Why Hindus are cowards (The reason)

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Ashish

Devon, PA

#1 Feb 26, 2009
I think Hindu cowardice is rooted in many things:

a) I believe Desis are a cowardly race in general. Yes even Pakis and Banglas are cowards (but less than Hindus for sure and look the point b for reason).

b) Hindus are extremely divided. They will divide themselves along caste (sub caste within caste), culture, state, sect, language, dialect etc etc and pretty much anything else you can think of. This kind of disunity promotes insecurity, jealousy, hatred, fear, mistrust among ourselves. A disunited people will always doubt themselves. This is the major reason why Ghaznavi, Ghori, Abdali took control of such a huge country with a few thousand soldiers. And this is also the reason why there is a good chance that Indian Union will break up despite all the economic growth. The base of our society is "khokla". I remember a Pakistani defence analyst saying this on television and I actually agree with this. When I came here as a student, most of the other Indian students were Telgu (from India) or ABCD (American Born Confused Desi) and they behaved in a way much worse than local Americans and I was quite appalled by this. I have also heard people saying that Indian professors and Indian employers are the harshest on other Indians. This is the most pathetic aspect of ours that we hate our own kind the most.(BTW nothing against telgus because I've seen that pretty much all Indians are the same i.e. chatting in their own language, ignoring others, showing attitude etc).

c) Religion often acts as a morale booster. At least this is true in case of Muslims. Muslims were very few in the beginning of Islam but they faced opponents three-four times their size and defeated them convincingly. They attacked and eventually conquered Constantinople because it was mentioned in one of their hadeeth that a Muslim army will occupy Constantinople and this army will go to jannaat (heaven). Hadeeth also has a prophecy about "Ghazwa-e-Hind" (Conquest of India) and Muslims of subcontinent are now claiming that the time for this war is near and I get a feeling that this will eventually happen (India becoming Islamic) if Hindus continue going the same way. Muslims really hold their beliefs close to the heart and they are full of confidence because of this. In Iraq, American army is getting slaughtered slowly and in Afghanistan, 3/4 of the land has come under Taliban control. Karzai can't even get out of his house. I'm not a Muslim sympathizer but just ask yourself how this is happening. Religion is a morale booster for them. And Hinduism has been marketed as a "anything goes" "go with the flow" kind of religion everywhere. The western "gurus" are playing a part in this. This is really dangerous because this is causing people to create their own interpretations of Hinduism based on secular beliefs. This is why Hinduism today is nothing more than idolatory, senseless rituals, polytheism, caste system, cow worship. I've seen Hindus claiming that smoking, drinking, drugs, homosexuality, robbing, cheating etc etc is all cool in Hinduism because Hinduism has "no rules". It is all being done to show that Hinduism is more compatible with west and it is a very liberal religion. Do you honestly think such a liberal, "anything goes", "go with the flow" religion with no rules can inspire its followers to fight ? No wonder people fall for this crap rather than reading the message of Gita where krsna asks arjuna to fight. Promotion of Hinduism as secular is what is causing Hindus to go to sufi mazars, churches, gurudwaras and thus weakening their own belief. Do Sikhs, Christians and Muslims even step into a temple ?(Granted some misguided Sikhs do but majority don't) Hindus need to quit preaching "all paths lead to one god" crap because it has been taken in a wrong way.

“lol”

Since: Sep 07

Miami

#2 Feb 26, 2009
I'm also going to repost my response to this:

On point b, you have to agree every group is internally divided. The Muslims have the Shia-Sunni divide which I think takes more lives than Hindu-Muslim overall.

As for point c, let's agree on a few things. This "anything goes" sort of Hinduism is something among the urban upper-middle class Hindus and NRIs, not a grassroots phenomenon. Ironically, it is US who are the most Hindutvad, because our education/intellect/exposure allows us to analyze the history and trends much better than the superstitious fellows in the villages. I remember reading once on Indian Muslims forum on Orkut one fellow remarking that the more educated and atheistic the Hindu becomes, the more anti-Muslim he is. No wonder that Veer Savarkar the founder of Sangh Parivar was an atheist himself.

So let us analyze the Hinduism that is prevalent in the grassroots majority of India (not the Hinduism that we perceive to be all around us since our atmosphere is restricted to the urban upper-middle classes and NRIs). You quote the Geeta and Krishna-Arjun conversation. Remember this is a story from Vedic period when the situation in India was not too different from the ancient Middle East that gave birth to violent monotheism religions of Judaism/Christianity/Islam. However with greater economic prosperity and stability and proper stratification of the society into stabilized castes, the Vedic period ended and hence Vedantic period began (when Buddhism was born).
I'm not "blaming" Buddhism or the Vedantic Hinduism, but this is ultimately what is killing us today.
Imagine a scenario like the aftermath of Mumbai attacks. You have the city-bred Hindu/atheistic youth whose blood is boiling, ready to send a squad into Pakistan and shoot up a nursery school. And you have the Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, the real pious Hindu, who will tell you this is all illusion, that these feelings of vengeance and anger are material-world feelings that are clouding your mind, rise above it, etc. This is the same crap as Hey Ram movie, where the Hinduism and the human/animal-instincts juxtapose themselves.

Hindus have refused to switch back the switch from Vedantic to Vedic period of Geeta and Krishna telling Arjun subversive honorless warfare is alright. Quoting me from Bhagvad Geeta is like quoting to an Egyptian Muslim from the religion of Pharoahs, most Hindus don't practice that but the prevalent philosophy is the Vedantic stuff.

The secular/liberal/atheistic Hindu is more likely to have the fire in him to give political Islam a fight, not the grassroots pious Hindus.

“lol”

Since: Sep 07

Miami

#3 Feb 26, 2009
Don't confuse the inherent secularism of Hinduism with the political movement for Hindutva. The Western culture is also very secular internally but when it is attacked from outside like 9/11, they will avenge tenfold (and this retaliation is not based on any of their religions or any of their ideologies). The Chinese are also very secular internally, but on some things, they have clear-cut rules: the Christians do not answer to Vatican, the Muslims are also kept cut off from the radical frequencies emanating from rest of Muslim world. The Chinese do not confuse their secularism for when something needs to be done for defense/securement of their people.

Hindutva is simply a movement for Hindus to do the same. However, low IQ idiots in Bajrang Dal are analyzing the whole situation wrong and instead of taking a Chinese or Western approach towards securing India, they are taking the destructive Islamic approach of confusing religion and morals with politics. They want to create the same sort of "discipline" in Hindus.

Look, one thing is a free man will never voluntarily become a slave again. Someone who is secular and liberal will never submit to dogma ruling their lives. Best way to make alliances with these people is simply say they won't interfere with their personal lives but agree on like-mindedness with regards to threats to the nation.

“ I Am She SaHum”

Since: Apr 07

World

#5 Feb 26, 2009
Ashish wrote:
In Iraq, American army is getting slaughtered slowly and in Afghanistan, 3/4 of the land has come under Taliban control.
You are right about Afghanistan it remains a problem. Mostly because we picked an incompetent leader for 8 years. We are not getting slaughtered in Iraq we have only lost 4000 troops since 2003. One life lost is to many but our causality rate is militarily insignificant. Each month or casualty rate drops. Why do we stay in Iraq so they will not kill each other. 600,000 Iraq have all ready died. Most of them by the hands of Iraqis. Don't get me wrong I never like this war. Itís a big waste of blood and treasure.

Afghanistan is different story. The War was won and we made the choice to go to Iraq. If we would have treated Afghanistan like post W.W.II Japan and Germany it would now be a different story.

I believe there still is hope. General Petraeus has shown himself to be an artist at counterinsurgency. I hope this has a good ending for everyone concerned. Also your stat of 3/4 of Afghanistan has come under Taliban control. Is way to high. Its about 1/2. We have done nothing to stop it. This still can be turned around.
Lungi Ram

Faridabad, India

#6 Feb 26, 2009
baad indyan wrote:
Don't confuse the inherent secularism of Hinduism with the political movement for Hindutva. The Western culture is also very secular internally but when it is attacked from outside like 9/11, they will avenge tenfold (and this retaliation is not based on any of their religions or any of their ideologies). The Chinese are also very secular internally, but on some things, they have clear-cut rules: the Christians do not answer to Vatican, the Muslims are also kept cut off from the radical frequencies emanating from rest of Muslim world. The Chinese do not confuse their secularism for when something needs to be done for defense/securement of their people.
Hindutva is simply a movement for Hindus to do the same. However, low IQ idiots in Bajrang Dal are analyzing the whole situation wrong and instead of taking a Chinese or Western approach towards securing India, they are taking the destructive Islamic approach of confusing religion and morals with politics. They want to create the same sort of "discipline" in Hindus.
Look, one thing is a free man will never voluntarily become a slave again. Someone who is secular and liberal will never submit to dogma ruling their lives. Best way to make alliances with these people is simply say they won't interfere with their personal lives but agree on like-mindedness with regards to threats to the nation.
Dear Baad Indiyan you should call yourself 'True Indian' or 'Logical Indian'
Ashish

Devon, PA

#7 Feb 26, 2009
Want to be Hindu wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right about Afghanistan it remains a problem. Mostly because we picked an incompetent leader for 8 years. We are not getting slaughtered in Iraq we have only lost 4000 troops since 2003. One life lost is to many but our causality rate is militarily insignificant. Each month or casualty rate drops. Why do we stay in Iraq so they will not kill each other. 600,000 Iraq have all ready died. Most of them by the hands of Iraqis. Don't get me wrong I never like this war. Itís a big waste of blood and treasure.
As much as I hate Islamic extremism, I support all forms of Iraqi resistance to drive out White imperialists from their lands.
Afghanistan is different story. The War was won and we made the choice to go to Iraq. If we would have treated Afghanistan like post W.W.II Japan and Germany it would now be a different story.
I believe there still is hope. General Petraeus has shown himself to be an artist at counterinsurgency. I hope this has a good ending for everyone concerned. Also your stat of 3/4 of Afghanistan has come under Taliban control. Is way to high. Its about 1/2. We have done nothing to stop it. This still can be turned around.
I have afghani friends. 3/4 of Afghanistan is under Taliban's control. Americans are loosing ever day to a rag tag army. And I hope you know that Taliban and Wahabism is also a creation of America.
Nan

New York, NY

#8 Feb 28, 2009
Yes,their backward caste system is affecting their people,kids,and future generation...Globally.

Brahmins are clustering to be superior been's and are seperating them selves from others.

They do not have strong Leadership..flip flops.

People are confuse..where to put their support.

“ I Am She SaHum”

Since: Apr 07

World

#9 Feb 28, 2009
Ashish wrote:
<quoted text>
I have afghani friends. 3/4 of Afghanistan is under Taliban's control. Americans are loosing ever day to a rag tag army. And I hope you know that Taliban and Wahabism is also a creation of America.
This is how I look at it. America did support the Taliban and many other groups and War Lords in Afghanistan because of war with the USSR. The CIA even had contact and helped Osama bin Laden at this time.

I don't believe that the USA created Wahabism. But we have made it strong by our support to many states repressive in the middle east. Today every time I fill up my gas tank I am sending money to people who support terrorism. We must end the use of the internal combustion engine. Oil profits are like elicit drug sales. They dirty every ones hands, we are all addicted to oil

But what do I know.
A K Dash

India

#11 Aug 21, 2011
1. Hindus have been a self-sufficient race for 5thousand yrs.
2. Hinduism lays importance on Liberation not on Bondage.
3. Hindus are too much learned people.
4. Hindus believed in too many gods.
5. Hindus are a non-political people.
6. Hindus preferred an unarmed peace.
7. Hindus are a much divided people.
8. Hindu women are married on arrangement.
9. Hindus care more for their after lives than to their present one.
10. Hindus thought much which killed their ability to perform.
11. Hindus were never patriotic in western sense.
12. Hindus indulged in civil battles.
13. Climate of India enervates Hindus.
14. Hindu women are epitomes of infatuation not affection.
15. Hinduism neglects training of both body and mind.
16. Hindu women have been sex-shy.
Dudeshwar

Londonderry, NH

#12 Nov 17, 2011
Great points dude - completely agree with you!
Ashish wrote:
I think Hindu cowardice is rooted in many things:
a) I believe Desis are a cowardly race in general. Yes even Pakis and Banglas are cowards (but less than Hindus for sure and look the point b for reason).
b) Hindus are extremely divided. They will divide themselves along caste (sub caste within caste), culture, state, sect, language, dialect etc etc and pretty much anything else you can think of. This kind of disunity promotes insecurity, jealousy, hatred, fear, mistrust among ourselves. A disunited people will always doubt themselves. This is the major reason why Ghaznavi, Ghori, Abdali took control of such a huge country with a few thousand soldiers. And this is also the reason why there is a good chance that Indian Union will break up despite all the economic growth. The base of our society is "khokla". I remember a Pakistani defence analyst saying this on television and I actually agree with this. When I came here as a student, most of the other Indian students were Telgu (from India) or ABCD (American Born Confused Desi) and they behaved in a way much worse than local Americans and I was quite appalled by this. I have also heard people saying that Indian professors and Indian employers are the harshest on other Indians. This is the most pathetic aspect of ours that we hate our own kind the most.(BTW nothing against telgus because I've seen that pretty much all Indians are the same i.e. chatting in their own language, ignoring others, showing attitude etc).
c) Religion often acts as a morale booster. At least this is true in case of Muslims. Muslims were very few in the beginning of Islam but they faced opponents three-four times their size and defeated them convincingly. They attacked and eventually conquered Constantinople because it was mentioned in one of their hadeeth that a Muslim army will occupy Constantinople and this army will go to jannaat (heaven). Hadeeth also has a prophecy about "Ghazwa-e-Hind" (Conquest of India) and Muslims of subcontinent are now claiming that the time for this war is near and I get a feeling that this will eventually happen (India becoming Islamic) if Hindus continue going the same way. Muslims really hold their beliefs close to the heart and they are full of confidence because of this. In Iraq, American army is getting slaughtered slowly and in Afghanistan, 3/4 of the land has come under Taliban control. Karzai can't even get out of his house. I'm not a Muslim sympathizer but just ask yourself how this is happening. Religion is a morale booster for them. And Hinduism has been marketed as a "anything goes" "go with the flow" kind of religion everywhere. The western "gurus" are playing a part in this. This is really dangerous because this is causing people to create their own interpretations of Hinduism based on secular beliefs. This is why Hinduism today is nothing more than idolatory, senseless rituals, polytheism, caste system, cow worship. I've seen Hindus claiming that smoking, drinking, drugs, homosexuality, robbing, cheating etc etc is all cool in Hinduism because Hinduism has "no rules". It is all being done to show that Hinduism is more compatible with west and it is a very liberal religion. Do you honestly think such a liberal, "anything goes", "go with the flow" religion with no rules can inspire its followers to fight ? No wonder people fall for this crap rather than reading the message of Gita where krsna asks arjuna to fight. Promotion of Hinduism as secular is what is causing Hindus to go to sufi mazars, churches, gurudwaras and thus weakening their own belief. Do Sikhs, Christians and Muslims even step into a temple ?(Granted some misguided Sikhs do but majority don't) Hindus need to quit preaching "all paths lead to one god" crap because it has been taken in a wrong way.
Great points dude - completely agree with you!
Dudeshwar

Londonderry, NH

#13 Nov 17, 2011
Actually - you make more sense that Ashish. I agree with you more.
Want to be Hindu wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right about Afghanistan it remains a problem. Mostly because we picked an incompetent leader for 8 years. We are not getting slaughtered in Iraq we have only lost 4000 troops since 2003. One life lost is to many but our causality rate is militarily insignificant. Each month or casualty rate drops. Why do we stay in Iraq so they will not kill each other. 600,000 Iraq have all ready died. Most of them by the hands of Iraqis. Don't get me wrong I never like this war. Itís a big waste of blood and treasure.
Afghanistan is different story. The War was won and we made the choice to go to Iraq. If we would have treated Afghanistan like post W.W.II Japan and Germany it would now be a different story.
I believe there still is hope. General Petraeus has shown himself to be an artist at counterinsurgency. I hope this has a good ending for everyone concerned. Also your stat of 3/4 of Afghanistan has come under Taliban control. Is way to high. Its about 1/2. We have done nothing to stop it. This still can be turned around.
harry

UK

#14 Oct 17, 2012
why do hindus drink rat milk and cow urine, and why are there so many hindu porn stars?
Miss Shubha

Pune, India

#15 Oct 17, 2012
harry wrote:
why do hindus drink rat milk and cow urine, and why are there so many hindu porn stars?
There are Hindu girl pornstars and not male.because we love sex very much.
LOKESHlthakur786 gmailcom

Bhopal, India

#16 Oct 17, 2012
Miss Shubha wrote:
<quoted text>
There are Hindu girl pornstars and not male.because we love sex very much.
any women want if chudai mai chodana chahta hu kya aap mujhse sex karna chahogemera id hai lthakur786 ye @gmail.com ka id hai aapka personal no. aur aap kaha se ho mai indore mp se humai aapko apna personal no. bhi dunga SIDHI BAAT NO BAKWAS

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