Who said "We killed Christ"?

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Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#1 Nov 28, 2013
SURA 4:157
'That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.'

WHO SAID THIS?

NO CHRISTIAN WOULD CLAIM THEY KILLED JESUS, &
NO JEW WOULD CALL JESUS "CHRIST" OR "MESSIAH" OR "A MESSANGER OF GOD"!
NO JEW WOULD HAVE CALLED ANYONE THE SON OF A WOMAN'S NAME!

WHY DON'T YOU FOOLS ANSWER ME?
Imaduddin

Jakarta, Indonesia

#2 Nov 28, 2013
The verse was intended for the Jews and all those who conspired to kill Jesus.

What they said was a form of mockery by calling the three great attributes Jesus were known with ("al-Masih, ibn Maryam, Rasulullah) that they themselves didn't believe in.

Similar to what Pharaoh said to his people regarding Prophet Moses,

(Pharaoh) said: "Truly your Messenger who has been sent to you is a veritable madman!"
(Ash Shua'ara: 27)

And what the people of Makkah said to Prophet Muhammad,

They say: "O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad!"
(Al Hijr: 6)
Frank

Keswick, Canada

#3 Nov 28, 2013
What made the Jews want to kill Jesus?


Jesus preached-
"I and the Father are one." The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" 33The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God," (John 10:30-33)

What was it that Jesus had said or done that caused the Jews to say that He was claiming to be God? Was it "I and the Father are one"? If so, why would that cause the Jews to want to kill Jesus? Perhaps it was something else. Maybe it was something Jesus said elsewhere that made them so angry.

There are only two places in John where the Jews wanted to kill Jesus with stones. Both of these occur after Jesus spoke and made a claim about Himself. The first was in John 8:58-59 and the second was in John 10:30-33. Here is the context of both verses:
1.John 8:56-59 "Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." 57The Jews therefore said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?" 58Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." 59Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple."
2.John 10:27-36, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand. 29"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. 30"I and the Father are one." 31The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" 33The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." 34Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law,'I said, you are gods'? 35"If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36do you say of Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,'You are blaspheming,' because I said,'I am the Son of God'?"
So Jews wanted to kill Jesus because JESUS SAID HE IS THE SON OF GOD.
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#4 Nov 29, 2013
Imaduddin wrote:
<quoted text>The verse was intended for the Jews and all those who conspired to kill Jesus.
I THOUGHT THE QURAN WAS FOR ALL MANKIND, FOR ALL TIME!
No Jew thought that Jesus was their Messiah, nor a prophet of God!
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#5 Nov 29, 2013
"CHRIST" is not a name!
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#6 Nov 29, 2013
Jesus was a Jew. He was lawfully executed by the Roman authorities that ruled the Jewish Homeland Israel at that time.

Jesus was never a muslim. Islam was not invented yet. If Jesus were alive today, he'd be a Zionist. He would be flying an American made F-16 for the IAF.

Also, "palestine" and "palestinians" do not exist. It is all muslim theater designed to justify and obscure the vile anti-Semitic hatred that is endemic in the filthy and disgusting ideology of the filthy muslims.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#7 Nov 29, 2013
God and Jesus have appointed America as the Sword of Justice here on Earth. It is fitting and righteous that we punish the filthy muslims for their crimes against God and man. It's God's will.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#8 Nov 29, 2013
God is an American.
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#9 Nov 29, 2013
mp bump bump bump
warner

Ireland

#10 Nov 29, 2013
Imaduddin wrote:
The verse was intended for the Jews and all those who conspired to kill Jesus.
What they said was a form of mockery by calling the three great attributes Jesus were known with ("al-Masih, ibn Maryam, Rasulullah) that they themselves didn't believe in.
Similar to what Pharaoh said to his people regarding Prophet Moses,
(Pharaoh) said: "Truly your Messenger who has been sent to you is a veritable madman!"
(Ash Shua'ara: 27)
And what the people of Makkah said to Prophet Muhammad,
They say: "O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad!"
(Al Hijr: 6)
Let's stick to the facts of the words; they said in boast, not in mockery!
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#11 Nov 29, 2013
Jesus hates muslims.
warner

Ireland

#12 Nov 29, 2013
Faith wrote:
Jesus hates muslims.
Truth is he knows that they have been brainwashed from infancy and He has pity. However, if Muslims hurt our people each one will be judged for their Sins against God, for all sin is sin against God, but to hurt Christians is regarded by God as the most heinous of sins. I don't guess at what God will do to them, l know!

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#13 Nov 29, 2013
The Jews who called for the death of Jesus Christ did so because the understood Jesus claimed to be God.

Muslims will lie and cry but there is no changing the facts, the truth and history.
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#14 Nov 29, 2013
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BUT WHICH JEW CALLED JESUS A 'MESSENGER OF GOD'???????
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#15 Nov 29, 2013
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....AND HOW DID ALLAH PERFORM THIS GREAT DECEPTION?

Since: Jun 09

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#16 Nov 29, 2013
Trisha wrote:
The Jews who called for the death of Jesus Christ did so because the understood Jesus claimed to be God.
Muslims will lie and cry but there is no changing the facts, the truth and history.
Jesus did not claim to be God. You're an extremist if you believe Jesus was God.
He in fact told the Jews that he was ascending to his God and their God.

Since: Jun 09

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#17 Nov 29, 2013
Faith wrote:
God is an American.
God is not an American.

The man you call God was a Middle Eastener.
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#18 Nov 29, 2013
According to most historians, it would be more logical to blame the ruling Romans for Jesus' death. Crucifixion was a Roman punishment not a Jewish one.

The Romans would have had reason to want to silence Jesus, who had been called by some of his followers "King of the Jews," and was known as a Jewish upstart miracle-worker. That's why they put the sign 'King of the Jews' under the cross.

The Jews also wanted Jesus dead because of his claims to be equal with God and did nothing to save him dying on Roman cross.
Jesus Is

Sydney, Australia

#19 Nov 29, 2013
Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus did not claim to be God.
PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WAS ILLEGAL AND HE HAD TO TEACH BEFORE HE DIED!!!!!!!!
Why didn't Christians edit it in the Gospels???????
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#20 Nov 30, 2013
Sarah ___ wrote:
<quoted text>God is not an American.
The man you call God was a Middle Eastener.
No he's not. He's a Mid Westerner. He's from Indiana...I think. God is an American. That should be fairly obvious.

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