the bible says the sun is moving aro...

“Truth prevails”

Since: Sep 07

Bangladesh

#44 Nov 3, 2007
Igor Trip wrote:
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These translators disagree.
021.033
YUSUFALI: It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
PICKTHAL: And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.
SHAKIR: And He it is Who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all (orbs) travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres.
Quote just one Islamic scholar whoever said this verse states the sun rotates on its axis.
Just one.
From those, how you can imagine that The Sun rotates around the Earth.

is there any clue ?..

Nopes!!

Then , how come you tried to come to that conclusion in one of your posts in this thread.!!!????!!

If you read the verse then there it is clearly mentioned that "They flooat"/"they swim"/"they travel along swiftly"..all have potential one meaning...

so,where is your logic!!..

“Truth prevails”

Since: Sep 07

Bangladesh

#45 Nov 3, 2007
Trisha wrote:
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Exactly right. You are not attacking the Bible. As I stated, you're 'TRYING' to attack it, or more specifically the faith, you believe, that Christians put in it.
That's ok, keep it up, and we will continue to laugh at you. lol!
When anyone is embarrassed , then he/she has no option but to show his/her 32 teeth and have a laugh that is full of folly.

So, you are categorizing yourself like that, arent you ????!!

LoL..

truth prevails.and Islam is the truth.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#46 Nov 3, 2007
Rimon1 wrote:
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When anyone is embarrassed , then he/she has no option but to show his/her 32 teeth and have a laugh that is full of folly.
So, you are categorizing yourself like that, arent you ????!!
LoL..
truth prevails.and Islam is the truth.
I'm sure you just don't realize how immature that sounds.

Poor thing..

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#47 Nov 3, 2007
Rimon1 wrote:
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From those, how you can imagine that The Sun rotates around the Earth.
is there any clue ?..
Nopes!!
Then , how come you tried to come to that conclusion in one of your posts in this thread.!!!????!!
If you read the verse then there it is clearly mentioned that "They flooat"/"they swim"/"they travel along swiftly"..all have potential one meaning...
so,where is your logic!!..
You forgot to state the 'meaning...'.

"swim along, each in its rounded course"
"They float, each in an orbit".
" all (orbs) travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres."

Reads like the sun going round the earth to me.

Still waiting for a quote from a scholar.
Just Me

El Cerrito, CA

#48 Nov 3, 2007
zap wrote:
We don't see the Bible the same way that you see the quran.
Just Me Just Made the understatement for the year
Thanks for listening down side up.... ZAP FAT BAT!

But what did you mean?
zap

Manchester, MI

#49 Nov 3, 2007
Type in on the bottom of the last page of Rimon1s' book JUMP OFF A CLIFF and will see what happens from there. Rimon1 is a Lemming.
OH great and powerful Bat king!

Since: Dec 06

Pakistan

#50 Nov 4, 2007
Igor Trip wrote:
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These translators disagree.
021.033
YUSUFALI: It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
PICKTHAL: And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.
SHAKIR: And He it is Who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all (orbs) travel along swiftly in their celestial spheres.
Quote just one Islamic scholar whoever said this verse states the sun rotates on its axis.
Just one.
Seen in Quran...

Surah Yaseen 36 Ayah 38: and sun goes on on its own orbit .... till end of the ayah.
Ayah 39 and moon
zap

Manchester, MI

#51 Nov 4, 2007
Rimon is busy writing his own Bible. THE BOOK OF RIMON. That way it's a whole lot easier when you make it up as you go! RIGHT RIMON1?!!

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#52 Nov 4, 2007
Muhammad Umer wrote:
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Seen in Quran...
Surah Yaseen 36 Ayah 38: and sun goes on on its own orbit .... till end of the ayah.
Ayah 39 and moon
Sorry you have lost me.

What orbit are we talking about here?
Jose

Saint Louis, MO

#55 Jan 2, 2013
The bible says something about a circuit: David describes the rotation of the earth from the viewpoint of a man on earth and is not teaching that the sun revolves around the earth. By comparison we use words like "sunrise" and "sunset" to describethe earth's rotation when technically the sun does neither.
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#57 Jan 2, 2013
GOD WASN'T INTERESTED IN GIVING US A SCIENCE ENCYCLOPEDIA!!!!!!!!!!
SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE IS AVAILABLE TO SATAN AS WELL!!!!!!!! and satan is more likely to use it to prove himself like a criminal!

How many times do Muslims have to be told this?
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#58 Jan 2, 2013
THE SUN MOVES!!!!!

Astronomers now know that the Sun moves in a gigantic orbit around the center of the Milky Way galaxy; traveling at 600,000 miles an hour it would take the Sun 230 million years to make just one orbit!
It also is believed that our galaxy is moving with respect to other galaxies in the Universe. The Sun’s going forth is indeed from one end of the heavens to the other. In any case, there is no way to substantiate the claims that the Bible teaches geocentricity, or that it promotes any other anti-scientific concept.
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#59 Jan 2, 2013
Rimon1 wrote:
<quoted text>Only a fool would look up at the sky and say that the sun did not move! These phenomena are simply due to Earth?s rotation and NOT by Sun?s rotation.
AND GOD LOVED THOSE WHO SPOKE POETICALLY ie "SUNRISE", "SUNSET", AND DIDN'T SEE THE NEED TO PROVE THEM WRONG BECAUSE THEY HAD NO WAY OF CHECKING!!!!!!!!

And anyway He didn't want to prove Himself with knowledge that satan has too! God doesn't need to prove Himself like a criminal!
Seriously

Netherlands

#60 Jan 2, 2013
Rimon1 wrote:
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From those, how you can imagine that The Sun rotates around the Earth.
is there any clue ?..
Nopes!!
Then , how come you tried to come to that conclusion in one of your posts in this thread.!!!????!!
If you read the verse then there it is clearly mentioned that "They flooat"/"they swim"/"they travel along swiftly"..all have potential one meaning...
so,where is your logic!!..
The earth rotates on its axis, bringing about day and night.(Ge 1:4, 5) A solar day or an apparent day is a period of 24 hours, the time taken for an observer at any one point on the earth to be again in the same position relative to the sun. The tropical year, which concerns the return of the seasons, the interval between two consecutive returns of the sun to the vernal equinox, is 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 46 seconds, on the average. This figure is the one used in solar-year calendar reckoning, and its fractional nature has caused much difficulty in accurate calendar making.


The axis of the earth tilts 23° 27&#8242; away from a perpendicular to the earth’s orbit. The gyroscopic effect of rotation holds the earth’s axis in basically the same direction relative to the stars regardless of its location in its orbit around the sun. This tilt of the axis brings about the seasons.


The earth’s atmosphere, composed principally of nitrogen, oxygen, water vapor, and other gases, extends over 960 km (600 mi) above the earth’s surface. Beyond this is what is termed “outer space.”


Bible Terms and Significance. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used for earth as a planet is &#700;e&#8242;rets. &#700;E&#8242;rets refers to (1) earth, as opposed to heaven, or sky (Ge 1:2); (2) land, country, territory (Ge 10:10); (3) ground, surface of the ground (Ge 1:26); (4) people of all the globe (Ge 18:25).


The word &#700;adha·mah&#8242; is translated “ground,”“soil,” or “land.” &#700;Adha·mah&#8242; refers to (1) ground as tilled, yielding sustenance (Ge 3:23); (2) piece of ground, landed property (Ge 47:18); (3) earth as material substance, soil, dirt (Jer 14:4; 1Sa 4:12); (4) ground as earth’s visible surface (Ge 1:25); (5) land, territory, country (Le 20:24); (6) whole earth, inhabited earth (Ge 12:3). &#700;Adha·mah&#8242; seems to be related etymologically to the word &#700;a·dham&#8242;, the first man Adam having been made from the dust of the ground.—Ge 2:7.
Seriously

Netherlands

#61 Jan 2, 2013
Rimon1 wrote:
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From those, how you can imagine that The Sun rotates around the Earth.
is there any clue ?..
Nopes!!
Then , how come you tried to come to that conclusion in one of your posts in this thread.!!!????!!
If you read the verse then there it is clearly mentioned that "They flooat"/"they swim"/"they travel along swiftly"..all have potential one meaning...
so,where is your logic!!..
Why does the Quran describe the Earth as flat so many times?

The Shape of the Earth
The following is a list of the verses referring to the shape of earth. The Arabic words used in the Quran are also mentioned.
Q. 13:3 And He it is who hath outstretched the earth, and placed on it the firm mountains Madda
Q. 15:19 And the earth have WE spread out Madadnaha
Q. 20:53 [since he is the One] Who has laid out the earth as a carpet for you Mahdan`
Q2:22 Who made the earth a bed for you, and the heaven a roof Firasha
Q. 43:10 (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out Mahdan
Q. 50:6-7 What, have they not beheld heaven above them, how we have built it, and decked it out fair, and it has no cracks? And the earth -- We stretched it forth, and cast on it firm mountains, and we caused to grow therein of every joyous kind Madadnaha
Q. 51:48 And the earth we have spread out, and how excellently do we spread it out! Farashnaha
Q. 71:19 And God has laid the earth for you as a carpet Bisata
Q. 78:6 Have WE not made the earth as a bed, And the mountains as pegs Mihada
Q. 79:27-30 What, are you stronger in constitution or the heaven He built? He lifted up its vault, and levelled it, and darkened its night, and brought forth its forenoon; and the earth - after that He spread it out, Dahaha

Q. 88:20 Nor even how the earth has been flattened out? Sutehat

Q. 91:5-6 By the heaven and that which built it and by the earth and That which extended it! Tahaha

Quran described the shape of earth using the following Arabic words:
Madda, Madadnaha, Firasha, Mahdan, Farashnaha, Bisata, Mihada, Dahaha, Tahaha and Sutehat.

All mean flat! How many more synonyms of flat should it have to use?

Also, once the Quran called Earth "egg shaped" but which bird's egg looks like the Earth?

Why does the Quran call the Earth flat so many times or Egg shaped once although Indian & Greek mathematicians had discovered that its round a 1000 years before Islam?
muslim

London, UK

#62 Jan 2, 2013
Where are u standing on is it flat?

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#63 Jan 3, 2013
Nowhere does the Quran say the earth is egg shaped. "Dahaha" means spread out not egg shaped. It's a related but different world that's supposed to mean egg.
muslim

Grimsby, UK

#64 Jan 11, 2013
jesus is wrote:
GOD WASN'T INTERESTED IN GIVING US A SCIENCE ENCYCLOPEDIA!!!!!!!!!!
SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE IS AVAILABLE TO SATAN AS WELL!!!!!!!! and satan is more likely to use it to prove himself like a criminal!
How many times do Muslims have to be told this?
God doesn’t die half naked pinned 2 a cross, only satan followers wil come up with something like dat!
allertion

Howell, MI

#65 Feb 19, 2013
you believe in this crap?? sheesh..

people had to get tortured and conquered to even learn about this ..!!
allertion

Howell, MI

#66 Feb 19, 2013
you die you come back to life in another world that is identical but with different parameters an infinite number of times this happens end of story..

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