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Atheist Silurist

Stockton-on-tees, UK

#273 Aug 28, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove that your Allah God exist?
Explain what your Allah god is?
What does your Allah god look like?
Is your Allah god comprehend-able?
It's like two people that have been blind from birth arguing over the colour of a peacocks tail.

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#274 Aug 28, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove that your God exist?
Explain what your god is?
What does your god look like?
Is your god comprehend-able?
Your god is no more real or provable than their god.
People have killed and tortured in the name of their god for thousands of years. When will people stop being so mentally retarded and realize they are dying and killing over superstitious bollocks?
he words only begotten Son of God applies to The Spirit of Jesus who co-existed in Spirit substance of God before the world existed.

John 17:4-5
English Standard Version (ESV)
Jesus said:
4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

At the incarnation of Jesus His pr-existing spirit took on flesh from the Blessed Virgin Mary by the power of God.

‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; pertaining to a miracle God will perform on the Spirit of Jesus by uniting the nature of God with human flesh within the womb of Mary the Virgin.

There was no sexual relations between God and Mary, Jesus Spirit pr-existed before the world existed.

Luke 1:26-35
And the angel said to her,‘Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end.’ And Mary said to the angel,‘How shall this be, since I have no husband?’ And the angel said to her,‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.’" Luke 1:26-35

Jesus is called the Son of God because His Spirit was united with human flesh from Mary the Virgin by the power of God.
Atheist Silurist

Stockton-on-tees, UK

#275 Aug 28, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>he words only begotten Son of God applies to The Spirit of Jesus who co-existed in Spirit substance of God before the world existed.
John 17:4-5
English Standard Version (ESV)
Jesus said:
4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
At the incarnation of Jesus His pr-existing spirit took on flesh from the Blessed Virgin Mary by the power of God.
‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; pertaining to a miracle God will perform on the Spirit of Jesus by uniting the nature of God with human flesh within the womb of Mary the Virgin.
There was no sexual relations between God and Mary, Jesus Spirit pr-existed before the world existed.
Luke 1:26-35
And the angel said to her,‘Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end.’ And Mary said to the angel,‘How shall this be, since I have no husband?’ And the angel said to her,‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.’" Luke 1:26-35
Jesus is called the Son of God because His Spirit was united with human flesh from Mary the Virgin by the power of God.
Is that pile of biblical garbage supposed to be evidence for your god?

That only proves it to yourself. But can you prove it to people with a rational argument instead of prophetic biblical gibberish and circular reasoning like, god is real because the bible says so and the bible is true because god says so in the bible?

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#276 Aug 28, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
It's like two people that have been blind from birth arguing over the colour of a peacocks tail.
What is the or How DID HUMAN LIFE BEGIN? How did the human race originate?

The question has kindled debate for centuries in the quest to solve the mystery.
Many scientists have promoted the hypothesis that life most likely started from molecules that formed DNA-like material which evolved into mankind. Some
believe chemical elements spontaneously combined to produce a spark of life.
Could life occur from a set of random circumstances where the mathematical probability of happening is actually nil? And with such uncertainty emanating from the scientific hierarchy of our society, what should you believe?
The complexity and harmony of nature, the incredible precision and
sophistication of the human mind and body demand a Creator and Designer.
Design and order reveal a first cause for life, an Intelligence and Will behind the
phenomenal process of the creation of all forms of biological life.

Because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and Divine nature, have been clearly seen, being
understood through what has been made, so that they (And or we) are without excuse.
(Rom 1:20) The magnificence of creation clearly points to the unlimited power and awesome attributes of God as the Designer.
The Bible unequivocally states that God is the One who created not only “the heavens and the earth”(Gen 1:1) but all life on earth.
(Gen 1:11-12; Gen 1:20-31; Acts 17:24-30) Human life is the wonderment of God’s creation.

Behind all the elements that come together to form human, there is has to be a "Will" in the elements for life to advance.

And "WILL" is not a substance or element found any where in the universe.
Atheist Silurist

Stockton-on-tees, UK

#277 Aug 28, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>What is the or How DID HUMAN LIFE BEGIN? How did the human race originate?
The question has kindled debate for centuries in the quest to solve the mystery.
Many scientists have promoted the hypothesis that life most likely started from molecules that formed DNA-like material which evolved into mankind. Some
believe chemical elements spontaneously combined to produce a spark of life.
Could life occur from a set of random circumstances where the mathematical probability of happening is actually nil? And with such uncertainty emanating from the scientific hierarchy of our society, what should you believe?
The complexity and harmony of nature, the incredible precision and
sophistication of the human mind and body demand a Creator and Designer.
Design and order reveal a first cause for life, an Intelligence and Will behind the
phenomenal process of the creation of all forms of biological life.
Because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and Divine nature, have been clearly seen, being
understood through what has been made, so that they (And or we) are without excuse.
(Rom 1:20) The magnificence of creation clearly points to the unlimited power and awesome attributes of God as the Designer.
The Bible unequivocally states that God is the One who created not only “the heavens and the earth”(Gen 1:1) but all life on earth.
(Gen 1:11-12; Gen 1:20-31; Acts 17:24-30) Human life is the wonderment of God’s creation.
Behind all the elements that come together to form human, there is has to be a "Will" in the elements for life to advance.
And "WILL" is not a substance or element found any where in the universe.
Humans evolved from other forms of primates over hundreds of thousands of years,It is no longer speculation it is a scientific fact proven beyond reasonable doubt.
If the bible or any other book of myths or fables had mentioned such a proses then they may have a tiny bit of merit. But they don't do they? And that is why the religiots can't accept it. "it doesn't say so in my book of fables so it can't be true"

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#278 Aug 28, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans evolved from other forms of primates over hundreds of thousands of years,It is no longer speculation it is a scientific fact proven beyond reasonable doubt.
If the bible or any other book of myths or fables had mentioned such a proses then they may have a tiny bit of merit. But they don't do they? And that is why the religiots can't accept it. "it doesn't say so in my book of fables so it can't be true"
LMAO!
All you are doing is confirming what I post as being true!
In order for life to happen there has to be a "WILL" for it to begin.

All you posted was an after the fact of life advanced by the unknown substance we call our "WILL".

If you create a box from wood from a tree it never advances forward or into something else.
It remains a box.
Why?
Answer: Because it is void of a "WILL" to move it's self or advance into something else.

"THE WILL TO BE"
Given to us by God.
Mohammad kathab

Madison Heights, MI

#279 Aug 28, 2013
Mohammad was my,,,, lets get some facts here:

Muhammad’s atrocity against the Qurayza Jews
How Sa’d made him glad
By James M. Arlandson (copyright)
In AD 627, Muhammad committed an atrocity against the last remaining major tribe of Jews in Medina: the Qurayza.
He beheaded the men and the pubescent boys and enslaved the women and children. In doing this, he wiped an entire tribe "off the map" to use the language of the President of Iran, recently.
The purpose of this article is full disclosure and straightforward analysis about early Islam. How and why did this atrocity unfold?
Background
The immediate background of this mass extermination and enslavement is the Battle of the Trench (or Ditch), in February-March-April (the exact calculations vary), AD 627. This battle—though it ended up being a siege—pitted a coalition of Quraysh (a large tribe in and around Mecca) against Muslims and some Medinan non-Muslims. The Quraysh also had allies: the Ghatafan (northern Arab tribes to the east of Medina and Mecca) and an assortment of smaller tribes. As for the Muslims, prominent Islamologist W. M. Watt says that on the eve of battle, Muhammad’s army consisted of "practically all the inhabitants of Medina with the exception of the Jewish tribe of Qurayzah, who seem to have tried to remain neutral. There,,,, CONT
Mohammad kathab

Madison Heights, MI

#280 Aug 28, 2013
were some Medinans in league with the Meccans, but they were presumably ... exiled from Medina for the time being" (Muhammad at Medina, p. 36).
For the size of the two armies, the standard figure for the Meccans and their allies is 10,000, but one Muslim scholar says that the coalition of pagans may have reached 12,000 (Maududi vol. 3, p. 63). However, Watt says of the coalition: "The numbers given for the various contingents [the coalition was divided into three corps], however, do not add up to more than about 7,500. The Meccans themselves had about 300 horses and the nomadic tribes a similar number" (Statesman, pp. 166-67). On the Muslim side, the standard figure that is widely accepted is 3,000. They had no cavalry to speak of.
The larger background of this atrocity against the Jews reveals that Muhammad had already expelled two tribes of Jews: the Qaynuqa in AD 624 and the Nadir in AD 625.
It is unclear why the prophet expelled the first tribe, the Qaynuqa. One source says that these Jews waged war on Muhammad, but this is unlikely since he was flushed with victory over the Meccans at the Battle of Badr, only a month before. But perhaps this exaggeration reflects at least some level of conflict between the two sides. Another source says that some Jews played a trick on a Muslim woman, but this too is unlikely, since the trick is found in Arabic literature. These Jews controlled the market of crafts and trade, and the new Muslim immigrants to Medina were craftsmen, so maybe this is the reason. Regardless, the results worked out the same. After being besieged in their fortress for fifteen days, they were expelled, and the Muslims took over the crafts. "The Banu [tribe] Qaynuqa did not have any land, as they were goldsmiths [and armor-makers]. The Messenger of God took many weapons belonging to them and the tools of their trade" (Tabari, vol. 7, p. 87).
About the Nadir tribe, an early Muslim source says that Muhammad suspected an assassination attempt, while he was collecting some blood-wit money (compensation for bloodshed) from the tribe. Muhammad called on his followers to wage war on them, besieging them in their strongholds for fifteen days in August. Muhammad set about destroying their palm trees. Their livelihood undergoing destruction, they surrendered and departed for the north. Muhammad confiscated their property, just as he took the tools of the Nadir tribe. CONT
Mohammad kathab

Madison Heights, MI

#281 Aug 28, 2013
The upshot of all of this is clear. The conflict between Muslims and Jews is escalating, and the prophet for all of humanity is about to impose the ultimate penalty on the last remaining major tribe of Jews in Medina. And he will take their property, as well.
Sources: W. M. Watt, Muhammad: Prophet and Statesman, Oxford UP, 1961, pp. 130-31; 148-51; 166-67; Muhammad at Medina, Oxfored UP, 1956; Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 3; Ibn Ishaq, Life of Muhammad, trans. A. Guillaume, Oxford UP, 1955, pp. 363-64; 437-45. Ibn Ishaq (d. 767) valuable and reliable source by modern scholars, except for some chronology and the miraculous elements. Tabari, The Foundation of the Community, trans. M.V. McDonald and annotated by W. M. Watt (SUNYP, 1987), pp. 85-87; 156-61. Tabari (d. 923) is also considered a reliable source, except for some chronology and the miraculous elements.
Mujahid

Dallas, TX

#282 Aug 28, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
It's like two people that have been blind from birth arguing over the colour of a peacocks tail.
Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: Theyre always talking about God.


Q: Why did the atheist commit suicide
A: Because he wanted to prove that there wasn't a heaven

Since: Apr 11

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#283 Aug 29, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text>what is that?r u really serious?
where is the logic in ur FAKE belief?
ask ur self where is the logic in
Father, Son, Holy Spirit are three Manifestation of the one Spirit of God.God is One.
shame on u
ur religion has no sense
The One true God is a reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a Muslim, Allah is the Almighty Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing, and nothing is comparable to Him.
Definition of NOTHING
1 : not any thing : no thing <leaves nothing to the imagination>
2 : no part
3 : one of no interest, value, or consequence <they mean nothing to me>
Allah god defined by Muslims does not exist!
That is my point the god Muslim call Allah does not exist.
Muslims pray to a non-existing God!
Muhammad fabricated a non-existing god into being the one true god of his religion of Islam
And Muhammad made himself prophet of a god that does not exist!
Muslims are INSANE!
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#284 Aug 29, 2013
Mujahid wrote:
<quoted text>
If the above negative and hate-filled statements were true, how could Islam become the fastest growing religion of the world?
ISLAM IN THE BIBLE:

1 Timothy 4
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.'
Mohammad kathab

Madison Heights, MI

#285 Aug 29, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text>Islam my choice,life and religion
ISLAM is the only solution to the problems of all nations :)
If Islam is your choice, life and religion thats fine but keep it to your self and keep it in your nation, thats all
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#286 Aug 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove that your Allah God exist?
Explain what your Allah god is?
What does your Allah god look like?
Is your Allah god comprehend-able?
My God, the LORD Almighty definitely does not look like the three-headed Trinity Monster and also does not look like a pagan Roman Jesus.

No one knows how the LORD Almighty Allah looks like. Even Allah's obedient Slaves Moses, Jesus and Muhammad never described Allah.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#287 Aug 29, 2013
jesus is wrote:
<quoted text>
ISLAM IN THE BIBLE:
1 Timothy 4
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.'
This is about Satan, the men who penned the gospels and his minions known as the Church fathers, who founded Christianity and her ridiculously absurd doctrines.

Even their bottoms are being seared in hell non-stop.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#288 Aug 29, 2013
Mujahid wrote:
<quoted text>
Q: What is so ironic about Atheists?
A: Theyre always talking about God.
Q: Why did the atheist commit suicide
A: Because he wanted to prove that there wasn't a heaven
I can tell you that atheists are far better than Christians. Atheists were there long before
the monstrosity known as Christianity arrived.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#289 Aug 29, 2013
Mohammad kathab wrote:
Mohammad was my,,,, lets get some facts here:
Muhammad’s atrocity against the Qurayza Jews
How Sa’d made him glad
By James M. Arlandson (copyright)
In AD 627, Muhammad committed an atrocity against the last remaining major tribe of Jews in Medina: the Qurayza.
He beheaded the men and the pubescent boys and enslaved the women and children. In doing this, he wiped an entire tribe "off the map" to use the language of the President of Iran, recently.
The purpose of this article is full disclosure and straightforward analysis about early Islam. How and why did this atrocity unfold?
Background
The immediate background of this mass extermination and enslavement is the Battle of the Trench (or Ditch), in February-March-April (the exact calculations vary), AD 627. This battle—though it ended up being a siege—pitted a coalition of Quraysh (a large tribe in and around Mecca) against Muslims and some Medinan non-Muslims. The Quraysh also had allies: the Ghatafan (northern Arab tribes to the east of Medina and Mecca) and an assortment of smaller tribes. As for the Muslims, prominent Islamologist W. M. Watt says that on the eve of battle, Muhammad’s army consisted of "practically all the inhabitants of Medina with the exception of the Jewish tribe of Qurayzah, who seem to have tried to remain neutral. There,,,, CONT
Some simple facts:

The Jews of Banu Qurayzah, Banu Nadir and Bau Qaynuqa were all treacherous.

They went and approached the pagan Meccans for help and wanted to finish the Prophet and the infant Islam. So, the sided with pagans, being believers in God.

After Meccans ran away and abandoned the Jewish tribes, they were left alone to face the music.

Banu Nadir and Banu Qaynuqa were allowed to go into exile.

Banu Qurayzah'a leaders were killed.

So, they deserved that.

End of the story.

Read the fools' Wikipedia, which is the main source of information of all ignorant fools and everywhere you will find that they sided with pagan Meccans.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#290 Aug 29, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text>Islam my choice,life and religion
ISLAM is the only solution to the problems of all nations :)
Matter of opinion.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#291 Aug 29, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Some simple facts:
The Jews of Banu Qurayzah, Banu Nadir and Bau Qaynuqa were all treacherous.
They went and approached the pagan Meccans for help and wanted to finish the Prophet and the infant Islam. So, the sided with pagans, being believers in God.
After Meccans ran away and abandoned the Jewish tribes, they were left alone to face the music.
Banu Nadir and Banu Qaynuqa were allowed to go into exile.
Banu Qurayzah'a leaders were killed.
So, they deserved that.
End of the story.
Read the fools' Wikipedia, which is the main source of information of all ignorant fools and everywhere you will find that they sided with pagan Meccans.
Where did you read that the Jews of Yathrib were all treacherous? See what you are doing? You claim to reject Islamic history but while at the same telling others that the Jews were treacherous. If did not get this info from those "fools" Ben Issac or Tabari, then name a few authors you think are authentic.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#292 Aug 29, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
The One true God is a reflection of the unique concept that Islam associates with God. To a Muslim, Allah is the Almighty Creator and Sustainer of the universe, Who is similar to nothing, and nothing is comparable to Him.
Definition of NOTHING
1 : not any thing : no thing <leaves nothing to the imagination>
2 : no part
3 : one of no interest, value, or consequence <they mean nothing to me>
Allah god defined by Muslims does not exist!
That is my point the god Muslim call Allah does not exist.
Muslims pray to a non-existing God!
Muhammad fabricated a non-existing god into being the one true god of his religion of Islam
And Muhammad made himself prophet of a god that does not exist!
Muslims are INSANE!
Shamma,

Christianity does not believe in one true God.

The Church fabricated a ridiculous triune God known as Trinity, which is an abomination, a monstrosity and an absurdity.

Go fix up your funny God first.

Christianity's insanity knows no bounds.

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