Az zaqqum koran intrepetaion, ya think?

Az zaqqum koran intrepetaion, ya think?

Created by Travel marriage on Feb 19, 2010

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No, but same level as Mutfi!

Only Ali Sina can defeat him!

Maybe he is the Mahdi

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Travel marriage

Jakarta, Indonesia

#1 Feb 19, 2010
There's a guy call az zaqqum. And i see no one can defeat debate him about koran and hadits tafseer (interpret). All Muslim can only scold him, but no single Muslim can debate him with good tafseer way. Is it because Muslim are lack skill of tafseer or Az Zaqqum is too smart. I don't know..
If no singgle muslim can beat him on tafseer skill, he deserve a title as Biggest Ayatolah hyper Mutfi Az zaqqum!
Maybe Az Zaqqum are imam Mahdi (the messias of Islam world). Who will teach muslim into right way! Maybe some Muslim think him as kafir, but remember.. according to Koran all man are born Muslim. Just because Az Zaqqum smarter than majority real Muslim, that doesn't mean become imam Mahdi. He will guide into right path according to koran!!!
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#2 Feb 19, 2010
Travel marriage wrote:
There's a guy call az zaqqum. And i see no one can defeat debate him about koran and hadits tafseer (interpret). All Muslim can only scold him, but no single Muslim can debate him with good tafseer way. Is it because Muslim are lack skill of tafseer or Az Zaqqum is too smart. I don't know..
If no singgle muslim can beat him on tafseer skill, he deserve a title as Biggest Ayatolah hyper Mutfi Az zaqqum!
Maybe Az Zaqqum are imam Mahdi (the messias of Islam world). Who will teach muslim into right way! Maybe some Muslim think him as kafir, but remember.. according to Koran all man are born Muslim. Just because Az Zaqqum smarter than majority real Muslim, that doesn't mean become imam Mahdi. He will guide into right path according to koran!!!
Salaams T.M. Lets see debate useing only Qur-an! Hehehehehe
Travel marriage

Jakarta, Indonesia

#3 Feb 19, 2010
Dear Muslim, as an ex - muslim, i will share you about little basic guide about hierarchy of islamic text. Which mean higher hierarchy of islamic text abrogate lower one.

1. Koran
2. Sahih Bukhari
3. Sahih Muslim
4. Sunan al-Sughra
5. Sunan Abu Dawood
6. Sunan al-Tirmidhi
7. Maybe Al-Muwatta or Sunan Ibn Majah or Sunan al-Darami
8. So on until Maudu hadit (weak hadit)

Which this basic principle, you can question a fatwa. Is this fatwa backed by sahih hadit or maudu.
If fatwa backed by maudu, you don't need to follow it. If the fatwa backed by strong hadit, you can debate the fatwa with stronger hadit.
In conclusion, if there are two contradict hadit. Higher hierarchy of islamic text will win.
Travel marriage

Jakarta, Indonesia

#4 Feb 19, 2010
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text> Salaams T.M. Lets see debate useing only Qur-an! Hehehehehe
As long i know, there is no single muslim can debate him back! But my favorite Az Zaqqum's debate opponent are Israelity and Aswad!!! Both of them sooo funny, they never use good manner tafseer skill. Both of them can only trash talk!
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#5 Feb 19, 2010
Travel marriage wrote:
Dear Muslim, as an ex - muslim, i will share you about little basic guide about hierarchy of islamic text. Which mean higher hierarchy of islamic text abrogate lower one.
1. Koran
2. Sahih Bukhari
3. Sahih Muslim
4. Sunan al-Sughra
5. Sunan Abu Dawood
6. Sunan al-Tirmidhi
7. Maybe Al-Muwatta or Sunan Ibn Majah or Sunan al-Darami
8. So on until Maudu hadit (weak hadit)
Which this basic principle, you can question a fatwa. Is this fatwa backed by sahih hadit or maudu.
If fatwa backed by maudu, you don't need to follow it. If the fatwa backed by strong hadit, you can debate the fatwa with stronger hadit.
In conclusion, if there are two contradict hadit. Higher hierarchy of islamic text will win.
Salaams T.M. your list of Qur-an etc. is most appreciated. I am interested if you can give simple example of each.and how it may compare to Qur-an. And yes their debates get quite colourful LOL! Must sine-Off Maxa-Salaama
Az Zaqqum

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Feb 19, 2010
Hey Thanks Travel Marriage! That was totally cool! I pulled a few of these from my book, The humor of islam...you'll die laughing.

Sahi Bukhari;
If a dog, a donkey or a woman pass in front of the praying people, prayer is annulled.
Aw geez

Based on Sahih Bukhari and a Muslim;
The Hadith that lists the greatest sins; shirk comes first and murder comes after it. So the crime of murder is not as grave as the crime of shirk. Any Muslim who committed terrorist acts and subsequently does go to the hell-fire, wont abide in there forever...for the hell-fire for any Muslim that go there, is only a temporary abode, and once all their sins have been purged in it, they’re going to be entered into Paradise.”

Sahi Bukhari;
People ruled by a woman will never be successful.
But the Quran says....
27:23 Lo! I found a woman ruling over them, and she hath been given abundance of all things, and hers is a mighty throne

Sahih Moslem;
Abu Saeed AL-Khudry said the prophet once saw a sputum in the Quibla of the Masjid, he cleaned it then told us not to spit on our right side or to the front, but we should spit on the left side or under the left foot.
ick

Muslim added
"It is your duty to kill the jet-black dog having two spots on the eyes for it is a devil.
Technically speaking, wouldn’t it be a Jinn?

Abu Dawood;
"Aiesha reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said:'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands
pervert

Sunaan Abu Dawud;
Women would have been commanded to prostrate before their husbands, had anyone be commanded to make prostration before another.
That's only because Islam gave more rights to Muslim women
Abu Dawood;

Cupping is the best medicine. Mohammed said that if anyone gets themselves cupped on the 17th, 19th, or 21 of the month, it will be a remedy for every disease.
I wonder if my doctor knows this…?

Nisaa and Tirmithi;
This is the best and most correct saying in this matter because it is better to guard and protect him from being splashed with his own urine.’
And the debate continues today

al-Tirmidhi, dawwood and muslim started the no laughing law of sharia.

I'll also add that all the above have unreliable hadith :D

Thanks again Traveler!
Btw, today is Freaky Fatwa Friday. I'll be posting 2 later today.
Az Zaqqum

Phoenix, AZ

#7 Feb 19, 2010
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text> Salaams T.M. Lets see debate useing only Qur-an! Hehehehehe
Bring it!

“PARADOX”

Since: Sep 08

Moon

#8 Feb 19, 2010
PISSING OFF the beheaded "Az Zaqqum" according to nonsense SCIENCE!!!!
BY:"BLESSED LUNATIC WISEMAN"!
**********
Az Zaqqum wrote:
Hey Thanks Travel Marriage! That was totally cool! I pulled a few of these from my book, The humor of islam...you'll die laughing.
Sahi Bukhari;
If a dog, a donkey or a woman pass in front of the praying people, prayer is annulled.
Aw geez
Based on Sahih Bukhari and a Muslim;
The Hadith that lists the greatest sins; shirk comes first and murder comes after it. So the crime of murder is not as grave as the crime of shirk. Any Muslim who committed terrorist acts and subsequently does go to the hell-fire, wont abide in there forever...for the hell-fire for any Muslim that go there, is only a temporary abode, and once all their sins have been purged in it, they’re going to be entered into Paradise.”
Sahi Bukhari;
People ruled by a woman will never be successful.
But the Quran says....
27:23 Lo! I found a woman ruling over them, and she hath been given abundance of all things, and hers is a mighty throne
Sahih Moslem;
Abu Saeed AL-Khudry said the prophet once saw a sputum in the Quibla of the Masjid, he cleaned it then told us not to spit on our right side or to the front, but we should spit on the left side or under the left foot.
ick
Muslim added
"It is your duty to kill the jet-black dog having two spots on the eyes for it is a devil.
Technically speaking, wouldn’t it be a Jinn?
Abu Dawood;
"Aiesha reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said:'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands
pervert
Sunaan Abu Dawud;
Women would have been commanded to prostrate before their husbands, had anyone be commanded to make prostration before another.
That's only because Islam gave more rights to Muslim women
Abu Dawood;
Cupping is the best medicine. Mohammed said that if anyone gets themselves cupped on the 17th, 19th, or 21 of the month, it will be a remedy for every disease.
I wonder if my doctor knows this…?
Nisaa and Tirmithi;
This is the best and most correct saying in this matter because it is better to guard and protect him from being splashed with his own urine.’
And the debate continues today
al-Tirmidhi, dawwood and muslim started the no laughing law of sharia.
I'll also add that all the above have unreliable hadith :D
Thanks again Traveler!
Btw, today is Freaky Fatwa Friday. I'll be posting 2 later today.
Dear "Az-Zaqqum" drinking the "spittle"!
Greetings;

I usually behead myself by my own hands.As I see you're being beheaded by the hands of mirrors!!

Anyway...

A)YOU and the CAT's anus!
I suggest you to "sew" your head over your neck with a "thread".The thread should be made from the "rectum" of a cat;or even the "small intestine" of a dog.The cat of course should be dead.You may use it in your "suture needle" instead.

B)YOU and the PISS!
You may love to drink the piss of a few bacterias to immunize yourself.Honey too is useful,if you're being weaked after being beheaded.

What a wonderful spititing!!the spit of a bee spiting right in your mouth.

C)YOU and the SPIT!
You may be wrapped then in a swaddle,made from silk;as the spit of a silk worm.

What a lovely "pissed off" you are.
You're head is on your body once more!!

Yours/"Blessed Lunatic Wiseman"(the nonsense/serious/humorous)!
Az Zaqqum

Phoenix, AZ

#9 Feb 19, 2010
Blessed Lunatic Wiseman wrote:
PISSING OFF the beheaded "Az Zaqqum" according to nonsense SCIENCE!!!!
BY:"BLESSED LUNATIC WISEMAN"!
**********
<quoted text>
Dear "Az-Zaqqum" drinking the "spittle"!
Greetings;
I usually behead myself by my own hands.As I see you're being beheaded by the hands of mirrors!!
Anyway...
A)YOU and the CAT's anus!
I suggest you to "sew" your head over your neck with a "thread".The thread should be made from the "rectum" of a cat;or even the "small intestine" of a dog.The cat of course should be dead.You may use it in your "suture needle" instead.
B)YOU and the PISS!
You may love to drink the piss of a few bacterias to immunize yourself.Honey too is useful,if you're being weaked after being beheaded.
What a wonderful spititing!!the spit of a bee spiting right in your mouth.
C)YOU and the SPIT!
You may be wrapped then in a swaddle,made from silk;as the spit of a silk worm.
What a lovely "pissed off" you are.
You're head is on your body once more!!
Yours/"Blessed Lunatic Wiseman"(the nonsense/serious/humorous)!
Aw geez, did I actually PISS OFF a lunatic?
lol, I noticed you couldn't debunk my post and resorted to insults...now is that what Muhammad would have done? shame on you
:D

Az Zaqqum Islamic Scholar for the Infidel
ha
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#10 Feb 19, 2010
Az Zaqqum wrote:
<quoted text>
Bring it!
Salaams Az.Kayfa l haal? I am but a lowly student of the Holy Qur-an,therefore of no debateing interest to you.However your presentation of fairtale hadith etc is truely amuseing LOL! For myself I find it amazeing that so many muslim and non-muslim actually mistake them for absolute-no error included undeniable facts.I do recognise this ,All Mythos no matter how humerous or abstract,has some basis in reality.So there must be a bit of the truth in such writings as you have presented. Maxa-Salaama and happy hunting!
Travel marriage

Jakarta, Indonesia

#11 Feb 19, 2010
Az Zaqqum wrote:
Hey Thanks Travel Marriage! That was totally cool! I pulled a few of these from my book, The humor of islam...you'll die laughing.
Sahi Bukhari;
If a dog, a donkey or a woman pass in front of the praying people, prayer is annulled.
Aw geez
Based on Sahih Bukhari and a Muslim;
The Hadith that lists the greatest sins; shirk comes first and murder comes after it. So the crime of murder is not as grave as the crime of shirk. Any Muslim who committed terrorist acts and subsequently does go to the hell-fire, wont abide in there forever...for the hell-fire for any Muslim that go there, is only a temporary abode, and once all their sins have been purged in it, they’re going to be entered into Paradise.”
Sahi Bukhari;
People ruled by a woman will never be successful.
But the Quran says....
27:23 Lo! I found a woman ruling over them, and she hath been given abundance of all things, and hers is a mighty throne
Sahih Moslem;
Abu Saeed AL-Khudry said the prophet once saw a sputum in the Quibla of the Masjid, he cleaned it then told us not to spit on our right side or to the front, but we should spit on the left side or under the left foot.
ick
Muslim added
"It is your duty to kill the jet-black dog having two spots on the eyes for it is a devil.
Technically speaking, wouldn’t it be a Jinn?
Abu Dawood;
"Aiesha reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said:'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands
pervert
Sunaan Abu Dawud;
Women would have been commanded to prostrate before their husbands, had anyone be commanded to make prostration before another.
That's only because Islam gave more rights to Muslim women
Abu Dawood;
Cupping is the best medicine. Mohammed said that if anyone gets themselves cupped on the 17th, 19th, or 21 of the month, it will be a remedy for every disease.
I wonder if my doctor knows this…?
Nisaa and Tirmithi;
This is the best and most correct saying in this matter because it is better to guard and protect him from being splashed with his own urine.’
And the debate continues today
al-Tirmidhi, dawwood and muslim started the no laughing law of sharia.
I'll also add that all the above have unreliable hadith :D
Thanks again Traveler!
Btw, today is Freaky Fatwa Friday. I'll be posting 2 later today.
Shirk? Is the greatest sin?( Shirk, some time call as musyrik means idolatry). But, Muslim pray five time to kabaah , go umroh to kabaah, get emotional when the koran book get burn. Isn't it all of those stuff are shrik (idoltary)

Don't you know why i call my name as travel marriage.( travel marriage at islamic name called as Misyar) And Misyar is halal in Sunni wahabis view.
bmz

Seoul, Korea

#12 Feb 19, 2010
Az Zaqqum wrote:
<quoted text>
Bring it!
all those training in madrasah alongside yaacob ibrahim is slowing fading away from memory. the scars must still be there though.

cheers
bmz
Travel marriage

Jakarta, Indonesia

#13 Feb 19, 2010
To Rabbeen Al Jihad and Blessed Lunatic Wiseman

Don't you know 80% of Sharia law are made on base on those two hadits. Could you imagine if America turn to Shariah country.....

Let say, if Islam can defeat America. You guys need to define your constitution. But the problem is each sect have their own idea of shariah country, so you guy will never reach consensus.

Even in basic leadership power transfer concept, each sect have their own view. That's why Shia and Sunni fight.

That's is why, some Muslim majority country prefer secular law.
Hmmm

Indonesia

#14 Feb 20, 2010
Travel marriage wrote:
To Rabbeen Al Jihad and Blessed Lunatic Wiseman
Don't you know 80% of Sharia law are made on base on those two hadits.
80%?
sattistik dari mana mas,LAI?
Travel marriage wrote:
Could you imagine if America turn to Shariah country.....
weleh weleh, takut amerika jadi negara islam ya?
tenang aja mas, kan masih banyak wangsa pasar untuk dimurtadin di indonesia terutama penduduk yang miskin, pake indomie juga bisa kok, kan berimbang nati indonesia kristen &amerika islam.
Travel marriage wrote:
Let say, if Islam can defeat America. You guys need to define your constitution. But the problem is each sect have their own idea of shariah country, so you guy will never reach consensus.
Even in basic leadership power transfer concept, each sect have their own view. That's why Shia and Sunni fight.
That's is why, some Muslim majority country prefer secular law.
nah ini dia "kejeniusan" otak anda, hadis2 yang dikutip azzakum itu suni punya, shia mana nerima hadis selain perawi dari keluarga ahlul bait--sekarang liat statement pertama kalimat anda mengenai 80% hukum sariah etc--

saran saya :

1)kembali aja ke forum malaysia:"mengapa kristen tidak bisa jawab 3"

2)Perbaiki tata bahasa dan vocabulary anda

p.s kalo boleh saya tau, anda senang sekali menjilat orang--azzakum disini contohnya-- kalo ada maunya, pasti anda cina ya? ga usah ngelak.

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#15 Feb 20, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
80%?
sattistik dari mana mas,LAI?
<quoted text>
weleh weleh, takut amerika jadi negara islam ya?
tenang aja mas, kan masih banyak wangsa pasar untuk dimurtadin di indonesia terutama penduduk yang miskin, pake indomie juga bisa kok, kan berimbang nati indonesia kristen &amerika islam.
<quoted text>
nah ini dia "kejeniusan" otak anda, hadis2 yang dikutip azzakum itu suni punya, shia mana nerima hadis selain perawi dari keluarga ahlul bait--sekarang liat statement pertama kalimat anda mengenai 80% hukum sariah etc--
saran saya :
1)kembali aja ke forum malaysia:"mengapa kristen tidak bisa jawab 3"
2)Perbaiki tata bahasa dan vocabulary anda
p.s kalo boleh saya tau, anda senang sekali menjilat orang--azzakum disini contohnya-- kalo ada maunya, pasti anda cina ya? ga usah ngelak.
Are you afraid to post in English on an English formatted board? Scared?

Since: Oct 06

Location hidden

#16 Feb 20, 2010
Az Zaqqum wrote:
<quoted text>
Aw geez, did I actually PISS OFF a lunatic?
lol, I noticed you couldn't debunk my post and resorted to insults...now is that what Muhammad would have done? shame on you
:D
Az Zaqqum Islamic Scholar for the Infidel
ha
hehe...

Isreality

Since: Jan 10

Queensbury, NY

#17 Feb 20, 2010
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text> Salaams T.M. Lets see debate useing only Qur-an! Hehehehehe
.
That would be like asking for, Jews to use only the Torah, no Talmud, in a Jewish debate.lol
Ibn Ishaq

Malaysia

#18 Feb 20, 2010
Az Zaqqum wrote:
Sahi Bukhari;
People ruled by a woman will never be successful.
But the Quran says...
27:23 Lo! I found a woman ruling over them, and she hath been given abundance of all things, and hers is a mighty throne.
that was a BIRD talking to Solomon
Az Zaqqum wrote:
Muslim added;
"It is your duty to kill the jet-black dog having two spots on the eyes for it is a devil."
do you know that a single hadith may have many variant narrations? In some narrations the text is "al-kalb al-aswad" (the black dog), while in others it is "al-kalb al-'aqur" (the vicious dog)
Az Zaqqum wrote:
Sahih Moslem;
Abu Saeed AL-Khudry said the prophet once saw a sputum in the Quibla of the Masjid, he cleaned it then told us not to spit on our right side or to the front, but we should spit on the left side or under the left foot.
and do you know this hadith that explains it further:
"Spitting inside the mosque is a sin, and its redemption is to bury it (with earth)" (Sahih Bukhari)
The mosques of his time had no flooring. This is a prophet humble enough to scrape off someone else's dried sputum on the wall.
Az Zaqqum wrote:
al-Tirmidhi, dawwood and muslim started the no laughing law of sharia.
"Do not laugh TOO MUCH for it causes the heart to die" (Sunan al-Tirmizi)
Az Zaqqum wrote:
Sahi Bukhari;
If a dog, a donkey or a woman pass in front of the praying people, prayer is annulled.
Based on Sahih Bukhari and a Muslim;
The Hadith that lists the greatest sins; shirk comes first and murder comes after it. So the crime of murder is not as grave as the crime of shirk.
Abu Dawood;
"Aiesha reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said:'O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands."
Sunaan Abu Dawud;
Women would have been commanded to prostrate before their husbands, had anyone be commanded to make prostration before another.
Abu Dawood;
Cupping is the best medicine. Mohammed said that if anyone gets themselves cupped on the 17th, 19th, or 21 of the month, it will be a remedy for every disease.
Nisaa and Tirmithi;
This is the best and most correct saying in this matter because it is better to guard and protect him from being splashed with his own urine.
and your point is...exactly what?
it seems you and Blessed Wiseman are a perfect match - you're both lunatics
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#19 Feb 20, 2010
Travel marriage wrote:
There's a guy call az zaqqum. And i see no one can defeat debate him about koran and hadits tafseer (interpret). All Muslim can only scold him, but no single Muslim can debate him with good tafseer way. Is it because Muslim are lack skill of tafseer or Az Zaqqum is too smart. I don't know..
If no singgle muslim can beat him on tafseer skill, he deserve a title as Biggest Ayatolah hyper Mutfi Az zaqqum!
Maybe Az Zaqqum are imam Mahdi (the messias of Islam world). Who will teach muslim into right way! Maybe some Muslim think him as kafir, but remember.. according to Koran all man are born Muslim. Just because Az Zaqqum smarter than majority real Muslim, that doesn't mean become imam Mahdi. He will guide into right path according to koran!!!
It is not a he. It is a she.

Az Zaqqum is also an Idiot and only an idiot can appreciate an idiot. Therefore, you are an idiot too.

Most of the so-called ex-Muslims are also idiots.

Trust me.

Cheers
BMZ
bmz

Seoul, Korea

#20 Feb 20, 2010
Ibn Ishaq wrote:
<quoted text>
that was a BIRD talking to Solomon
<quoted text>
do you know that a single hadith may have many variant narrations? In some narrations the text is "al-kalb al-aswad" (the black dog), while in others it is "al-kalb al-'aqur" (the vicious dog)
<quoted text>
and do you know this hadith that explains it further:
"Spitting inside the mosque is a sin, and its redemption is to bury it (with earth)" (Sahih Bukhari)
The mosques of his time had no flooring. This is a prophet humble enough to scrape off someone else's dried sputum on the wall.
<quoted text>
"Do not laugh TOO MUCH for it causes the heart to die" (Sunan al-Tirmizi)
<quoted text>
and your point is...exactly what?
it seems you and Blessed Wiseman are a perfect match - you're both lunatics
So...Jibril spoke to me about hadiths and gave me his many interpretations of hadiths. Which is why the blind will mislead the blind but that has already been prophecized what turd mofreak will create with his ISLAM. Do you know why alter ego Mofreak BMZ in Singapore does not practice apostasy laws there. No..it is not about politics because it is an edict from the religious authorities there. Do you have your own jibril.
Cheers
BMZ

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