Why is faith falling in the US?

Why is faith falling in the US?

There are 277 comments on the Newsday story from Aug 21, 2012, titled Why is faith falling in the US?. In it, Newsday reports that:

A new poll suggests that atheism is on the rise in the US, while those who consider themselves religious has dropped ...

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“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#203 Sep 9, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I don't believe any human is infallible, and Spong's own words are proof of his own heresies.
Call him and arrange a meeting. Show him theologically where' he's wrong.

LMAO..........
Swamp Fox

Savannah, GA

#204 Sep 9, 2012
This is the VERY BEST Explanation of falling Church attendance, and the lack of new members joining the Churches, that I have ever seen.

http://www.examiner.com/article/republican-co...

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#205 Sep 10, 2012
MiddleWay wrote:
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Call him and arrange a meeting. Show him theologically where' he's wrong ...
Is Spong incapable of picking up and opening a Bible by himself?

Since: Mar 09

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#206 Sep 10, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Is Spong incapable of picking up and opening a Bible by himself?
That anthology is merely "our first tradition", NOT the final word on anything.

Since: Aug 09

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#207 Sep 10, 2012
snyper wrote:
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That anthology is merely "our first tradition", NOT the final word on anything.
So true.

It is intended to be used for a personal "liberation" of Spirit, not a behavioral prison foisted upon others.

It is also a tapestry of recorded experience and myth as understood at the time. It is essential to any proper spiritual development that truth in every form be accepted as it becomes understood, even into the present moment. Anything less is a denial of what is real.

The Lord said, "I am the truth,..." So, let the truth be openly and unabashedly sought.

Rev. Ken

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#208 Sep 10, 2012
RevKen wrote:
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So true.
It is intended to be used for a personal "liberation" of Spirit, not a behavioral prison foisted upon others.
It is also a tapestry of recorded experience and myth as understood at the time. It is essential to any proper spiritual development that truth in every form be accepted as it becomes understood, even into the present moment. Anything less is a denial of what is real.
The Lord said, "I am the truth,..." So, let the truth be openly and unabashedly sought.
Rev. Ken
Amen brothers!!

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#209 Sep 10, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Is Spong incapable of picking up and opening a Bible by himself?
No, but you are ...

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#210 Sep 10, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I don't believe any human is infallible, and Spong's own words are proof of his own heresies.
But as a good Church of Rome boy you are required to believe the dogma on Papal Infallibility!

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#211 Sep 10, 2012
snyper wrote:
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That anthology is merely "our first tradition", NOT the final word on anything.
Jude 1:3: "... earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."

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#212 Sep 10, 2012
Swamp Fox wrote:
This is the VERY BEST Explanation of falling Church attendance, and the lack of new members joining the Churches, that I have ever seen.
http://www.examiner.com/article/republican-co...
This doesn't even touch the issue. What this above is, frankly, is a liberal's political excuse.

Want proof? Try the Democrat Party's platform and the response of delegates present on the floor who clearly tried to prevent the speaker from making the modifications.

People are fed up with the constant assault on our Constitution and the refusal to permit children to acknowledge the founding priciples of our nation - which openly place God in the highest regard.

People are also fed up with our religious leaders failing to teach the Teachings of Christ Jesus, while attempting to hang onto their institutionalized hypocrisies and bigotry. The Roman Church is right in the thick of it. The evangelicals who try to run down homosexuality, instead of teaching the truth of Christ Jesus, are right behind them.

Yes, extreme immorality can be found in the worldwide explosion of theft, slavery, pornography and promiscuity. But, it can also be found in the Church pulpit being roundly castigated while the minister or priest indulges in asset theft, sexual predation and adultery, behind closed doors. Then, we hear them casting irreparable guilt and shame where none should exist upon the innocent and defenseless.

The Episcopal Church is on the right track. It isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. The Roman Church is a well-intentioned institution, responsible for many important, honest and valuable efforts. But, it must come to grips with its problems, just like the rest of us.

More later.

Rev. Ken

Since: Mar 09

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#213 Sep 10, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Jude 1:3: "... earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."
Along with 2nd Peter, the gentile work "Jude" is not an authentic bit of scribble.

How can a truly canonical writer make canonical pronouncements using non-canonical works as authority for his assertions?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#214 Sep 11, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Along with 2nd Peter, the gentile work "Jude" is not an authentic bit of scribble ...
... according to an anonymous gnostic poster who simply dismisses any legit scripture he does'nt happen to agree with.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#215 Sep 11, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... according to an anonymous gnostic poster who simply dismisses any legit scripture he does'nt happen to agree with.
Nope, according to those who research the documents.

Romans have been adding in bs since time began.....

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#216 Sep 11, 2012
MiddleWay wrote:
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Nope, according to ...
... yet another anonymous, gnostic poster who also dismisses scripture he disagrees with.

Since: Jun 07

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#218 Sep 11, 2012
Pat Robertson is at it again...see my post above!
George

Jacksonville, FL

#219 Sep 11, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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But as a good Church of Rome boy you are required to believe the dogma on Papal Infallibility!
Like we are supposed to believe GC is infallible when it pronounces same sex relationships as holy? Or when it advocates aborton on demand? Or when it promotes ordination of sexually active homosexuals?

Since: Mar 09

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#220 Sep 11, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... according to an anonymous gnostic poster who simply dismisses any legit scripture he does'nt happen to agree with.
Again, my sect is not "gnostic" by any criteria whatsoever.

Yours, however, is heretical in a great many particulars.

Fortunately, Yeshua is recorded as providing the criteria by which he will separate the sheep from the goats, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with ritual, knowledge, doctrine or dogma.

" ... they will think that what they eat and drink will save them ... "

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#221 Sep 11, 2012
George wrote:
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Like we are supposed to believe GC is infallible when it pronounces same sex relationships as holy? Or when it advocates aborton on demand?...
In TEC today, being politically correct trumps being infallible; PC excuses the inexcusable.

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#222 Sep 12, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Again, my sect is not "gnostic" by any criteria whatsoever.
Yours, however, is heretical in a great many particulars.
Fortunately, Yeshua is recorded as providing the criteria by which he will separate the sheep from the goats, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with ritual, knowledge, doctrine or dogma.
" ... they will think that what they eat and drink will save them ... "
You would think that someone would follow up on your point made above and offer a comment.

I think I'll get the book out and find the passage and refresh my memory of what it means to live in discipleship.

Thanks.

Rev. Ken

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#223 Sep 12, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... yet another anonymous, gnostic poster who also dismisses scripture he disagrees with.
No, just the add ins coming from Rome, the things not Jewish, as Jewish and the 12 were.

It's pretty easy actually for those educated in this area, not like oh, hmmm, journalism.

I'd have loved to see the frantic red birds skittering about when the Nag Hamadi Library and Dead Sea Scrolls were found.

LOL!

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