50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE? part one

50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE? part one

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muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#1 Dec 21, 2006
truth hi to our brother
the information below its from the resource IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD? By Ahmed Deedat and think this information will help our Christens friend to find the truth .

FIFTY THOUSAND ERRORS (?)

The Jehovah's Witnesses in their "AWAKE!" Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline — "50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?" (See below for the reproduction).
While I was still formulating the theme of this booklet, I heard a knock at my door one Sunday morning. I opened the door. A European gentleman stood there, grinning broadly. "Good morning'" he said. "Good morning" I replied. He was offering me his "Awake" and "Watchtower" magazines. Yes, a Jehovah's Witness! If a few had knocked at your door previously, you will recognize them immediately. The most supercilious lot of people who ever knocked at people's doors! I invited him in.
As soon as he settled down, I produced the full reproduction of what you see below. Pointing to the monograph at the top of the page, I asked, "Is this your's?" He readily recognised his own. I said, "It says: 50 000 Errors in the Bible, is it true?" "What's that!" he exclaimed. I repeated, "I said, that it says, that there are 50 000 errors in your Bible." "Where did you get that?" He asked.(This was published 23 years ago, when he was perhaps a little nipper) I said, "Leave the fancy talk aside — is this your's?" pointing again to the monograph — "Awake!" He said, "Can I have a look?" "Of course," I said. I handed him the page. He started perusing. They (the Jehovah's Witnesses) are trained. They attend classes five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls." Naturally, they are the fittest missionaries among the thousand -and - one - sects - and - denominations of Christendom. They are taught that when cornered, do not commit yourself to anything, do not open your mouths. Wait for the Holy Ghost to inspire you with what to say.
I silently kept watching him, while he browsed the page. Suddenly he looked up. He had found it. The "Holy Ghost" had tickled him. He began, "The article says that "most of those errors have been eliminated." I asked "If MOST are eliminated, how many remain out of 50000? 5000? 500? 50? Even if 50 remain, do you attribute those errors to God?" He was speechless. He excused himself by suggesting that he will come again with some senior member of his Church. That will be the day!
If I had this booklet ready, I would have offered him, saying — "I would like to do you a favour, give me your name and address, and your telephone number. I will lend you this booklet — IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORD?" for 90 days. I want a written reply!" If you do this, And a few other Muslims do the same. They and the other missionaries will never darken your doors again. I believe that this publication will prove the most effective talisman to date. Insha-Allah!
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#2 Dec 21, 2006
continue the information above

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This "cult" of Jehovah's Witnesses which is so strong in its condemnation of the orthodox Trinitarians, for playing with the "Word of God," is itself playing the same game of semantic gymnastics. In the article under review — "50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?" — they say: "there are probably 50 000 errors ... errors that have crept into the Bible text ... 50000 such serious (?) errors… most of those so-called errors... as a whole the Bible is accurate." (?)
We do not have the time and space to go into the tens of thousands of — grave or minor — defects that the authors of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) have attempted to revise. We leave that privilege to the Christian scholars of the Bible. Here I will endeavour to cast just a cursory glance at a "half-a-dozen" or so of those "minor" changes.
1. "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a VIRGIN shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel."
(Isaiah 7:14 - AV)
The indispensable "VIRGIN" in the above verse has now been replaced in the RSV with the phrase "a young woman," which is the correct translation of the Hebrew word almah. Almah is the word which has occurred all along in the Hebrew text and NOT bethulah which means VIRGIN. This correction is only to be found in the English language translation, as the RSV is only published in this tongue. For the African and the Afrikaner, the Arab and the Zulu, in fact, in the 1 500 other languages of the world, Christians are made to continue to swallow the misnomer "VIRGIN."

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muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#3 Dec 21, 2006
continue the information above the information below from the book IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD? that's written by Ahmed Deedat and i think that's information will help our brother Christians to found the truth

FIFTY THOUSAND ERRORS (?)
The Jehovah's Witnesses in their "AWAKE!" Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline — "50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?" (See below for the reproduction).
While I was still formulating the theme of this booklet, I heard a knock at my door one Sunday morning. I opened the door. A European gentleman stood there, grinning broadly. "Good morning'" he said. "Good morning" I replied. He was offering me his "Awake" and "Watchtower" magazines. Yes, a Jehovah's Witness! If a few had knocked at your door previously, you will recognize them immediately. The most supercilious lot of people who ever knocked at people's doors! I invited him in.
As soon as he settled down, I produced the full reproduction of what you see below. Pointing to the monograph at the top of the page, I asked, "Is this your's?" He readily recognised his own. I said, "It says: 50 000 Errors in the Bible, is it true?" "What's that!" he exclaimed. I repeated, "I said, that it says, that there are 50 000 errors in your Bible." "Where did you get that?" He asked.(This was published 23 years ago, when he was perhaps a little nipper) I said, "Leave the fancy talk aside — is this your's?" pointing again to the monograph — "Awake!" He said, "Can I have a look?" "Of course," I said. I handed him the page. He started perusing. They (the Jehovah's Witnesses) are trained. They attend classes five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls." Naturally, they are the fittest missionaries among the thousand -and - one - sects - and - denominations of Christendom. They are taught that when cornered, do not commit yourself to anything, do not open your mouths. Wait for the Holy Ghost to inspire you with what to say.

I silently kept watching him, while he browsed the page. Suddenly he looked up. He had found it. The "Holy Ghost" had tickled him. He began, "The article says that "most of those errors have been eliminated." I asked "If MOST are eliminated, how many remain out of 50000? 5000? 500? 50? Even if 50 remain, do you attribute those errors to God?" He was speechless. He excused himself by suggesting that he will come again with some senior member of his Church. That will be the day!
If I had this booklet ready, I would have offered him, saying — "I would like to do you a favour, give me your name and address, and your telephone number. I will lend you this booklet — IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORD?" for 90 days. I want a written reply!" If you do this, And a few other Muslims do the same. They and the other missionaries will never darken your doors again. I believe that this publication will prove the most effective talisman to date. Insha-Allah!
Postit

Diablo, CA

#4 Dec 21, 2006
muslim man wrote:
truth hi to our brother
the information below its from the resource IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD? By Ahmed Deedat and think this information will help our Christens friend to find the truth .
FIFTY THOUSAND ERRORS (?)
The Jehovah's Witnesses in their "AWAKE!" Magazine dated 8 September, 1957, carried this startling headline — "50000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?" (See below for the reproduction).
While I was still formulating the theme of this booklet, I heard a knock at my door one Sunday morning. I opened the door. A European gentleman stood there, grinning broadly. "Good morning'" he said. "Good morning" I replied. He was offering me his "Awake" and "Watchtower" magazines. Yes, a Jehovah's Witness! If a few had knocked at your door previously, you will recognize them immediately. The most supercilious lot of people who ever knocked at people's doors! I invited him in.
As soon as he settled down, I produced the full reproduction of what you see below. Pointing to the monograph at the top of the page, I asked, "Is this your's?" He readily recognised his own. I said, "It says: 50 000 Errors in the Bible, is it true?" "What's that!" he exclaimed. I repeated, "I said, that it says, that there are 50 000 errors in your Bible." "Where did you get that?" He asked.(This was published 23 years ago, when he was perhaps a little nipper) I said, "Leave the fancy talk aside — is this your's?" pointing again to the monograph — "Awake!" He said, "Can I have a look?" "Of course," I said. I handed him the page. He started perusing. They (the Jehovah's Witnesses) are trained. They attend classes five times a week in their "Kingdom Halls." Naturally, they are the fittest missionaries among the thousand -and - one - sects - and - denominations of Christendom. They are taught that when cornered, do not commit yourself to anything, do not open your mouths. Wait for the Holy Ghost to inspire you with what to say.
I silently kept watching him, while he browsed the page. Suddenly he looked up. He had found it. The "Holy Ghost" had tickled him. He began, "The article says that "most of those errors have been eliminated." I asked "If MOST are eliminated, how many remain out of 50000? 5000? 500? 50? Even if 50 remain, do you attribute those errors to God?" He was speechless. He excused himself by suggesting that he will come again with some senior member of his Church. That will be the day!
If I had this booklet ready, I would have offered him, saying — "I would like to do you a favour, give me your name and address, and your telephone number. I will lend you this booklet — IS THE BIBLE GOD'S WORD?" for 90 days. I want a written reply!" If you do this, And a few other Muslims do the same. They and the other missionaries will never darken your doors again. I believe that this publication will prove the most effective talisman to date. Insha-Allah!
FYI: Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT christians.
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#5 Dec 21, 2006
No my brother the Jehovah's Witnesses are pleas see this information from wikipedia web site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witn...
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#6 Dec 21, 2006
No my brother the Jehovah's Witnesses are christians. pleas see this information from wikipedia web site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witn...
Postit

Diablo, CA

#7 Dec 21, 2006
muslim man wrote:
No my brother the Jehovah's Witnesses are christians. pleas see this information from wikipedia web site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witn...
Don't make a fool of yourself here.
Postit

Diablo, CA

#8 Dec 21, 2006
muslim man wrote:
No my brother the Jehovah's Witnesses are christians. pleas see this information from wikipedia web site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witn...
Not every organization claiming to be christian is christian. JW is against the central teaching of christianity. Would you like any organization claiming to be Islam to speak on behalf of your religion?

And from your wikipedia link, this is the statement.
"In contrast to mainstream Christianity, Jehovah's Witnesses reject doctrines such as the Trinity, eternal torment in hell, the immortality of the soul. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that only 144,000 people will receive the reward of eternal life in heaven with Jesus Christ"
Postit

Diablo, CA

#9 Dec 21, 2006
muslim man wrote:
No my brother the Jehovah's Witnesses are christians. pleas see this information from wikipedia web site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witn...
Just like Paul Finley from CAIR, who in his book claims that christians are "also" polygamy because mormons have more than 1 wife, etc. And again, mormons are not christians, don't use them to justify Islam's 4 wifes!
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#10 Dec 21, 2006
Ok my brother I will put some of that’s error in the bible ,note :- this information below the information below its from the resource IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD? By Ahmed Deedat and think this information will help our Christens friend to find the truth .

. "WHO ARE THE REAL AUTHORS?
As further evidence will be adduced from "Samuel" and "Chronicles" I deem it advisable first to determine their authors instead of suspecting God of those books' incongruities. The Revisers of the RSV say:
(a) SAMUEL: Author "Unknown" (Just one word)
(b) CHRONICLES: Author "Unknown, probably collected and edited by Ezra."
We must admire the humility of these Bible scholars, but their "possiblys" "probablys" and "likelys" are always construed as ACTUALLY'S by their fleeced sheep. Why make poor Ezra or Isaiah the scapegoats for these anonymous writers? "
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#11 Dec 21, 2006
Another error

note :- this information below the information below its from the resource IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD? By Ahmed Deedat and think this information will help our Christens friend to find the truth .."WHO ARE THE REAL AUTHORS?

WHAT DID THE LORD DECREE 3 YEARS FAMINE OR 7 YEARS FAMINE?

II SAMUEL 24:13
13.So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? Or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue, thee?

I CHRONICLES 21:11
11. So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee
12. Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

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If God is the Author of every single word, comma and full-stop in the Bible, as the Christians claim, then is He the Author of the above arithmetical discrepancy as well?
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Lethe

Prague, Czech Republic

#12 Dec 21, 2006
Postit wrote:
<quoted text>
FYI: Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT christians.
Jehovahœ Witnesses know probably better than you, if they member themself among Christians or not.
Postit

Diablo, CA

#13 Dec 21, 2006
Lethe wrote:
<quoted text>
Jehovahœ Witnesses know probably better than you, if they member themself among Christians or not.
The apes probably know better than you whether they are among human or not. No offense, just repeating your logic.
Postit

Diablo, CA

#15 Dec 21, 2006
muslim man wrote:
Another error
note :- this information below the information below its from the resource IS THE BIBLE GODS WORD? By Ahmed Deedat and think this information will help our Christens friend to find the truth .."WHO ARE THE REAL AUTHORS?
WHAT DID THE LORD DECREE 3 YEARS FAMINE OR 7 YEARS FAMINE?
II SAMUEL 24:13
13.So Gad came to David, and told him, and said unto him, Shall seven years of famine come unto thee in thy land? Or wilt thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue, thee?
I CHRONICLES 21:11
11. So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee
12. Either three years' famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;
==========
If God is the Author of every single word, comma and full-stop in the Bible, as the Christians claim, then is He the Author of the above arithmetical discrepancy as well?
==========
I don't want to spend any more time here. I heard Ahmad Deedad's debate with Anis Shorros before and he just didn't get it.

Please check

http://www.answering-islam.org
Lethe

Prague, Czech Republic

#16 Dec 21, 2006
Postit wrote:
<quoted text>
The apes probably know better than you whether they are among human or not. No offense, just repeating your logic.
It was already happened in history and we leter called them first homo- sapiens- sapiens....

Since: Dec 06

Bristol

#17 Dec 21, 2006
Eh, Muslim Man , dude, I thought this was a forum to debate Islam. We know what you are doing. You think that by showing that the bible has mistakes in it, we will somehow ignore all the mistakes in the Koran. Brilliant; you are really a smart cookie.
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#18 Dec 21, 2006
Postit wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't want to spend any more time here. I heard Ahmad Deedad's debate with Anis Shorros before and he just didn't get it.
Please check
http://www.answering-islam.org
ooh my brother this web site is a web site that’s try to give a wrong information about the Islam
I am give above some of the error and I have many another error so pleas read it and give me one answer is the bible the god word ? and what did you say about that’s error in the bible ?
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#19 Dec 21, 2006
Postit wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't want to spend any more time here. I heard Ahmad Deedad's debate with Anis Shorros before and he just didn't get it.
Please check
http://www.answering-islam.org
That’s true Ahmad didat doesn't say that’s when he meeting Anis Shorros because that’s meeting about is Jesus god ?
muslim man

Amman, Jordan

#20 Dec 21, 2006
Paulo wrote:
Eh, Muslim Man , dude, I thought this was a forum to debate Islam. We know what you are doing. You think that by showing that the bible has mistakes in it, we will somehow ignore all the mistakes in the Koran. Brilliant; you are really a smart cookie.
Oooh pleas my brother read the qoran and give me one error form the qoran I think that’s you should find the true why the bible have a large number of error see it and answer is the bible the god word ?
Postit

Diablo, CA

#21 Dec 21, 2006
muslim man wrote:
<quoted text>
Oooh pleas my brother read the qoran and give me one error form the qoran I think that’s you should find the true why the bible have a large number of error see it and answer is the bible the god word ?
Ask me to read Koran? I haven't read the entire Quran yet but enough to tell that it isn't very 'Godly'(and of course probably I wasn't 'understant it as the whole' or wasn't given the 'light' and whatsoever as I have heard many times, so I'll take the blame).

Have you really read the Quran yourself?

Of course I'm pointing you to a non-islamic site that tries to answer your questions. Or did you expect me to direct you to an islamic site so that you'll only hear what you like to hear? What is the point of doing that? Do you prefer walking in circle?

I have at least been true to myself by examining different religions (I was born an atheist, but now a Christian). And have you been using "double standard" when dealing with Christian issues and Islam issues? I'll let you think about that yourself and I won't come back to this site too often from now on.

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