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mrsliberal

Skokie, IL

#82 May 6, 2009
My religion shaped me by teaching me that all mankind has choice and I should be able to accept that all others will not come to the same conclusions that I do. Additionally, religion and lack of it, along with a very liberal education, allowing me all
pathways of exploration, taught me much of religion is a choice.

It also taught me to find similarities between people and respect them instead of finding differences and focusing on them.
mrsliberal

Skokie, IL

#83 May 6, 2009
Deva wrote:
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There are people who have'nt even heard of the Christ. Do you think they're going to hell
Of course not.

Being a good and empathic person is more important than believing in Christ, Hell or any such irrelevant concept. One can be a good person without a specific belief system as long as they don't reach out to harm others in the stupid concept of I am right and you aren't, thus I can harm you.

Only supporting those who believe as you do is evil.

Our country laws should be based on commonality, not differences. Our country should support this and we will not have terrorism, controlled thought nor resent these differences.
mrsliberal

Skokie, IL

#84 May 6, 2009
Tinkerbell wrote:
So you agree there is spirituality. Very good! For a moment I thought you believed we were mindless creatures randomly roaming the earth.****! Do you think Mother Nature is perfect? Do you believe Mother Nature is trying to teach us anything?
No I do not think mother nature is perfect although I do think pure logic teaches us that we CANNOT randomly roam the earth without some
law and commonality and respect for the others.

Common understanding of words can help. This comes with communication,
and respect and knowledge
mahomet

Salisbury, MD

#85 May 6, 2009
mrsliberal wrote:
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Of course not.
Being a good and empathic person is more important than believing in Christ, Hell or any such irrelevant concept. One can be a good person without a specific belief system as long as they don't reach out to harm others in the stupid concept of I am right and you aren't, thus I can harm you.
Only supporting those who believe as you do is evil.
Our country laws should be based on commonality, not differences. Our country should support this and we will not have terrorism, controlled thought nor resent these differences.
lol I KNOW! That question was to devout Christians who still believe Jesus Christ is the sole way to salvation.

Any religion that divides humanity into 'believers/right path' and non believers/infidels/wrong path', should be wiped off earth. Everyone knows that religion has caused more warfare and bloodshed than anything else
Spring

Hamar, Norway

#86 May 7, 2009
Tinkerbell wrote:
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The arrogance of man is going to get us all killed. We will be our own demise. We merely inhabit the earth. We are not the driving force. We cant even cure cancer...muchless the common cold and many wish to believe we are masters of the universe. LOLLOLLOL On the other hand, Mother nature can simultaneous bring a smile to millions of people faces...with a single ray of sunshine. Until we can accomplish such simple wonders...I suggest we all sit back down,take our proper seats and start respecting Mother Earth and learn to live in harmony.
What you say is true; we are arrogantly placing ourselves in the centre of the world, the centre of attraction.

Seen from inside our world looks big and great because it is all so near and it is all at our size, but seen from the moon it looks all different, don’t to mention further out!
In reality we are as important as bacteria’s in a lump of old food.
Bacteria’s can’t control themselves they will just consume it all and die out.

We need to take responsibility ourselves for our small world.

We are lucky to have a brain to help us, but sorry; most of us are not willing to use it right!
Religions can’t help us here; they are hijacked by people with egocentric and strange motives.
So what we have to wait for and hope for is the united brain force of independent and high integrity people; people who care for the future of humanity.

What has made humans more successful among spices is our ability to cooperate in large groups without primarily aiming for our short term egoistic benefit in mind.
But it seems that we have not fully developed this ultimate social intelligence yet.
Evolution has got some work to do.
Spring

Hamar, Norway

#87 May 8, 2009
“Go to the ant, O sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise!”(Prov. 6. 6).

The ants are among the most successful creatures on the surface of the Earth.
You will find them everywhere and they have communities of 100 000 or so, individuals living peacefully with each others.

So why is it that they have this success?

They are all working for their common interest, no revolutions or war inside the community, no egoism, no complaints.
Every one knows their purpose in life and does what they should for their common interest.

They have a distinct leadership, the Queen, who uses chemical communication methods in organizing the community.
The decision for the purpose of every ant is given by birth, and there are no complaints on that.

Could we learn something from it, or maybe copy some for our societies?
Well, it looks as if religions are an attempt to gain a strong common leadership, but we are not like ants, we are humans born with this urge for individual success.
We have our individual way of breeding.

But we can still learn something; we should learn to know the purpose of life and work for our common interest.
No individual or personal interests should have influence on a strong and firm leadership of humanity.

Religions are and will for ever be a system created and administrated by humans and their individual interests.
We are still and will continue to be humans with our individuality strongly attached to our genes.

Isaac Asimov in the book “I, robot” wrote about the tree laws for robots to serve humans.
These are:

“A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.”

“A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the first law.”

“A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the first or second law.”

Anyone who has an idea for how to create balance in our world as it seems that humans and our religions are incapable?
Tinkerbell

Murfreesboro, TN

#88 May 9, 2009
mrsliberal wrote:
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No I do not think mother nature is perfect although I do think pure logic teaches us that we CANNOT randomly roam the earth without some
law and commonality and respect for the others.
Common understanding of words can help. This comes with communication,
and respect and knowledge
On the same token... pure logic teaches us we could not have randomly evolved either. Look at the human eye. Random events did dot create such an intricate design. The universe allows us to "see"...yet,never fully understand. We are such a fleck of existence...the best we can do is peacefully co-exist. Mother nature will wipe us off the face of the earth before we are even capable of destroying it. Its that powerful. Mother nature is always ten steps ahead of us. Hopefully anyway.......Nuclear power makes me nervous. In this respect...humans are like frat boys on an easter egg hunt searching for the golden egg. LOL

We are intelligent to a fault.....



If you see flaws in Mother nature....what you're really seeing is Mother Nature cleaning up after our messes. Thats perfection.
Tinkerbell

Murfreesboro, TN

#89 May 9, 2009
Spring wrote:
“Go to the ant, O sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise!”(Prov. 6. 6).
The ants are among the most successful creatures on the surface of the Earth.
You will find them everywhere and they have communities of 100 000 or so, individuals living peacefully with each others.
So why is it that they have this success?
They are all working for their common interest, no revolutions or war inside the community, no egoism, no complaints.
Every one knows their purpose in life and does what they should for their common interest.
They have a distinct leadership, the Queen, who uses chemical communication methods in organizing the community.
The decision for the purpose of every ant is given by birth, and there are no complaints on that.
Could we learn something from it, or maybe copy some for our societies?
Well, it looks as if religions are an attempt to gain a strong common leadership, but we are not like ants, we are humans born with this urge for individual success.
We have our individual way of breeding.
But we can still learn something; we should learn to know the purpose of life and work for our common interest.
No individual or personal interests should have influence on a strong and firm leadership of humanity.
Religions are and will for ever be a system created and administrated by humans and their individual interests.
We are still and will continue to be humans with our individuality strongly attached to our genes.
Isaac Asimov in the book “I, robot” wrote about the tree laws for robots to serve humans.
These are:
“A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.”
“A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the first law.”
“A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the first or second law.”
Anyone who has an idea for how to create balance in our world as it seems that humans and our religions are incapable?
Mother nature stands for one thing. Life. It sustains life. We take,take,take and take from the earth ,while never giving back at the same rate. Mother nature keeps the balance. Not us. Until we respect her laws we will never even begin to unlock the mysteries of life.

As far as the balance of social intelligence......you're correct. We could learn alot from ants. However,at this point we step on them just like we do Mother Nature.
Spring

Hamar, Norway

#90 May 9, 2009
Tinkerbell wrote:
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Mother nature stands for one thing. Life. It sustains life. We take,take,take and take from the earth ,while never giving back at the same rate. Mother nature keeps the balance. Not us. Until we respect her laws we will never even begin to unlock the mysteries of life.
As far as the balance of social intelligence......you're correct. We could learn alot from ants. However,at this point we step on them just like we do Mother Nature.
You are right in most ways, Mother Nature or Evolution will take the cleaning process if we are not able to control ourselves,- and we are not.
Probably a few will survive and be able to continue human life in some way.

What kind of people do you think that they will be?
What kind if skills will be favoured by Evolution?

The main problem of humans now is overpopulation, half of us living in some city community, in an asphalt jungle depending on food supply from outside.

In ancient times the death rate due to deceases, hunger and so on reduced population dramatically, a high birth rate was a success factor, and people lived closer to nature.

In modern societies advanced medicine, mechanical agriculture, fertilizer in agriculture, plenty of cheap energy and so on makes most people live safely and multiply.
This system is more fragile than we like to think, and we should immediately implement strict birth control everywhere on Mother Earth.

When Mother Nature one day strikes back on us; at that time the big number will certainly not be the most effective survival criteria.
It will be the survival of the fittest whatever that means.

This is how Mother Nature or Evolution always works by small genetic changes, sometimes not noticeable, tested against its environment to see what its success in the long term would be.

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#91 May 9, 2009
Tinkerbell wrote:
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Mother nature stands for one thing. Life. It sustains life. We take,take,take and take from the earth ,while never giving back at the same rate. Mother nature keeps the balance. Not us. Until we respect her laws we will never even begin to unlock the mysteries of life.
As far as the balance of social intelligence......you're correct. We could learn alot from ants. However,at this point we step on them just like we do Mother Nature.
Some excellent logic here! We can learn alot from many animal species, but man always thinks he's the ruler and master of the Earth. Mother Nature will soon teach us a hard lesson for all the abuses committed on the planet. Let's see the big bad moon god allah go against MOTHER Nature!LOL!!
isa

AOL

#92 Mar 10, 2010
Ian wrote:
it is it it?
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How's Christ? Are you trying to say ISA p.b.u.h?
Isa p.b.u.h (jesus) was man he wont be able to help you without gad's permission, you need to pray to gad not to the man.

“I love my total freedom..do u?”

Since: Nov 08

Jellystone National Park.

#93 Mar 10, 2010
Pray to Gad? I think you are missing an o in there..

And you dont need permission at all.
ImNotThatImNot

Blacklick, OH

#94 Oct 7, 2012
You guys are all lost...its not religion that determines your final destination, it's your heart.
Please close the Book and open your Spirit. That's all the WORD you need to follow.

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