be godís word, and isnít it suppose to be THE BIBLE and not BIBLEíS
You can simple find out whether the information Iíve given above is true or not by searching:
ďHow many books are in the King James Bible?Ē
ďHow many books are there in the Catholic Bible?Ē
Or just getting them both and counting how many there are for yourself.

If you want to learn something learn it properly, and then, after, if you want to talk about an issue, not just THIS (about the Quran) but any other subject LEARN to talk about it in a respectful un-offensive manner.

Iím presuming the POSTER in good heart just wanted to learn something that he/she didnít have knowledge over. I advice non bias people should answer questions - with references to what they are talking about,(NOT just on this case (question) but any other issue), in all fairness. If thatís not the case, I donít think anyone should even comment, if not in a positive educational means of manner to at least direct where a person may find answers from (positive or Negative).

Peace be upon you.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#15 Apr 12, 2011
You resurected a thread that hasn't been used in nearly 4 years. Bored much?
JustToPointOut

Hove, UK

#16 Apr 13, 2011
Ravenclaw wrote:
You resurected a thread that hasn't been used in nearly 4 years. Bored much?
loool Yeah tell me about it.. actually i was bored,5am in the morning lool coulnt sleep so i thought hey what the heck lol. I just thought it was funny and couldnt prevent myself from sending a post.
Alen

Wolverhampton, UK

#17 Apr 14, 2011
porpixi wrote:
Does the quran talk about Adam and Eve's children: Cain, Abel + Seth?
Do you have some quotes from your book for me to read?
17:70

Yusuf Ali: We have honoured the sons of Adam; provided them with transport on land and sea; given them for sustenance things good and pure; and conferred on them special favours, above a great part of our creation.
Simondo

UK

#18 Aug 21, 2011
OMG
Your so subjective n you can't see it. Of course Bible has changed, language changes!! For example We don't say the words thee and thou etc.. As Christians we don't believe that the manuscripts are the important parts but the contents and what they are telling us ( which are relevant for every age but need need to be understood in cultures with very different customs and traditions). That we update the language used shows it's authenticity for all ages. The Quoran on the other hand is a relic from the 6th/7th century which when read needs to be understood by being explained in great detail in the light of the bible and the Torah and a host of other commentaries . If you didn't need it explaining and people who read the Quran recieved immediate understanding then your argument about the Bible would stand but the reality is the Quran is a book which does need extensive explaining . Therefor your argument is very hypocritical. If you understood the account of Cain and Abel ( man made religion of doing stuff for God in ones own effort and intellect represented by Cains offering versus God's blood required sacrifice that he alone could provide to redeem mankind) you would realise that God is in Jesus as the living word that is not limited to a book ( made by human hands in a printers factory). It is about a circumcision of the heart recieved by faith not circumcision done by human hands.
Simondo

UK

#19 Aug 22, 2011
To help you out... The question asked by the Poster was if the Quran "Talks" about the children of Adam and Eve, NOT whether their names were there or not, as youíve somehow misunderstood the question to be asking.
Whether the Quran does or doesnít is irrelevant to me right now.
I havenít read the Quran in-depth. But I found it funny how you "tried" to look smart, by trying to make it look like Mansoor hadnít understood the question. At least he was reference what he was saying.
Its funny how many people on this planet try to talk about issues they have no understanding of. Itís so obvious your (brit) prejudice and bias... AND very DISRESPECTFUL
I stopped reading the post after I got to your last one I think.
Brit:ďBootm line is : without the Bible, Quran cannot explained.
In other words if the Bible and the Torah would have never existed, Quranic stories neve could have been explained by the muslims or by Muhammad at all.Ē
ght up to respect other people, to be kind to the Jewish and Christians. But the opposite I canít say the same about, and that is the truth (for the majority). How can you disrespect the Quran like that when you donít have any actual knowledge about the religion?
Mate that Bible you defend so courageously and make it look like its perfect... NOW THATS SOME FUNNY DOO DOO coming from your fingers.
Iíll give you one single issue as an example why you canít disrespect the Quran like that.
First of all Ė How many Bibles are there?(Donít forget the bible is ďsupposeĒ to be godís word/message (however you want to put it)
For example: The King James Version, It is made up of 66 books to form its form of the Bible.
Another: The Roman Catholic Version, It is made up of 73 books to form its form of the Bible.
Those are just two different versions. LOOK at the difference. HOW can the book of god ďthe Holy BibleĒ Have different versions- Both with different amounts of books (in other words, saying extra and or less and different things).
Your so subjective n you can't see it. Of course Bible has changed, language changes!! For example We don't say the words thee and thou etc.. As Christians we don't believe that the manuscripts are the important parts but the contents and what they are telling us ( which are relevant for every age but need need to be understood in cultures with very different customs and traditions). That we update the language used shows it's authenticity for all ages. The Quoran on the other hand is a relic from the 6th/7th century which when read needs to be understood by being explained in great detail in the light of the bible and the Torah and a host of other commentaries . If you didn't need it explaining and people who read the Quran recieved immediate understanding then your argument about the Bible would stand but the reality is the Quran is a book which does need extensive explaining . Therefor your argument is very hypocritical. If you understood the account of Cain and Abel ( man made religion of doing stuff for God in ones own effort and intellect represented by Cains offering versus God's blood required sacrifice that he alone could provide to redeem mankind) you would realise that God is in Jesus as the living word that is not limited to a book ( made by human hands in a printers factory). It is about a circumcision of the heart recieved by faith not circumcision done by human hands.
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Irfan

Weston-super-mare, UK

#20 Nov 1, 2011
Yes the quran does talk about the sons of adam. The hadith explains in more detail. The sons were known as kalil and halil. Kalil murdered his brother halil and then buried him. This was possibly mentioned in the bible and torah too. After all they are the books of Allah but the bible and torah were changed to match the needs of the elders around at the time of these holy books. The REAL bible and torah clearly explained that a final prophet by the name of Muhammed (pbuh) would come to earth with Allah's true message. Its time to believe people. Please don't make the same mistake some of our ancestors made i.e the people of noah, the people of aad and the people of thamud aswell as many others. Allah the almighty has left signs on earth to show us the right path. Look for the signs. Don't let the devil whisper in your ear. The devil has sworn that he will be the open enemy of all mankind and this mentioned in all holy books. May Allah forhive us and guide us to the true path. Ameen
Irfan

Weston-super-mare, UK

#21 Nov 2, 2011
Correction. Sons of adam were qabil and habil. Typing error. Sorry
ABC

India

#22 Nov 2, 2011
Irfan wrote:
Correction. Sons of adam were qabil and habil. Typing error. Sorry
How did the human race propogate?

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