Seneca Falls, Selma, Stonewall

Seneca Falls, Selma, Stonewall

There are 13 comments on the ruminations.generousorthodoxy.org story from Jan 31, 2013, titled Seneca Falls, Selma, Stonewall. In it, ruminations.generousorthodoxy.org reports that:

Like a great many other people, I was both startled and moved when President Obama added Stonewall to his S-list. It was definitely a watershed moment. In the context of his ringing calls for equality and a new focus on climate change, it commanded the attention of the nation and world ...

It certainly seems as though the movement for same-sex unions, and gay rights in general, is unstoppable. It's hard to ignore the summons to try to grab onto the train that's already left the station ...

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Jan 31, 2013
from generousorthodoxy:

"... There are a great many powerful reasons--biblical, biological, anatomical, societal, cultural, historical--to think of male-female marital relationships as normative. Efforts to dismiss the idea of the union of male and female as particularly embedded by God in the order of creation have not been persuasive, to my mind. The Protestant churches simply have not had a sustained theological debate about this issue.

"And in the meantime, sexual ethics in general have been permitted to deteriorate alarmingly without a peep from most churches ..."

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#2 Feb 1, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
from generousorthodoxy:
"... There are a great many powerful reasons--biblical, biological, anatomical, societal, cultural, historical--to think of male-female marital relationships as normative. Efforts to dismiss the idea of the union of male and female as particularly embedded by God in the order of creation have not been persuasive, to my mind. The Protestant churches simply have not had a sustained theological debate about this issue.
"And in the meantime, sexual ethics in general have been permitted to deteriorate alarmingly without a peep from most churches ..."
Let's hear about sexual ethics from the romans, especiall in Boston, LA, or, I don't know, BRIDGEPORT?

Ahearn arrested 1/93 and charged with molesting 14 yr old youth he picked up while on a skiing vacation. Found guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and sentenced to 2 yrs probation. Youth also filed a civil suit in 1995. Personnel file produced to Court in 1999. Ahearn died 12/97.

Claims against Albeke were settled by Diocese as part of massive settlement 10/03. Diocese paid $21M to 40 people who claim that they were abused by 16 priests, including Albeke. Albeke is only priest on the list whose name had not previouslybeen made public. He was placed on leave 8/02 after a man reported he had been abused by the priest in 1978 at St. Jude Church in Monroe. Name is also spelled Albecke.

Accused of sexually assaulting a former altar boy in 1985 at St. Anthony of Padua in Bridgeport, CT. Case was settled with others by the Bridgeport diocese in 10/03. Name occasionally spelled Bonaszek.

At least 4 men allege in 2002 that Bietighofer abused them in late 1970s and early 1980s at Blessed Sacrament Parish. Sent to St. Luke's for treatment 5/02 but hung himself in room. Served in Peru in 1974 and 1986. A diocesan official knew of a complaint against Bietighofer in 1996. Claims against Bietighofer settled by Diocese as part of massive settlement in 10/03 where. Diocese paid $21M to 40 people who claim that they were abused by 16 priests. Another accusation rec'd 12/09
1993 lawsuit claimed Brett abused a teenage altar boy from 1961-1963. Diocese received complaint in 1964 re abuse of a 19 yr old that Brett admitted to. He also attempted to molest a high school student. Insurance company paid $250K settlement in 1994 to two victims Brett molested after he transferred to Sacramento, CA. Also abused in Baltimore, MD. He fled to Caribbean in 1993; located in 2002 but fled again. Named in 2008 civil suit. Laicized. Died 12/10.

Accused in 1995 of molesting two men in separate incidents when they were children. Placed on leave. Civil litigation filed. Four claims against Carr settled 3/01 as part of settlement of claims by 26 victims against Bridgeport Diocese and six priests. Per 2002 article, Carr spent more than 10 years with Carmelites Order; took perpetual vows in 1974 but not allowed to become priest because of emotional immaturity. Bridgeport diocese then allowed him to study and be ordained.

Arrested/charged 6/01 w/ explicit sexual conversations on Internet w/ 14 yr old boy (police). Wanted to meet for sex. Spiritual adviser at Trinity H.S. Removed; admitted charges in court 9/01. Sentenced 11/01 to 1 weekend in jail and 5 years probation. Suit filed 10/01 alleged abuse in 1991. Suit filed 4/02 (settled 2005). Suit filed 1/09. 3rd suit filed 3/10. Diocese said 3/10 plaintiff was not abused. 1/09 suit decided for Plaintiff by Judge when diocese failed to produce docs.

Diocese investigated claims against him in 1994. Suit filed in 1994 claimed Coleman supplied youth with gifts and money and abused him for 5 years. Allowed to function for several months before "retiring." Suit resolved for undisclosed sum in 1995. Another suit filed 1996. Claims also settled in 2001 & 2003. New suit filed 9/27/10 re abuse of a 10 yr old boy in 1972.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#3 Feb 1, 2013
Native of Haiti. Worked in Bridgeport Diocese as extern priest as late as 2008. He was working at St. Mary's Parish when Diocese received complaint involving allegations of potential misconduct with a minor. Diocese reported to Dept. of Children & Families which found allegations not substantiated. He left Diocese. In 2010-2011, he was in Calgary Alberta Canada. He was arrested 12/11 on charges of sexual activity with at least one child.

Per 4/02 article, DeShan (at age 30) became involved in sexual relationship with 14 or 15 year old girl in 1988. Girl became pregnant in 1989. DeShan took leave of absence after telling Bishop Egan. Egan allowed him to leave priesthood and begin a new life as elementary school teacher with no record of sexual misconduct. Was teaching in New Jersey in 2002 when allegation revealed. Temporarily placed on leave. Claim settled 10/03. DeShan was laicized.

Resigned 4/02 after being sentenced to 150 days in state jail for 3rd DWI conviction. He also admitted to a sexual relationship with a young man who might have been a minor. Church said allegations were credible. Claims against Donovan settled by Diocese as part of massive settlement in 10/03 where Diocese paid $21M to 40 people alleging abuse by priests.

Placed on leave after suit filed 9/96 alleged that Federici sexually abused 12 yr old boy in confessional and rectory in 1981. 3 more lawsuits filed (two in 1996 and 1 in 1999) alleging abuse of 16 yr old, 13 yr old and another teenager. 1 settled 1999 and others in 2001. Add'l claim(s) settled 2003. Laicization announced 5/03. New suit filed in 2010 by convicted rapist who alleged abuse in 1976-1977.

Per 7.26.06 article, woman had just filed suit alleging abuse by Fletcher at St. Margaret Mary Alacoque Parish in Shelton in early 1960s, beginning when she was a 7 yr old girl. He died in April, 1988. Diocese says that there have been no other allegations against him.

Per documents released in 2009, Diocese paid two men $20K each in 2004 to settle claims of abuse in late 1970s-early 1980s. Men say they were abused by Genuario and another priest, Frank Wissel. Money was for "therapy" for 3 yrs. and settlements referred to "disputed claims." Accusers recently learned that the priests were still active. Genuario served as Vicar General of Diocese for 9 yrs. Both priests have denied allegations. Diocese paid another settlement re Genuario 1/06.

Too many more, just in your diocese....

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#4 Feb 1, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
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Let's hear about sexual ethics from the romans ...
... on the Episcopal church forum?

"The 70-year-old Bremen resident and Episcopal priest who allegedly smuggled Suboxone to inmates at Two Bridges Regional Jail appeared in Lincoln County Superior Court today ..."

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#5 Feb 1, 2013
I was so proud of the President for his speech! I LOVE THAT MAN!

Since: Jun 07

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#6 Feb 1, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... on the Episcopal church forum?
"The 70-year-old Bremen resident and Episcopal priest who allegedly smuggled Suboxone to inmates at Two Bridges Regional Jail appeared in Lincoln County Superior Court today ..."
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2 013/02/01/update-la-cardinal-r oger-mahony-is-stripped-of-dut ies-following-abuse-revelation s/

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#8 Feb 1, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
I was so proud of the President for his speech! I LOVE THAT MAN!
Since when have you loved men?
But here's something you both can love:

"And in the meantime, sexual ethics in general have been permitted to deteriorate alarmingly without a peep from most churches ..."

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9 Feb 1, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Since when have you loved men?
But here's something you both can love:
"And in the meantime, sexual ethics in general have been permitted to deteriorate alarmingly without a peep from most churches ..."
I love LOTS of men. I just don't want to have sex with them.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#10 Feb 2, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
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I love LOTS of men. I just don't want to have sex with them.
Once again, the "lady" protests too much, methinks.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#11 Feb 2, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Once again, the "lady" protests too much, methinks.
Are you in a relationship joline?

Want to tell us all about it?

Do you even have real life friends?

Uh huh, we ALL know how you project, sorry, just can't play the Shakespeare game, it's called projection and you are the epitome....

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#12 Feb 2, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... on the Episcopal church forum?
"The 70-year-old Bremen resident and Episcopal priest who allegedly smuggled Suboxone to inmates at Two Bridges Regional Jail appeared in Lincoln County Superior Court today ..."
We're non-sectarian, remember?

LMAO hypocrite......

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#13 Feb 2, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
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We're non-sectarian, remember?...
Who is "we"?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#14 Feb 3, 2013
from generousorthodoxy:

"Those of us who still raise questions about gay marriage increasingly DO NOT want to be included in the company of those who oppose it simply because 'the Bible tells me so.' It's not as simple as that."

IMO, it's as simple as this:

"When Jesus insisted on monogamous marriage, he predicated it on a passage in Genesis which says that 'from the beginning God made them male and female ... In other words, the fact that God had designed two, and only two, sexes for complementary sexual pairing was Jesus' basis for monogamy,'" said the Rev. Robert Gagnon, New Testament professor at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary.

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