Islam Will Conquer Italy and the Entire West

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The Middle East Media Research Institute has released excerpts from a transcript of a televised sermon by Egyptian cleric Salem Abu Al-Futuh. Airing on Al-Nas TV on August 18, Al-Futuh's predicted that Islam would conquer the entire West, starting with Italy and ending with the Americas ...

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Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169145 Feb 23, 2013
ProVeritas wrote:
<quoted text>
I have been to the Akropolis and the thought did not occur to me. Thanks for the reminder. At least praying in te Akropolis may put to rest all those slave souls murdered there to please and entertain the blood thirsty populace of the time.
ProVeritas you know means truth, I call a spade a spade. When I concede a point to your liking I am accused of Taqqiya when I refute a point or mention a point you guys do not like I am agressive, make up your mind, which way it is? lololo
it's not a matter of a point being to my liking or not.. it's about being able to concede to the truth no matter who it comes from.

I m talking about 150,000 muslims all over Greece.. they asked for a mosque to be built in close proximity to the Akropolis.. I guess they chose the place for a reason. they must secretly long for Zeus eulogy who knows.. or else.. they did it to provoke ,, deeply provoke and challenge the host country's and people's culture.
see what I mean?

one muslim will not think of anything like this.. it's the big numbers that make them think.. they are in some kind of conquest expedition . sorry but in all honesty when muslims claim a mosque just near the Akropolis I only wish Zeus made use of his thunderbolt. at least he was less patient than Jesus.:))

there's a greek saying that says it all: "give liberties to the peasant and he will jump on your bed."
or " the wild animals came to chase away the domestic ones"
no offence. but whoever doesnt respect the host culture is a devious invader. And will eventually be treated as such.

Respect is a prerequisite owed to the host by the guest.

now how I want it to be.. I want it to be : call a spade a spade. yeah.

so .. can I call for christians to go and pray in Meccah? or build a church or Parthenon next to Kaaba?

you wouldnt like it now would you .. nor would you allow me this ..freedom would you . you would take it as a provocation wouldnt you .

because it would be a provocation now let's call a spade a spade. shall we :)
ProVeritas

Bedford, Canada

#169146 Feb 23, 2013
Nina wrote:
<quoted text>
No I dont have double standards at all. I cant possibly argue with every hostile comment here against islam especialy against muslim people I got tired. I have made very clear , I think , where I stand.
I ve also expressed my repugnance to every barbaric attitude be it christian or muslim , sexist and hateful.
but when we talk about religions.. let's talk about religious attitudes and practices..
dont forget.. whoever feels being attacked and invades and overwhelmed.. will eventually grow hostile against the invader.
so no double standards at all.. just being able to look at both sides of a coin.
true.. I read terrible things about islam here. then again.. i make use of my god given gift.: my mind. so i read the ..propaganda as you call it then I wait for a muslim to refute it and what do I get? only a you tube vid with a muslim imam ,or expert whatever to confirm taht aysha was 9 years old and how to beat your wife without leaving marks on the body..
and then.. we have the muslim one killing two christians in the usa.. the quranic way.. "cut fingers and heads"| why?
see??
ProVeritas.. I m not talking about people who misinterpret and misapply Allah's word.. I m talking abouit Quran itself.
it's Quran that talks about beating wives it's Quran that talks about 2 women = 1 man in terms of credibility it's quran that says "cut heads and all fingers"
what do YOU have to say about what Quran says?
Nowhere the Quran says the woman is worth 1/2 the man. Period.
Any Imam who confrim something he does not know does not represent Islam. Majortiy of muslim schoolars believe that Ayesha was about 13-14 years when Mohammad consumated marraie to her, at that time that was the age girls married as they developed early.
The other guestions I answered early.
The Quran is the word of God preserved by HIM , if some choose to intreprete the Quran in self serving manner that is their choice and their sin. Nuslims who understand the Quran can easily detect the faulty intrepretation whether coming from illiterates or from so called Imams who are not well vrsed or are deviants. Imams in Islam are not unfallibale and muslims are not bound to listen to them if they state things that can conform to Quranic verses and Hadeeth. Nowadays with anynody able to start a TV station and broadcast to the world through satellite and hiring a so called Imam it is easy to distort facts
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169147 Feb 23, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>And why do you think that the opinion of a Tissekone is needed?
and how are you doing Spathis?:)
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169148 Feb 23, 2013
ProVeritas wrote:
<quoted text>
When the message came to Mohammad he preached to his family and tribe, few agreed and the rest of Makkans denied and tortured his followers and abused him no end and decided to kill him so he ran to Madina where the people there welcomed him and his few people. They barred trading with muslims and marrying them and made their life hell and drove them to hunger for makkan had a clout with all tribes. In the first war Makkans sent 1000 well equiped fighters to finish the muslims who numbered about 300 hundred and had only 2 horses.Muslims were not out to fight but were forced to battle and they were scared because the numbers do not match. So God sent that verse tht he will support his faithful and HE did and muuslims won a battle that neither they prepared for nor wanted. All the wars were to defend muslims and protect the faithful. Is that different from Moses taking the mighty pharoes to task with God help or Joshwa entering Palestine and killing all inhabitants or Solomon conquering Yemen by threats and the help of JINN and God or David battles to protect the faith? When Islam was secure in Islam land God then said " fo not fight those who do not fight you or drive you ut of your homes" and then says- No compulsion is faith for the true path is clear and the wrong path is clear. So muslims are not clled to fight to spread the faith but as in any other law God or man made they can fightto defend themselves and God will help if they are defending themselves. God says do not transgress.
You can not pick and choose the verses without the context or to support a skewed point of view.
true . out of context things can take any meaning.

However, seems that Allah changed his own word according to circumstances...... and I cant help focusing on the words:

Quran:“When Allah was revealing to the angels,“I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so cut above the necks, and cut every finger of them!”– Quran 8:12.”

I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror

unbelievers? terror?? mama mou, what kind of God is he to want to willy nilly impose himself on humans? sounds very ..humanlike to me .

and it scares me and it appals me. and then I see in the 21st century some muslims apply Allah's message so...OUT OF CONTEXT.

so what am I to make of it?

please dont argue with me using the OT. you're losing the argument before you even start. You only prove that the only justification of the Quranic content is the similarities to the OT.

so why bother with the Quran if we have it all in the OT?
:)
ProVeritas

Bedford, Canada

#169149 Feb 23, 2013
Nina wrote:
<quoted text>
it's not a matter of a point being to my liking or not.. it's about being able to concede to the truth no matter who it comes from.
I m talking about 150,000 muslims all over Greece.. they asked for a mosque to be built in close proximity to the Akropolis.. I guess they chose the place for a reason. they must secretly long for Zeus eulogy who knows.. or else.. they did it to provoke ,, deeply provoke and challenge the host country's and people's culture.
see what I mean?
one muslim will not think of anything like this.. it's the big numbers that make them think.. they are in some kind of conquest expedition . sorry but in all honesty when muslims claim a mosque just near the Akropolis I only wish Zeus made use of his thunderbolt. at least he was less patient than Jesus.:))
there's a greek saying that says it all: "give liberties to the peasant and he will jump on your bed."
or " the wild animals came to chase away the domestic ones"
no offence. but whoever doesnt respect the host culture is a devious invader. And will eventually be treated as such.
Respect is a prerequisite owed to the host by the guest.
now how I want it to be.. I want it to be : call a spade a spade. yeah.
so .. can I call for christians to go and pray in Meccah? or build a church or Parthenon next to Kaaba?
you wouldnt like it now would you .. nor would you allow me this ..freedom would you . you would take it as a provocation wouldnt you .
because it would be a provocation now let's call a spade a spade. shall we :)
If they are Greeks then they have the right like any Greek to ask and the city has the right to refuse based on zoning not any other criteria, I believ there is a church near the Akropolis if my memory serves me so why not a mosque? Having said that a mosque should be built in a convenient location accessible to majortiy of muslims and it is not to be a political statement. You know God does not live in mosques they are simply places of worship. The question is why you think it is a political statment to ask for such site? Could be cultural and may be to build smething that contributs to the city atractions. The Red Mosque in Turkey is a famous attraction, no? there are beatiful greek orthodox churches in many arab countries and theyare located in best areas
IL Principe

Aarhus, Denmark

#169150 Feb 23, 2013
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>And why do you think that the opinion of a Tissekone is needed?
...and why haven't you taken a camel back to Swewerstan? Oh, I forgot. You are in prison for the rest of your life.
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169152 Feb 23, 2013
ProVeritas wrote:
<quoted text>
Nowhere the Quran says the woman is worth 1/2 the man. Period.
Any Imam who confrim something he does not know does not represent Islam. Majortiy of muslim schoolars believe that Ayesha was about 13-14 years when Mohammad consumated marraie to her, at that time that was the age girls married as they developed early.
The other guestions I answered early.
The Quran is the word of God preserved by HIM , if some choose to intreprete the Quran in self serving manner that is their choice and their sin. Nuslims who understand the Quran can easily detect the faulty intrepretation whether coming from illiterates or from so called Imams who are not well vrsed or are deviants. Imams in Islam are not unfallibale and muslims are not bound to listen to them if they state things that can conform to Quranic verses and Hadeeth. Nowadays with anynody able to start a TV station and broadcast to the world through satellite and hiring a so called Imam it is easy to distort facts
ProVeritas.. I dont hold you or any muslim individual responsible for everything an imam or other says. But still.. you have to admit that your imams say so.. so who appoints them as imams and why should one ,every time they ( imams) say something outrageous, excuse them as misinterpreting the Quran? I mean if imams misinterpret the Quran who then gives the right interpretation? who taught you the true Quran?


I read the Quran. I believe I read there that in cases of testimony one's man word is equalled by two women's testimony .( cause i guess women are considered moody and erratic or something haha)

come on now dont lie to me.. it's either in the Quran or in some other books I was given --by muslims- to read and get .. enlightened

dont lie to me.. dont..

in islam 1 man's testimony =2 inherently erratic and untrustworthy women's testimony.

dont lie to me.... proVERITAS :)))
ProVeritas

Bedford, Canada

#169153 Feb 24, 2013
Nina wrote:
<quoted text>
true . out of context things can take any meaning.
However, seems that Allah changed his own word according to circumstances...... and I cant help focusing on the words:
Quran:“When Allah was revealing to the angels,“I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so cut above the necks, and cut every finger of them!”– Quran 8:12.”
I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror
unbelievers? terror?? mama mou, what kind of God is he to want to willy nilly impose himself on humans? sounds very ..humanlike to me .
and it scares me and it appals me. and then I see in the 21st century some muslims apply Allah's message so...OUT OF CONTEXT.
so what am I to make of it?
please dont argue with me using the OT. you're losing the argument before you even start. You only prove that the only justification of the Quranic content is the similarities to the OT.
so why bother with the Quran if we have it all in the OT?
:)
That is the same God who sent Noah and destroyed the whole world who disbelieved and saved a handful, the same God who sent Abraham and Isaac and Moses and Solomon and Jesus. The same who destroyed Sodom and drawned the Pharoe army. He is all powerful as well as merciful but He does not have to be diplomat.
That is not the OT I am quoting, that is the Quran, if you find similarities it is because the Author is the same.
ProVeritas

Bedford, Canada

#169154 Feb 24, 2013
Nina wrote:
<quoted text>
ProVeritas.. I dont hold you or any muslim individual responsible for everything an imam or other says. But still.. you have to admit that your imams say so.. so who appoints them as imams and why should one ,every time they ( imams) say something outrageous, excuse them as misinterpreting the Quran? I mean if imams misinterpret the Quran who then gives the right interpretation? who taught you the true Quran?
I read the Quran. I believe I read there that in cases of testimony one's man word is equalled by two women's testimony .( cause i guess women are considered moody and erratic or something haha)
come on now dont lie to me.. it's either in the Quran or in some other books I was given --by muslims- to read and get .. enlightened
dont lie to me.. dont..
in islam 1 man's testimony =2 inherently erratic and untrustworthy women's testimony.
dont lie to me.... proVERITAS :)))
You said a woman is worth 1/2 the man so did JAN, I refuted that, but about witness the Quran says that man and women each ahve a role in the creation, one can do the other's task. Due to the task assigned to women they are made to be more caring and to use the heart more than the brain, you do ot like it, then hard luck.
We try in our finite knowledge to justify the all knowing wisdom of God but in somethings we have to take His word for it.
You tell me wny jews go and knock their heads on the wailing wall, does that make senser? or why you eat he host every sunday, and that funny skull cap, or all those ruuaals you perform and everybody does? Why Satuarday is no work for jews and they can not perform jobs on that day? What is the science behind all this?
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169155 Feb 24, 2013
ProVeritas wrote:
<quoted text>
If they are Greeks then they have the right like any Greek to ask and the city has the right to refuse based on zoning not any other criteria, I believ there is a church near the Akropolis if my memory serves me so why not a mosque? Having said that a mosque should be built in a convenient location accessible to majortiy of muslims and it is not to be a political statement. You know God does not live in mosques they are simply places of worship. The question is why you think it is a political statment to ask for such site? Could be cultural and may be to build smething that contributs to the city atractions. The Red Mosque in Turkey is a famous attraction, no? there are beatiful greek orthodox churches in many arab countries and theyare located in best areas
A Pakistani or Syrian or a Nigerian can never be Greek. they can be greek citizens when Pasok ( socialist party )needed their vote ( wink wink) but now they are taken back that.. "previlege".

crisis has it's good points :)

let's be honest.. an african can never be greek just like a greek can never be .. say.. sudanese.. or .. Chinese or whatever so strikingly different and go there and DEMAND to build a Parthenon or Maria Virgin church next to a mosque or a ..totem or a pagoda.

it's called .. first self respect that leads to respect for the"other" much more so if the "other' is the host.

demand is the key word that shows the real motives. It's ok, dont compare Canada and the USA with countries and nations in europe.. muliticulturalism is not the foundation of european nations. In fact.. nation in european terms is the antonym of multi-culti.

of course I cant help noticing a devious attempt to change this.. all over.

so can christians go and build a stonehenge, a parthenon, a church or a colosseum near Kaaba???

THAT'S THE QUESTION proVeritas.:)
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169157 Feb 24, 2013
meanwhile a song I like very much and which Turks take so much pride in...
http://youtu.be/8LoIF6VzH9A

:))
ProVeritas

Bedford, Canada

#169158 Feb 24, 2013
Nina wrote:
<quoted text>
A Pakistani or Syrian or a Nigerian can never be Greek. they can be greek citizens when Pasok ( socialist party )needed their vote ( wink wink) but now they are taken back that.. "previlege".
crisis has it's good points :)
let's be honest.. an african can never be greek just like a greek can never be .. say.. sudanese.. or .. Chinese or whatever so strikingly different and go there and DEMAND to build a Parthenon or Maria Virgin church next to a mosque or a ..totem or a pagoda.
it's called .. first self respect that leads to respect for the"other" much more so if the "other' is the host.
demand is the key word that shows the real motives. It's ok, dont compare Canada and the USA with countries and nations in europe.. muliticulturalism is not the foundation of european nations. In fact.. nation in european terms is the antonym of multi-culti.
of course I cant help noticing a devious attempt to change this.. all over.
so can christians go and build a stonehenge, a parthenon, a church or a colosseum near Kaaba???
THAT'S THE QUESTION proVeritas.:)
They can ask, what is the harm in asking?
Having said that I think the whole of Arabian peninsula ( don't know exactly the boundaries are designated Islam Land only) I can not recall the Quran on that or the Hadeeth but will find out and get back to you, I admit I never looked into that. I know Saudia does not allow churches or temples on it's land.
The Vatican is not the original land of Christianity, they do not allow niether mosques nor any other churches for that matter withing it's boundaries, just apassing remark
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169159 Feb 24, 2013
IL Principe wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post but the man has just defended rape and enslavement - just as long as it is carried out by invading muslims it's ok. He is just as brainwashed as all the other muslims.
My experience so far has shown me that good muslim people just dont follow Quran. they only keep the general idea about God and some traditions, religious ones.. not killing ones.

that's ok, but what if one follows Quran to the letter? That's my big question.

hello Principe!
Nina

Istanbul, Turkey

#169160 Feb 24, 2013
ProVeritas wrote:
<quoted text>
Part of the answer is given , see earlier post.
God permitted muslims to marry 4 provided they met conditions as to be absolutely just in all respects, that may disqualify many and God says if you can meet the conditions then only one is permitted.
Mohammad married more than 4 because God permitted him and many of them actually had no sexual angle to them for they were old for that. Some were to foster tribal relations as well and some were gifts by kings and it was considered not done to refuse. But having said that Mohammad is a mighty prophet and choosen by God and God can bestow upon him anything. Mohammad was distinquished among all other messengers by the boon to enact rules in the ame of God.
like I said.. i read the Quran and know exactly how Allah said it.. one wife for you . but if you feel you can share everything EQUALLY among wives, then you can marry more than one But because Allah KNOWS that it's impossible to share everything equally for example your LOVE CANT BE SHARED EQUALLY that's why Allah tells muslims to marry ONE.

But muslims missed that part .. they missed and misinterpreted Allah's words.. conveniently!!

Now come on proVeritas.. Muhamad married more than 4 because Allah permitted him so.. how .. by some kind of contract. any written document of the permission?

i have two candidates waiting can i use that excuse and say Allah permitted me to marry many ?
you will of course ask where that.. permission is.. I will tell you it was together wht the one Allah gave to Muhammed. didnt you read /see/hear it ?

please.. please.. I m trying to make fun of it for otherwise my logic will feel offended .. and..:)

jesus was a kind guy .. why on earth didnt Allah give him any wife and allowed muhammed as many as he could... enlighten?

Since: Jun 12

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#169161 Feb 24, 2013
ProVeritas wrote:
<quoted text>
You said a woman is worth 1/2 the man so did JAN, I refuted that, but about witness the Quran says that man and women each ahve a role in the creation, one can do the other's task. Due to the task assigned to women they are made to be more caring and to use the heart more than the brain, you do ot like it, then hard luck.
We try in our finite knowledge to justify the all knowing wisdom of God but in somethings we have to take His word for it.
You tell me wny jews go and knock their heads on the wailing wall, does that make senser? or why you eat he host every sunday, and that funny skull cap, or all those ruuaals you perform and everybody does? Why Satuarday is no work for jews and they can not perform jobs on that day? What is the science behind all this?
Why don't you start telling the truth you pathetic excuse for a man?

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (4:11)-(Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.

Qur'an (2:282)-(Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they would make more reliable witnesses.

Qur'an (2:228)- "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Qur'an (5:6)- "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands if there is no water to purify them following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).

Qur'an (24:31)- Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye.(To be fair, men are told to do the same thing in the prior verse).

Qur'an (2:223)- "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse, which it has been used historically to justify. If this is what Muhammad meant, however, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).

Qur'an (4:3)-(Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.

Qur'an (53:27)- "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

Qur'an (4:24) and Qur'an (33:50)- A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage. Note that the verse distinguishes wives from captives (those whom they right hand possesses).

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#169162 Feb 24, 2013
'He branded me so people knew I was his': Sex slave aged 11 describes how 'trafficker disfigured her flesh with heated hairpin'

Nine men are accused of grooming and abusing vulnerable girls in Oxford
Child sex ring allegedly abused several girls - aged 11 to 16 over eight years
Gang member allegedly branded one schoolgirl with 'M' for Mohammed

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 01:23 GMT, 23 February 2013 | UPDATED: 11:09 GMT, 23 February 2013

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22832...
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Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#169163 Feb 24, 2013
Nina wrote:
<quoted text>
please stop it.. you re badly hurting my aesthetics( to say the least) and I react badly to whoever does that --deliberately.
:)
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And the others do not hurt your aesthetics?
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Start by reacting bad on your self.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#169164 Feb 24, 2013
Miami imam testifies that he lied when he professed support for the Taliban

NO SURPRISE HERE. LIES OOZE OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS LIKE CHOCOLATE

BY JAY WEAVER

In testimony that was at turns deadly serious and comical, a Miami imam accused of aiding terrorists testified Wednesday that he lied about his ostensible support for the Pakistani Taliban because he wanted to obtain $1 million from a purported Taliban sympathizer — who was actually an FBI informant.

Hafiz Khan, 77, the one-time leader of a Miami mosque, said he repeatedly deceived the informant, known as Mahmood Siddiqui, because Siddiqui had promised him the money to help poor victims of war between the Taliban and Pakistan army in the Swat Valley near the Afghanistan border.

Khan, accused of sending money to the U.S.-designated terrorist organization, was unaware that his conversations — in which he wished Americans would die in pursuit of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden — were recorded by the FBI.“What I said was all lies,” Khan testified in Pashto through an interpreter.“It was just because of the money.”

Khan, on trial in federal court since early January, spent a second day on the witness stand on charges of supplying at least $50,000 from 2008-2010 to the Taliban, sworn enemies of the U.S. and Pakistan governments. Khan, charged with four counts of providing material support to a terrorist organization, has maintained that the money he sent from Miami to Pakistan was for his family members, the poor and a religious school, or madrassa, in the Swat Valley — not to arm the Taliban.

“They are totally our enemies,” Khan testified about the Taliban, despite his ardent statements of support in the FBI-recorded phone conversations.

Khan, a naturalized U.S. citizen who came to this country in 1994, sparred during cross-examination with Assistant U.S. Attorney John Shipley, who grew frustrated as the frail yet feisty imam dodged his questions about his true beliefs about terrorism.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/20/3244844...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#169165 Feb 24, 2013
LET'S KEEP THEM IGNORANT AND BACK IN THE 7TH CENTURY SO THEY CAN'T MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS

Iran’s first encounter with 3G technology chastised by Fatwa

Friday, 22 February 2013
Iran’s first encounter with the 3G mobile technology was disrupted by four ayatollahs’ fatwa stating the new mobile operation system to be a leading cause to sin.(Retuers)

By Al Arabiya

Four grand ayatollahs issued a fatwa that strips Iran’s third mobile phone operator from its rights to use a new 3G mobile internet operator.

The fatwa was issued towards Iran’s mobile service provider, Rightel, which enables customers to use video calling and multi-media messaging technology. The service uses 3G technology which is Iranian’s first encounter with telecommunication expansion.

Iran’s conservative parliament and the four grand ayatollahs are working on shutting down the 3G operator. Ayatollah Alavi Gorghani said providing this technology to the public would inflict damages on the country’s political and religion systems. Another ayatollah said the 3G service Rightel is leading to corruption of Iranians rather than benefiting them.

“It will cause new deviances in our society, which is unfortunately already plagued with deviances,” said ayatollah Makarem-Shirazi.
Residents of Qom, a religious city in Iran, signed a petition against Rightel on Feb. 10, the 34th anniversary of the Islamic Republic accusing the phone company of facilitating “access to sin and decadence”.

Despite what the Iranian government labels Rightel’s 3G service, citizens in Iran are delighted to experience the speedy internet.

Since: Jun 12

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#169166 Feb 24, 2013
Islam or death? Egypt's Christians targeted by new terror group

By Lisa Daftari

Published February 21, 2013

FoxNews.com

Clergymen gather to wait for the arrival of Egypt's Coptic Christian Pope Tawadros II, at the historic al-Muharraq Monastery, a centuries-old site some 180 miles (300 kilometers) south of Cairo in the province of Assiut, Egypt, Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2013.
Egypt's Coptic Christian pope sharply criticized the country's Islamist leadership in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday, saying the new constitution is discriminatory and Christians should not be treated as a minority.

A group of Christian priests from a local Coptic church in Egypt were told to convert to Islam or face death, according to an Arabic news site.

The incident, which comes in the midst of continued persecution and pressure on Egypt’s Christian community, took place this week in the town of Safaga, near the Red Sea, the El Balad site reported.

According to El Balad, the threats are from a new group in Egypt, Jihad al-Kufr, whose name translates to Jihad against non-believers or non-Muslims. The group targets non-Muslims, and reportedly pressures them to convert to Islam.

“It’s not the first time. This is happening every day,” said Adel Guindy, president of Coptic Solidarity and a member of Egypt’s Coptic community who travels between Paris and Cairo.“This one incident caught the attention of the news agencies, but there are worse things happening to the Christians every day in Egypt,” he said.

Christians have felt increasingly at risk since the fall of former President Hosni Mubarak in 2011, which resulted in the rise of President Mohammed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood movement.

“It has definitely worsened under the revolution. Once the worst part of the society surfaced -- the Islamists -- the Copts are paying a heavy price. The West doesn’t really feel our pain. It’s a war of attrition,” Guindy said.

Copts are the largest Christian community in the Middle East, and the most prominent religious minority in the region. Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt’s 85 million people.

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Who Is Allah? (Aug '07) 4 min Shamma 207,193
Targeted strikes against ISIS 6 min Your regular Joe 36
Why does ALLAH want MUSLIMS to bend over 5 tim... 7 min Darth Yoda 9
May Muslims have a prosperous 2015 wherever the... 14 min Your regular Joe 16
No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (... (Jan '11) 16 min undertaker A9 52,466
Have the Forum muslims run away? 19 min Your regular Joe 3
Non-Muslims have low iq 45 min Just a guy 179
How to to end Islam? Ideas please 2 hr Ravenclaw 201
Taliban storm Pakistani school - children massa... 11 hr screw her 32
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