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Since: Jun 12

Australia

#63 Feb 22, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text>really i do not understand which post u r talking about number 1 or 3? say and i will explain insha ALLAH.
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1, 3 and 5. Seems muslims are incapable of philosophical thought concerning their ideology.

Question. Is what they do against your god's instructions?

If yes, then covering up is defying your god,and hypocrisy on the part of the oath breaker. don't ask me to quote the surah, but there are some which concern hiding other's misbehaviour as a sin.

If not, then why raise such an issue in the first place?

Are you going to tackle this question?
Or just ignore it as another unanswerable islamic contradiction?
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Sanaa, Yemen

#64 Feb 22, 2013
hi Old Pom? y u r so angry on me?

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#65 Feb 22, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
hi Old Pom? y u r so angry on me?
Why do you ask such dishonest questions?

It's obvious he's not angry with you. Is this the only way you know to avoid having an intelligent discussion about Islam?
John

Brisbane, Australia

#67 Feb 22, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
Abu'l-Haytham said, "Some people came to 'Uqba ibn 'Amir and said,'We have some neighbours who drink (wine) and behave incorrectly. Shall we bring them before the ruler?''No,' he replied,'I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, "Whoever sees the fault of a Muslim and then veils it, it is as if he brought girl buried alive back to life from her grave.''"
Is there any imbecilic quip of the lunatic false prophet that you muztards don't obey?
Instead of pointing out the self evident - that whether somebody drinks or not is not a question of crime and none of his neighbour's business mad mo the paedophile butchering rapist drivels some crap justifying the protection of muztards who are terrorists, paedophiles, thieves, swindlers, etc.
Hmm, no wonder muztard societies tolerate all manner of sick behaviour from the fanatics.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#68 Feb 22, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
hi Old Pom? y u r so angry on me?
Now ash, this is another example of your melodrama. Old Pom was polite to you. He asked you a question, and you wussed out of answering. Don't play the coward, man up and answer the question. Or admit that you don't know the answer. Playing this little victim game doesn't help your position. It makes you look weak and makes islam look irrelevant. Is that what you want?

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#69 Feb 23, 2013
Raven, that's what it looks like Ash wants.
Islam is irrelevant anyways.
george whyte

Malton, UK

#70 Feb 23, 2013
UK: Birmingham's Muslim community did not inform police of jihad terror plot

The community knew the plotters were sending people to jihad terror training camps in Pakistan, but did nothing. Could it be because far more people in the community than anyone would like to admit hold to the same ideology as that of the plotters? "Birmingham's Muslim community did not inform police of terrorism plot,"

No-one in the Birmingham bomb plotters' own community tipped the police off with their concerns, despite finding out they were sending young men to terror training camps in Pakistan.
Three Birmingham men were found guilty of planning a massive terrorist bomb attack, while a further six had previously admitted their involvement in the plans.

But at no point during the 18-month investigation by the West Midlands counter-terrorism unit did anyone in Birmingham's Muslim community inform on the behaviour of Irfan Naseer, Irfan Khalid and Ashik Ali, raising questions over the health of relations between officers and community leaders.

This was despite the fact the families of four other young men recruited from Sparkhill all intervened to bring them back home the moment they found out the real reasons for them travelling to Pakistan.

Detective Inspector Adam Gough, senior investigating officer, said the extended families of the four men had "become aware" of why they went to Pakistan but, in any case, "did not tell us".

Ishaaq Hussain, Shahid Khan, Khobaib Hussain and Naweed Ali were told to tell loved ones they were studying at madrassas if asked.

Police and security services were aware the four were travelling but decided against stopping them to preserve the surveillance operation and because evidence-gathering was in the early stages.

According to detectives, none of the men received any terror training as they left the camps after a day.

Mr Gough said: "We know pressure was applied to them to come back.

"Shahid Khan virtually ran home. Three of the four came back almost immediately, while the fourth stayed with his family in Pakistan.

"We know that they did reach a training camp.

"But it is a success story in that the families did bring those people back and it shows the vast majority of the community abhor terrorism in the same way we do."

Community engagement - under what the police call the Prevent programme - is supposed to form a cornerstone of the UK counter-terrorism policing strategy.

Prevent aims to respond "to the ideological challenge of terrorism" by "developing partnerships" with communities, thereby preventing people being "drawn into terrorism".

Assistant Chief Constable Marcus Beale, who is responsible for counter-terrorism at West Midlands Police, said: "The families were trying to do their best to get them back and stop them getting into trouble, rather than get in touch with us.

"I agree it would have been really good if more could have been shared with us, and we could have dealt with it in a different way.

"In terms of community engagement, would I like them to come forward more? Yes, I would.

"Do I think they (the Muslim community) were being disruptive - no, I do not."

Mr Beale also said he believed the two local charitable organisations on whose behalf the three men had masqueraded to raise money "were duped, rather than being complicit".

He added: "We want to help make sure they (the charities) are not quite so easily duped in the future."

Some of that money scammed from charities was actually gambled away by another member of the group, Rahin Ahmed, who was given the task of playing the financial markets to try to increase the group's cash reserves.

He previously admitted engaging in conduct in preparation of acts of terror, encouraging acts of terror, collecting money for terrorism and assisting other to travel for training in terrorism....
george whyte

Malton, UK

#71 Feb 23, 2013
And in the US, Hamas-linked CAIR tells Muslims not to help law enforcement

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/cairs-hones...

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#72 Feb 23, 2013
Trisha wrote:
Raven, that's what it looks like Ash wants.
Islam is irrelevant anyways.
I asked ash the same question in another thread, and look at his response. He simply avoids answering any questions and winds up looking like an uneducated doofus.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TVM...
Trisha

Harrisonville, MO

#73 Feb 23, 2013
Ravenclaw wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked ash the same question in another thread, and look at his response. He simply avoids answering any questions and winds up looking like an uneducated doofus.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TVM...
He's also coming off creepy with you and Jesus Is lately.
(I'm not signed in atm)
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Sanaa, Yemen

#74 Feb 23, 2013
man Jesus Is like my sister i love her as a my own sister stop this.
Trisha

Harrisonville, MO

#75 Feb 23, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
man Jesus Is like my sister i love her as a my own sister stop this.
Grow up, I am NOT taking orders from you!
harrington mugglesworth

UK

#76 Feb 23, 2013
i have encountered the same response many times - question a muslim about his religion and you are deemed as being angry ( why are you so angry ?)islam means submission to peace ?? no it means be docile else i will destroy your thinking processes with this sword.

Since: Apr 11

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#78 Feb 23, 2013
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text> joke all here bring news and when i answer them they do not believe so y i will answer 4 blocked minds? i know how they will response 2 me so y i will burn my CNS.
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