Koran used by muslims today is a FAKE !

[Mi_nina]

The 1972 discovery of the earliest surviving Quranic manuscripts in the Great Mosque of Sana'a conclusively shows that the present Quran is different from the early manuscripts. It proves the Islamic claim---that the Quran is infallability, that it is Allah's original revelation word by word, and that it is copy of the version kept in a tablet in heaven---outright false.

... The devastating truth is that a large number of ancient Quranic manuscripts, dating from first century of Hijra were discovered in the Great Mosque of Sana’a (Yemen), which significantly differs from the present standard one. Carbon dating system confirmed that these Qurans are not forged one by religious rivalries. Moreover, these Qurans were discovered by Muslims, not infidels.
This is, probably, the most embarrassing event to Muslims in the 1,400-year history of Islam.

... Until now, only three ancient copies of the Quran are found. The one preserved in the British Library in London, dates from the late seventh century and was thought to be the oldest one. But the Sana’a manuscripts are even older. Moreover, these manuscripts are written in a script that originates from the Hijaz—the region of Arabia where prophet Muhammad lived, which makes them not only the oldest to have survived, but one of the earliest authentic copies of the Quran ever.

... The ancient texts were found to be devastatingly and disturbingly at odds with the existing form. There are unconventional verse ordering, small but significant textual variations, different orthography (spelling) and different artistic embellishment (decoration).

It shattered the orthodox Muslim belief that the Quran, as it has reached us today, is “the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God”. It means Quran has been distorted, perverted, revised, modified and corrected, and textual alterations had taken place over the years purely by Human hands.

The sacred aura surrounding this Holy Scripture of Islam, which remained intact for some 14 centuries is gone with this astonishing discovery and the ‘core belief’ of 1.4b Muslims that the Quran is the eternal, unaltered word of God is now clearly visible as a great hoax, a downright falsehood.
... As if it is not enough, many manuscripts showed the sign of palimpsests, i.e., versions very clearly written over even earlier washed off versions. The underwriting of palimpsest is, of course, often difficult to read visually, but modern tools, such as ultraviolet photography, can highlight them. It suggests that the Sana’a manuscripts are not only variants to the present version of the Quran, but the Sana’a manuscripts themselves were variants of earlier version, re-written on the same paper. It means, Allah’s claim that original text is preserved in heaven on golden tablets (Q 56: 77–78; 85:21–22), which none can touch except angels is also a fairy-tale.
... Today, when the divinity of the Quran is shattered by the Sana’a manuscripts, the spiritual nature of Islam is also exposed. Islam is nothing but a pure Arab political movement. The Divinity was attached to the Quran, when Arabs started conquering the surrounding nations, and Islam was imposed on them by force. Arabs not only imposed Islam on others, but also imposed this irrational belief of Quranic divinity to the minds of their victims, so that once Arabs are gone, the conquered people cannot come out from this mental enslavement, and return back to their original faith. It is a rare political skill.
Many companions of Muhammad clearly knew that the Quran was fake, but they remained with their prophet to share the booty and to enjoy the women. We all know, after Muhammad’s death, several Arab tribes returned back to their original belief, and idolatry flourished, but were forced back to Islam with the sword and bloodbath.

[crusaderpig]

hahaha i cant believe you posted this u shud be embarrassed i certainly am for you. This is something banal among muslims especially as the prophet said the quran was revealed in seven diff dialects and especially as the hadith record that different tribes had their own way of writing the quran but the meaning remained the same. This is certainly not embarrassing and theres a reason this argument has been buried under the sound for so long. The main preservation of quran was through memorisation not recording. The yemenis actually gave wide access to some select europeans who took the photos of the manuscript. Do you always resort to dishonesty to fool people? What else can be expected from ur lmt

[Mi_nina]

of course your "prophet" made some excuses....he knew truth would come out...so he had to cover his tracks....Islam is a false religion...made up by a false prophet...and you are stupid to follow it...dummy

[Rabbeen Al Jihad]

salaamz! The Bible used today is very real and tangeable.One can even use it to smoke the word of God.However! it contents Still remain under heavy scrutiny by vast numbers of scholars. Cheerz

[Dharma bhai]

Bad Hindus means Athiest Hindus and Indian Muslim(paki,bangla etc) who left Dharma due to fear of death from Arab rapists and other bad Hindus who does crimes like Muslims usually practice as religious rituals like inbreeding,killing inocent people,rape women,beating wife,cheat,fraud,lie,honour killing etc .This is called adharma(falsehood,islam)

[muslim]

Dharma bhai wrote:

Bad Hindus means Athiest Hindus and Indian Muslim(paki,bangla etc) who left Dharma due to fear of death from Arab rapists and other bad Hindus who does crimes like Muslims usually practice as religious rituals like inbreeding,killing inocent people,rape women,beating wife,cheat,fraud,lie,honour killing etc .This is called adharma(falsehood,islam)

The only way people like you can malign Islam is to quote verses 4rom your filthy Hindu books and say dis is 4rom Islam.
Muslims left and leaving Hinduism because Hinduism is satanic religion.
"All wife of the host reciting three mantras go round the horse. While praying, they say:'O horse, you are, protector of the community on the basis of good qualities, you are, protector or treasure of happiness. O horse, you become my husband.'" [Yajur Veda 23/19.]
The horse and principal wife spread two legs each. Then the Ardhvaryu (priest) orders to cover the oblation place, raise canopy etc. After this, the principal wife of the host pulls penis of the horse and puts it in her vagina and says: "This horse may release semen in me." [Yajur Veda 23/20]
Do you want me 2 quote more filthy verses 4rom your filthy Hindu books?

[Sanchez]

muslim wrote:

<quoted text>The only way people like you can malign Islam is to quote verses 4rom your filthy Hindu books and say dis is 4rom Islam.
Muslims left and leaving Hinduism because Hinduism is satanic religion.
"All wife of the host reciting three mantras go round the horse. While praying, they say:'O horse, you are, protector of the community on the basis of good qualities, you are, protector or treasure of happiness. O horse, you become my husband.'" [Yajur Veda 23/19.]
The horse and principal wife spread two legs each. Then the Ardhvaryu (priest) orders to cover the oblation place, raise canopy etc. After this, the principal wife of the host pulls penis of the horse and puts it in her vagina and says: "This horse may release semen in me." [Yajur Veda 23/20]
Do you want me 2 quote more filthy verses 4rom your filthy Hindu books?

Evidently you do not understand the word 'mythology' which has nothing to do with real events. Real events which are disgusting is your prophet at 51 marrying a 6 years old or at 60 killing all the males, including her husband and brothers and taking safya a 17 years old as his bride.

Kinana, their chief, was tortured by Mohammed by lighting fire on his chest to find whereabouts of his treasury (Ishaq pge 515). Later he was beheaded. 17 year old Safia was his beautiful wife with whom Mohammed slept the same night
http://www.islamnothanks.com/rapist.html

[david Vondahor]

you spelt quran wrong

[Ya Muslimoon wa Muslimat]

Even tho there are many translations of the Quran the only correct translation is upon the understanding of the companions of the Messenger of Allah since there are those among who was the Quran revealed.

I don't know who wrote the Quran find in Yemen but I know that the Quran we read today was approved by Uthman and Ali about who Allah said that He look at their hearts and chosed them to be the companions of the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings be upon him, his family and those who follow him untill the day of Resurection.

[Helen]

Once the Yemeni authorities discovered that the Sanaa Koran differed from the modern Koran they immediately stopped all investigations. Too late. The truth is out. The koran is not the word of God. It is the word of Muhammad.

[Helen]

Ya Muslimoon wa Muslimat wrote:

Even tho there are many translations of the Quran the only correct translation is upon the understanding of the companions of the Messenger of Allah since there are those among who was the Quran revealed.
I don't know who wrote the Quran find in Yemen but I know that the Quran we read today was approved by Uthman and Ali about who Allah said that He look at their hearts and chosed them to be the companions of the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings be upon him, his family and those who follow him untill the day of Resurection.

Uthman did approve of the present Koran. The reason being that there were many different Korans about and he wanted one Koran. Well it is easier to keep people in their place if there is only one word of god. It gets confusing when there are a 100 words of god and muslims don't like confusion. It interferes with their simplistic beliefs. So Uthman burnt all the different copies of the Koran.

[Human]

You will never change. You people don't have the guts to accept the truth

[Rabbeen Al Jihad]

Salaamz! O denigrateing Ones. Yes Its true! The Holy-Qur'An today is in fact copy after copy of copys.However! there,s N O T H I N G F A K E about it! Its still a guarded text and ALLAHs Guidance Sure! test it yourselves or remain forever doubtful. Cheerz

[Helen]

Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:

Salaamz! O denigrateing Ones. Yes Its true! The Holy-Qur'An today is in fact copy after copy of copys.However! there,s N O T H I N G F A K E about it! Its still a guarded text and ALLAHs Guidance Sure! test it yourselves or remain forever doubtful. Cheerz

Of course it is fake and Muhammad and following muslims faked it. No god would create a book that started at chapter 96 and then arranged it in order of large chapters at the beginning and small chapters at the end. It takes fallible huumans to do something so absurd as that.

[Rabbeen Al Jihad]

Helen wrote:

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Of course it is fake and Muhammad and following muslims faked it. No god would create a book that started at chapter 96 and then arranged it in order of large chapters at the beginning and small chapters at the end. It takes fallible huumans to do something so absurd as that.

Salaamz H. & salutations! LOL! I believe you to be in gross error concerning the facts surrounding the revelation of the Holy qur'An to the pious and worthy servant of ALLAH,Muhammad(pbuh).Every sura in it is in an order.In other words it does have a chronology,you,re just unaware of it.It also contains basic scientific facts ! although it is not a script solely for the scientific.It also contains elementary human laws ! Although it is not a book of statutes per say.It is also a guarded text! meaning there are rudimentary esoteric secrets within its pages and only the pious and humble may understand them. Therefore I in my humble opinion would suggest at least a cursory read of the entire text,and not just one but perhaps three from different scribes. May ALLAH be to you Guidance sure. Cheerz

[Helen]

Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:

<quoted text>Salaamz H. & salutations! LOL! I believe you to be in gross error concerning the facts surrounding the revelation of the Holy qur'An to the pious and worthy servant of ALLAH,Muhammad(pbuh).Every sura in it is in an order.In other words it does have a chronology,you,re just unaware of it.It also contains basic scientific facts ! although it is not a script solely for the scientific.It also contains elementary human laws ! Although it is not a book of statutes per say.It is also a guarded text! meaning there are rudimentary esoteric secrets within its pages and only the pious and humble may understand them. Therefore I in my humble opinion would suggest at least a cursory read of the entire text,and not just one but perhaps three from different scribes. May ALLAH be to you Guidance sure. Cheerz

Wrong. The first verse of the Koran is when gabriel tells Muhammad to read. And he says:

"Read in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-"

And where does this appear in the Koran? Go and check your copy. It appears in Sura 96.001
No god writes a book that begins at chapter 96. The koran is a human concoction as is your religion.

[Shamma]

Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:

<quoted text>Salaamz H. & salutations! LOL! I believe you to be in gross error concerning the facts surrounding the revelation of the Holy qur'An to the pious and worthy servant of ALLAH,Muhammad(pbuh).Every sura in it is in an order.In other words it does have a chronology,you,re just unaware of it.It also contains basic scientific facts ! although it is not a script solely for the scientific.It also contains elementary human laws ! Although it is not a book of statutes per say.It is also a guarded text! meaning there are rudimentary esoteric secrets within its pages and only the pious and humble may understand them. Therefore I in my humble opinion would suggest at least a cursory read of the entire text,and not just one but perhaps three from different scribes. May ALLAH be to you Guidance sure. Cheerz

Muhammad lied.
The Koren is the worship of the Jinn Devil god called Allah.

Jesus is the Son of God:
Christ.
Meaning: anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word translated “Messiah”

Christ is the official title of our Lord, occurring 1,514 in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people.

He is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt. 22:42), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who describes him as “Messiah the Prince.”

The Messiah is the same person as “the seed of the woman”(Gen. 3:15), "the seed of Abraham" (Gen. 22:18), the "Prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15), "the priest after the order of Melchizedek" (Ps. 110:4), "the rod out of the stem of Jesse" (Isa. 11:1, 10), the “Immanuel,” the virgin's son (Isa. 7:14), "the branch of Jehovah" (Isa. 4:2), and “the messenger of the covenant”(Mal. 3:1).

This is he “of whom Moses in the law and the prophets did write.” The Old Testament Scripture is full of prophetic declarations regarding the Great Deliverer and the work he was to accomplish.

Jesus the Christ is Jesus the Great Deliverer, the Anointed One, the Savior of men. This name denotes that Jesus was divinely appointed, commissioned, and accredited as the Savior of men (Hebrews 5:4; Isa. 11:2-4; 49:6; John 5:37; Acts 2:22).

Which God did, by him - The Lord Jesus himself often traced his power to do these things to his commission from the Father, but he did it in such a way as to show that he was closely united to him, John 5:19, John 5:30.

Peter here says that God did these works by Jesus Christ, to show that Jesus was truly sent by God, and that therefore he had the seal and attestation of God.

The same thing Jesus himself said, John 5:36, "The work which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me."

The great works which God has made in creation, as well as in redemption, he is represented as having done by his Son, Hebrews 1:2, "By whom also he made the worlds," John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19.

The Father appointed Jesus to do certain things he intrusted in Jesus hands to accomplish.

To finish - To do or to perform until the task is completed.
The word is applied to the "termination" of anything, as we say a task is "ended" or a work is completed.
So Jesus said, when he expired, It is "finished" John 19:30.

Jesus came to "accomplish" a certain work; and hence we see the reason why he so often guarded his life and sought his safety until the task was fully completed.

These works or miracles bore witness of Jesus; that is, they showed that Jesus was sent from God, because none but God could perform them.

Jesus testified: The Father and I are One.

[Rabbeen Al Jihad]

Helen wrote:

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Wrong. The first verse of the Koran is when gabriel tells Muhammad to read. And he says:
"Read in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-"
And where does this appear in the Koran? Go and check your copy. It appears in Sura 96.001
No god writes a book that begins at chapter 96. The koran is a human concoction as is your religion.

Salaams H & Salutations! LOL! ALLAH didnt write it down.His faithful servant Muhammad wrote it as it was narrated to Him.And Interestingly He(muhammad-pbuh) wrote it the same way most mid east languages are written and read.From Right-To-left!LOL Have you ever read a translation of the Holy Qur'An that reads from Right-To-left? LOL! If the scribes who translated it into english couldnt get THAT right,What ever makes you think they got everything else right? LOL! Cheerz

[Nandrelle]

The bible has been changed a million times through-out history by popes who didnt like what they read.It was written to suite their own belifes...

Bible is the true religion book to follow??? How?

Maybe someone else can write in it as well!

[Helen]

Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:

<quoted text> Salaams H & Salutations! LOL! ALLAH didnt write it down.His faithful servant Muhammad wrote it as it was narrated to Him.And Interestingly He(muhammad-pbuh) wrote it the same way most mid east languages are written and read.From Right-To-left!LOL Have you ever read a translation of the Holy Qur'An that reads from Right-To-left? LOL! If the scribes who translated it into english couldnt get THAT right,What ever makes you think they got everything else right? LOL! Cheerz

Well you got that wrong. Most muslims claim that Muhammad was illiterate. This claim was made to refute the idea that he copied his religion from Judaism.
According to Gerd Puin, a German scholar the Koran is a cocktail of texts that were not even comprehensible in Muhammad's time. There is another tale of a christian writing down what Muhammad told him who realised that Muhammad was a phoney because Muhammad agreed to amend the words of god when the christian pointed out the discrepancies.
Whoever wrote the Koran one thing is certain. It was not god.