Zakir Naik Islamic Channel India insults and ridicules Hinduism.

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This channel is telecast from India (Bombay) and one wonders that India being a Hindu majority country is allowed to humiliate nad ridulce Hinduism.Are Hindus so weak not to fight back at Naik.He deserves to to treated with contempt and put in place.
This channel preaches hate and is telecast to many counties of the world.

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I have never seen that. There are so many other interesting and sane channels. The government would not keep a check on that so as not to annoy the Indian muslims.

But the effect of such indoctrination in a television channel, mosques, and madarsas is very bad. It will turn Indian muslims against India and hindus. If some of them engage in terrorist activity, they would create sorrow for hindus as well as themselves. You see, if a disease is treated in its nascent stage, you do not have to use drastic measures later.
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fakir "chutia" naik is one of the most ignored persons in india.
nobody cares to even debate with his idiot.
he's one of those new islamic converts...
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he owns a tv channel named peace tv which air anything except peace. hehe
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here, theres a whole thread on him and ppl all over the world talking about his idiotic theories.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/catholic/...
TAYYAB MANZOOR

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YOU PEOPLE JUST SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT ANY PROOF,YOUR OWN FAITH IS NOT LOGICAL,JUST SAY ANY THING RADICAL DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE,IF U R TRUTHFUL IN YOUR VOICES GO & DEBATE WITH HIM,& PROVE THAT U SAY THE RIGTH,YOU JUST SAY THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FEAR IN YOUR MIND ABOUT TRUTH. "WHEN TRUTH IS HEARD AGAINST FALSEHOOD,IT PERISHES BECAUSE FALSEHOOD IS BY ITS NATURE BOUND TO PERISH.

“Fear is your Only God!!!”

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a few weeks back, zakir naik appeared on the RKB show that airs on sahara mumbai where he tried to claim he wasn't non-muslim hater and crap.

anyways, RKB indirectly asked nail about the violent verses of the quran or if they were infact present in the quran.
this was actually a reference to the Surah 47, Verse 4 from quran which happens to be the most widely quoted verse from the quran by non-muslims.

this is what it meant for years and years before anyone questioned islam.

"Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers,
smite at their necks and when ye have caused a bloodbath among them,
bind a bond firmly on them."

unbelievers means non-mulsim in islam.

this is what it was made to be meant after the whole islam controversy.

"If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had GOD willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of GOD, He will never put their sacrifice to waste."

whats changed here is the addition of the term "war" and the extension of the meaning with lines that weren't there before.

the new meaning is flawed as well.
1) the term disbelievers is still attributed to non-muslims.
2) beheading is still there and can be followed by all muslims.
3) thus the "peaceful nature of it is in question

but of course there are dozens of versus that are in question and they always undergo some changes but mostly stays true to its previous nature.

zakir openly said that your allowed to kill your enemies on the battle ground.
he said that with pride and as if it wasn't anything to be ashamed of.

“Maths Guru Srinivasa Ramanujan”

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Dear Tayyab Manzoor, Zakir Nayak would not come to this forum. Since you are here, I invite you to debate hinduism and islam. You must have been enlightened by viewing his tv channel, the Pakistani TV chennels, the discussions in your mosque or madarsa, and friends and relatives.

I am an atheist and a hindu. Kindly tell me why I should believe in the existence of any God?

“Maths Guru Srinivasa Ramanujan”

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Rageaddict wrote:
a few weeks back..
Be sure of what you write, consult all material available.:)

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Mar 31, 2008
 
Divine Alien wrote:
Be sure of what you write, consult all material available.:)
how the hell is this important???
all i know that it was aired in year 2007 end.
a few weeks should be fine man, don't trip.

“Maths Guru Srinivasa Ramanujan”

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Mar 31, 2008
 
First check how your adversaries answer questions. Then phrase your question.

“Fear is your Only God!!!”

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Mar 31, 2008
 
im confused aupmanyav...
apart from a typo, i don't see jack sh1t.

are you trying to be mysterious??

“Maths Guru Srinivasa Ramanujan”

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Don't take it too seriously. I know muslims will reply to the question that you have placed. But where is Tayyab Manzoor? Let him return with his ammo.

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he won't
it's a case of hit-n-run.
tayyab manzoor

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u say that u r an atheist & a hindu(vedantis)at the same time this is a lie,because as far as i know hindu also belive in one God,according to your holy books Yajurveda
The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:

"na tasya pratima asti
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5

"shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6

"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7

Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.

The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:
"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."
[Yajurveda 40:16]8

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5[Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377]

6[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]

7[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]

8[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith page 541]



Atharvaveda
The Atharvaveda praises God in Book 20, hymn 58 and verse 3:

"Dev maha osi"
"God is verily great"
[Atharvaveda 20:58:3]9


Rigveda

The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46:
"Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names."
[Rigveda 1:164:46]

The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.

Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.

Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:

"Na tasya Pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]

Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or 'Sustainer' or Vishnu. But the popular image of

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9[Atharveda Samhita vol 2 William Dwight Whitney page 910]



Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.

"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him"

The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being:

"Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata"
"O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone."
[Rigveda 8:1:1]10

"Devasya samituk parishtutih"
"Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator."
[Rigveda 5:1:81]11


Brahma Sutra of Hinduism:

The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is:

"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit
how can u deny by being a hindu the existance of God.
tayyab manzoor

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Aupmanyav wrote:
Don't take it too seriously. I know muslims will reply to the question that you have placed. But where is Tayyab Manzoor? Let him return with his ammo.
i m just too much busy in my every day work so thats why i cannot load my ammos early .
tayyab manzoor

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gentle man i belive u r quite bore without me,becoz i saw some abuses from my dear brother in humanity, some ammo types things but i m sorry for that becoz i m quite busy these days in completing a project.......so thats why i dont come early.hope so i check it when i have time.yours sincerly

TAYYAB MANZOOR
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tayyab, we dont care about zakir, islam, etc.,

GTFO here.

you religion is shit. Your prophet is a pedophile, a murderer, who has took many lives of humble people. You all will rot in hell for sure. You eat non veg everyday, by killing animals, you dont even have a religion that you can respect yourself.

Yes god is ONE, he can take ANY form. Matter, Animal, human being, or IDOLS.

We Indians are Superior to muslims.

So now GTFO of our forum.
Arshad Pune India

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You guys who all are abusing islaam just because you dont want to accept truth. Just surf and check for your knowledge that how people of different communities accorss the world are accepting Islaam after knowing the truth. Have you heard even once somebody converted to Hindu?.As Tayyab explained it from your religious books but still you are not able to accept the truth.Its very easy to abuse anybody's religion just by typing bad words here, but hard to accept or really try to search the truth which you people will not anyways do.The person who said he is Indian and superior to muslims, i regret on his knowledge that Indains are Muslim too.
Lets do not downcast each other religions, this way we are just showing our stupidity.
One person has used the worst words for ISLAAM, but mind i can add more worst expressions about your religion, but my religion do not allow me to do so. you can have your faith, i will have mine. Lets not make this discussion to be seen and laugh by other religious people.
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Arshad Pune India wrote:
You guys who all are abusing islaam just because you dont want to accept truth. Just surf and check for your knowledge that how people of different communities accorss the world are accepting Islaam after knowing the truth. Have you heard even once somebody converted to Hindu?.As Tayyab explained it from your religious books but still you are not able to accept the truth.Its very easy to abuse anybody's religion just by typing bad words here, but hard to accept or really try to search the truth which you people will not anyways do.The person who said he is Indian and superior to muslims, i regret on his knowledge that Indains are Muslim too.
Lets do not downcast each other religions, this way we are just showing our stupidity.
One person has used the worst words for ISLAAM, but mind i can add more worst expressions about your religion, but my religion do not allow me to do so. you can have your faith, i will have mine. Lets not make this discussion to be seen and laugh by other religious people.
I know quite a few westerners who converted to Hinduism. I know a couple who have converted to Sikhism.
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kannada wrote:
tayyab, we dont care about zakir, islam, etc.,
GTFO here.
you religion is shit. Your prophet is a pedophile, a murderer, who has took many lives of humble people. You all will rot in hell for sure. You eat non veg everyday, by killing animals, you dont even have a religion that you can respect yourself.
Yes god is ONE, he can take ANY form. Matter, Animal, human being, or IDOLS.
We Indians are Superior to muslims.
So now GTFO of our forum.
you say two things
1.God takes forms
2.non vegetable food
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"na tasya pratima asti
"There is no image of Him."
[Yajurveda 32:3]5
"shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodyless and pure."
[Yajurveda 40:8]6
"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"
"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."
[Yajurveda 40:9]7
Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.
your own books say directly man that God cannot take forms & you cannot worship idols,go & study that thing again.
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you say that non vegetable food is prohibited in hinduism your knowledge about your own religion is quite poor because your books says a totally,one should be correct your books or you.i m afraid your books.......because
Some Hindus think that it is against their religion to have non-vegetarian food But the fact is that the Hindu scriptures permit a person to have meat The scripture mentions sages and saints having meat. Hindu scriptures clearly mention that there is nothing wrong in having meat.
It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus! In chapter 5 verse 30 “The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad! even if he does it day after day; for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater”
Again next verse of Manu Smruti that is; chapter 5 verse 31 says “Eating meat is right for the sacrifice, this is traditionally known as a rule of the gods”
Further in Manu Smruti chapter 5 verse 39 and 40 says
“God himself created sacrificial animals for sacrifice… therefore killing in a sacrifice is not killing.”
Manu Smruti even narrates the supremacy of killing animals in sacrifice it is mentioned in chapter 5 verse 42
“A twice born (a Brahmin) who knows the true meaning of Vedas and injures sacrificial animals for CORRECT PURPOSES cause both himself and the animal to go to the highest level of existence".
Among the Hindu scriptures Vedas are considered as most ancient and most sacred. We find mentioning of non-vegetarian food in Vedas too it is mentioned in Rig-Veda book 10 Hymn 27 verse 2
“Then will I, when I lead my friends to battle against the radiant persons of godless, prepare for thee at home a vigorous bullock, and pour for thee the fifteen fold strong juices"
now tell me who is wrong,i accept what u say or what your books say.....
it is a beleif in geneism that u can't take non vegetable food which a common hindu took & think that this is true & take asside his own books.
if u have to follow the vedas & the hindu scripture u have to follow these things
1.God is one.
2.Prophet mohammad is prophet.....
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In Bhavishya Purana in the Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5-8.
"A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, "I make obeisance to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents."
in Bhavishya Purana in the Pratisarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 10 to 27 Maharishi Vyas has prophesised:
"The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance, the well-known Muhammad (pbuh), is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja, You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of Ishwar Parmatma, I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat eaters. My followers will be men circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution announcing the Aadhaan (the Muslim call for prayer) and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. On account of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmaans. I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nations."
Bhavishya Purana, Parv - III Khand 1 Adhay 3 Shloka 21-23:
"Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc. India is inhabited by Rakshas, Shabor, Bhil and other foolish people. In the land of Malechhas, the followers of the Malechha dharma (Islam) are wise and brave people. All good qualities are found in Musalmaans and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord".
The main points mentioned in the Kuntap Suktas i.e. in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 127 verses 1-13 are:
Mantra 1
He is Narashansah or the praised one (Muhammad). He is Kaurama: the prince of peace or the emigrant, who is safe, even amongst a host of 60,090 enemies.
Mantra 2
He is a camel-riding Rishi, whose chariot touches the heaven.
Mantra 3
He is Mamah Rishi who is given a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets (necklaces), three hundred good steeds and ten thousand cows.
Mantra 4
Vachyesv rebh.‘Oh! ye who glorifies’.
The Sanskrit word Narashansah means ‘the praised one’, which is the literal translation of the Arabic word Muhammad (pbuh)
Atharvaveda Book XX Hymn 21 verse 6, "Lord of the truthful! These liberators drink these feats of bravery and the inspiring songs gladdened thee in the field of battle. When thou renders vanquished without fight the ten thousand opponents of the praying one, the adoring one."
Rigveda Book I, Hymn 53 verse 9:
The Sanskrit word used is Sushrama, which means praiseworthy or well praised which in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh).
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Samveda Book II Hymn 6 verse 8:
"Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law. I received light from him just as from the sun."
The Qur’an says in Surah Saba chapter 34 verse 28
"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."

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