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Girish

Mumbai, India

#119 Dec 15, 2011
Chitpavan are the most idiotic personalities in the world. They think thereself as aryan but they dnt have any features of aryans. They are mad behind girls. Two side speakers. Kanjoos. I believe they are fare because their women's slept under firangs since long back. India's skin tone is Sawala... even Krishna bhagwan is sawale....
Vikram is the most chakram person on the earth.
Sher- a- rajput

Kogarah, Australia

#120 Dec 25, 2011
Whatever they are,
But I thing is sure
they are the biggest Mader...CH000tt
Sher- a- rajput

Kogarah, Australia

#121 Dec 25, 2011
B for Bamans = B for Bastar....ds
Raj Shekar

UK

#122 Jun 18, 2012
wow, you are all unbelievable !. Muslim Invaders came, & killed all the men, children, raped all the women in the regions they ruled.
so thats why the North Indians are fair. thats why North Hindus & Muslims are identical in looks & features.
Hindi is a persian Arabic language, it is identical to Urdu. All north languages Bengali, Punjabi, Bhojpuri, Odisi, Marathi etc.. are all persian arabic.
Raj Shekar

UK

#123 Jun 18, 2012
so much for the aryan race theory - LOL !!
Nene Rahul

Bangalore, India

#124 Aug 16, 2012
We are now Indians / Hindustani nothing more nothing less .

Those who are posting derogative remarks should shut up . It only shows their mentality of insecurity.

Jai Hind
vibha

Airdrie, UK

#126 Nov 4, 2012
the original mutations of mtdna and y dna haplotypes of chitpawan brahmins that vikram has previously cited are traceable to around 25000 years ago. it means that the ancestors of chitpawans, both maternal and paternal, in common with those of caucasians, east europeans, askenazi semites( they are not jews, though. by religion they are mostly christians and muslims due to later dayconversions), greeks etc. as of 25000 years ago were common. they further spread out to india and middle east and europe due migrations over the next 25000 years. the chitpawans inherited the original veda which was then only one, before it was branched into four parts rig, yajus, sam and atharvan by krishnadwaipayan vyasa of mahabharata fame, about 5000 years ago. they had been in the panvedic vast geographical area of those times, stretching from india, pakistan, afghanistan to bactria, caucasious region, caspian sea, black sea, iraq, iran, turkastan, middle east etc. just around 4000 to 5000 years ago, they came to settle southwards from north benares, ahichatrapur, ujjain etc in india to ambejogai, mahur areas in maharashtra. around 2000 years ago, invited by mayursharma and mukanna kadamba emperors of vanavasi in karnataka, they settled in gokak region. later on they spread to kavei river basin, further migrating to guhagar, chiplun etc in kokan region at the behest of the kings there for performing yajnas on their behalf and since then their caste people from all over india joined them there over the pariod 2000 to 1800 years ago. since then they are there. their previous benaras origion is substantiated by the fact that they are smartas, who honour shiva. similarly, their vindhyavasini devi and ambejogai devi as kuldevatas show their old residence at vindhyachal in uttar pradesh and in marathwada. this history has been gleaned from my research paper on the origins of chitpawan brahmins.
mash

Mumbai, India

#128 Mar 26, 2013
Andhra_arya2000 wrote:
<quoted text>
dude not only Andhra Brahmins but many Andhra people (not telangana) are aryans.
The earliest mention of the Andhras is said to be in Aitereya Brahmana (2000 BC). It indicates that the Andhras, originally an Aryan race living in north India migrated to south of the Vindhyas and later mixed with non-Aryans. Regular history of Andhra Desa, according to historians, begins with 236 BC, the year of Ashoka's death. During the following centuries, Satavahanas, Sakas, Ikshvakus, Eastern Chalukyas, Kakatiyas ruled the Telugu country.
I think there is some Italian connection to Andhra guys. Some surnames like yelisatti, torgatti are examples.
sandeep kale

Pune, India

#129 Jun 3, 2013
Mandaraste wrote:
Brahmins are originally Dravidian....the purest in Maharashtra are the Deshastha....their other sub-branches are
1- Kokanastha or Chitpawan - who originated in the 1600s-1700s from a inter-marriage of Deshastha men and concubines freely available at various ports on the western coast of India which was under Maratha and Habshi control.
2- Karhade or Karada - who originated in the 300-600 AD, as a result of inter-marriage of Kshaharata (Saka) men and Satavahana / Silahara (now Deshastha) women, after the fall of the Western Satrap kingdom.
You are gone mad. you dont know anything about history. Kokanasth brahmins entered in India on the western coast of Maharashtra before 5000 yrs. The group seperated from the aryons.
sandeep kale

Pune, India

#130 Jun 3, 2013
vibha wrote:
the original mutations of mtdna and y dna haplotypes of chitpawan brahmins that vikram has previously cited are traceable to around 25000 years ago. it means that the ancestors of chitpawans, both maternal and paternal, in common with those of caucasians, east europeans, askenazi semites( they are not jews, though. by religion they are mostly christians and muslims due to later dayconversions), greeks etc. as of 25000 years ago were common. they further spread out to india and middle east and europe due migrations over the next 25000 years. the chitpawans inherited the original veda which was then only one, before it was branched into four parts rig, yajus, sam and atharvan by krishnadwaipayan vyasa of mahabharata fame, about 5000 years ago. they had been in the panvedic vast geographical area of those times, stretching from india, pakistan, afghanistan to bactria, caucasious region, caspian sea, black sea, iraq, iran, turkastan, middle east etc. just around 4000 to 5000 years ago, they came to settle southwards from north benares, ahichatrapur, ujjain etc in india to ambejogai, mahur areas in maharashtra. around 2000 years ago, invited by mayursharma and mukanna kadamba emperors of vanavasi in karnataka, they settled in gokak region. later on they spread to kavei river basin, further migrating to guhagar, chiplun etc in kokan region at the behest of the kings there for performing yajnas on their behalf and since then their caste people from all over india joined them there over the pariod 2000 to 1800 years ago. since then they are there. their previous benaras origion is substantiated by the fact that they are smartas, who honour shiva. similarly, their vindhyavasini devi and ambejogai devi as kuldevatas show their old residence at vindhyachal in uttar pradesh and in marathwada. this history has been gleaned from my research paper on the origins of chitpawan brahmins.
Very good
Afghan

Mississauga, Canada

#131 Jun 30, 2013
I heard they were pathans?
Egyptavan

Oxford, UK

#132 Oct 18, 2013
Kokanastha Brahmins are the descendants of native Greco-Roman Empires. If one is to believe the mythology of Aeneas written in Virgil's Aeneid, then Koknastha Brahmins are the descendants of the people that built Rome anew.

My take in my peer reviewed essay on the subject of the origin of Koknastha Brahmins was that Koknastha Brahmans came to India via sea routes, and were washed up on the shore, either by chance, or deliberately. I argued that the name Chit-pavan is an Indo-Greek transliteration of the word Egyptavan, which means "hailing from Egypt". During the migration of the European Caucasoids to Egypt, the early ancestors of Koknastha Brahmins behaved like nomads, looking for a place to call home. This is documented in early Greeko-Roman journals and books like the Aeneid. Moving across Asia, through Egypt and Iran, these early ancestors developed seafaring capabilities, and eventually landed in India. I am still unsure of when they landed on the coast of Maharashtra and Gujarat, and do not seek to make a comment on the same. The closest "relatives" of Koknastha Brahmins are the Bene Israelis, and some people argue that Parsi people are the "cousins" of Koknastha Brahmins, who mingled with the coastal seafaring population of Gujarat.

There is one thing I would like to point out though. One should be careful in indulging in subjects such as these, and try to view them clinically. In this discussion, some people have chosen to say that Koknastha Brhamin ladies were essentially used like common prostitutes. If the person concerned is sure about this, i'd like him to substantiate his claim with proof. Surely such a preposterous claim has some basis to it, right?

In conclusion, I'd like to state that prejudice will get us nowhere. It is on this note, that I rest my case.
Kobra in Search of Source

Seattle, WA

#133 Oct 23, 2013
Hi Guys,

You like it or not, Aryan term always create problems. Eventually we originated from same source.

But if someone want explore real origion of Kokanathas then they need to go in history.
Kokanastha share the same ancestors like bene israel both are from same origin.

But they migrated long back in 1400-1500 AD in India, not only Kokanasthas, but Nambudris of Kerala, Iyengars of Tamilnadu & Bannerji, Chatterjis of Bengal share the same genes.

Hope this will satisfy the curiousiy, instead of kicking each ones ass.


Since: Jul 14

Location hidden

#134 Sep 26, 2014
@ Kobra in search of source: Chitpavans are neither Brahmins nor Aryans.They r ASHKENAZI JEWS. This has been proved by their own man Jay Dikshit by genetic DNA tests. Read his book
''Chitpavanism''. CPs look like Europeans with cat-like grey eyes.
VIGHNESH

Chennai, India

#136 Monday Oct 6
Raj Shekar wrote:
wow, you are all unbelievable !. Muslim Invaders came, & killed all the men, children, raped all the women in the regions they ruled.
so thats why the North Indians are fair. thats why North Hindus & Muslims are identical in looks & features.
Hindi is a persian Arabic language, it is identical to Urdu. All north languages Bengali, Punjabi, Bhojpuri, Odisi, Marathi etc.. are all persian arabic.
Your post shows your ignorance.Even as South Indian languages are basically Dravidian languages but were later on Sanskritized, North Indian languages are basically Aryan languages of Sanskrit origin which were later on Arabicised & Persianised by the Muslim invaders. Even now Hindu organisations like the Ramakrishna Mission publish thousands of Hindi books in pure Hindi without using any Arabic & Persian words. Urdu IS AN ARTIFICIAL LANGUAGE CREATED BY THE MUSLIM INVADERS. DESANSKRITISED & HEAVILY ARABICISED & PERSIANISED HINDI WRITTEN IN PERSIAN SCRIPT (CALLED NAQSH- A-FARSI) IS CALLED URDU. But unfortunately most North Indians don't know which is a Sanskrit word & which are Arabic & Persian words. By the way I AM A SOUTH INDIAN. You must be a Tamil non-Brahmin. Only they have so much hatred for anything North Indian.

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