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Image of Holmes Dixon Crossed the Altar, Busted Barriers

There are 36 comments on the PBS story from Feb 26, 2013, titled Image of Holmes Dixon Crossed the Altar, Busted Barriers. In it, PBS reports that:

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#1 Feb 26, 2013
Awesome woman and Bishop.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#2 Feb 26, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
Awesome woman and Bishop.
What a load! Ask the people of Christ Church in Accoceek Maryland about jack-boot Jane. She belongs in the TEO Hall of Shame of apostate bishops.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#3 Feb 26, 2013
George wrote:
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What a load! Ask the people of Christ Church in Accoceek Maryland about jack-boot Jane. She belongs in the TEO Hall of Shame of apostate bishops.
"... Back in the mid 90’s I was at a vestry retreat at Kanuga at the same time the HoB was meeting there. I was talking to a retired bishop friend of mine in the dining room after breakfast was over and Jane Holmes Dixon strolled in and ORDERED me to get her a cup of coffee. When I told her I didn’t work there she said that was fine, but get her a cup of coffee antway. I told her I was late for a meeting and left; but as I went out the door I said 'By the way—I voted against your consecration on Standing Committee' and walked out the door."

[8] Posted by David Keller on 9-16-2011 at 12:21 PM ·[top]

http://www.standfirminfaith.com/...

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#4 Feb 26, 2013
You have never set foot on KANUGA.
George

Jacksonville, FL

#5 Feb 27, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
You have never set foot on KANUGA.
Can't you read? Joe didn't say He was at Kanuga. He copied and posted something that someone else said about the jack-boot bishop when that person was at Kanuga. The quotatation marks and the attirbution to StandFirm is more than just a hint.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#6 Feb 27, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
You have never set foot on KANUGA.
My name isn't David Keller, and you must be blind not to see the quotes around the text.

Maybe that's why you post in All Caps; consider getting reading glasses.

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#7 Feb 27, 2013
Both of you jackasses CAN'T READ! I said that you have never set foot on KANUGA...well, have you?

But you take some third party's word on this....you really need to check YOUR sources...and yet you take it all as true. You insult a dead woman, a Bishop and without ANY way for her to defend your charges, you pound her.

Do you see now why you are despised? The way you treat Gays and Women is ABHORRENT!
George

Jacksonville, FL

#8 Feb 27, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
Do you see now why you are despised? The way you treat Gays and Women is ABHORRENT!
Say it isn't so - Oh my! Despised! Abhorrent! Did you take a leave of absence from your baptismal covenant? How truly blessed are those hated by tehe wicked!!! You have made my day. How does that make you feel?

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#9 Feb 27, 2013
George wrote:
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Say it isn't so - Oh my! Despised! Abhorrent! Did you take a leave of absence from your baptismal covenant? How truly blessed are those hated by tehe wicked!!! You have made my day. How does that make you feel?
No...I FIGHT EVIL when I find it! Just found some more in your little post. See you at Bible Study...better hurry or you'll be late. Ingram Lounge at 11 a.m.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#10 Feb 27, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
You have never set foot on KANUGA.
Joe doesn't go anywhere, he selectively chooses what to copy and paste and in his own little mind, he thinks he's there.....

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#11 Feb 27, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
I said that you have never set foot on KANUGA...
... and that has exactly what to do with what happened there?
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
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No...I FIGHT EVIL when I find it!...
Are there any unbroken mirrors left in your home?
George

Jacksonville, FL

#12 Feb 27, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
<quoted text>No...I FIGHT EVIL when I find it! Just found some more in your little post. See you at Bible Study...better hurry or you'll be late. Ingram Lounge at 11 a.m.
Evil? I thought things like "evil" and "sin" had been banished from the Episcopagan lexicon as worn and outdated relics of a superstitious past. Whatever happened to Christianity for the New Millenium?

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#13 Feb 27, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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"... Back in the mid 90’s I was at a vestry retreat at Kanuga at the same time the HoB was meeting there. I was talking to a retired bishop friend of mine in the dining room after breakfast was over and Jane Holmes Dixon strolled in and ORDERED me to get her a cup of coffee. When I told her I didn’t work there she said that was fine, but get her a cup of coffee antway. I told her I was late for a meeting and left; but as I went out the door I said 'By the way—I voted against your consecration on Standing Committee' and walked out the door."
[8] Posted by David Keller on 9-16-2011 at 12:21 PM ·[top]
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/...
You know,...

I am not defending this Lady or saying anything, pro or con, though I certainly could.

John, the Baptist had a way of pissing just about everybody off, too. And yet, today, most of us regard his ministry as essential to the Gospel.

On contemplation of the above quote of experience, some ideas pop through.

A guy is sitting, conversing, probably somewhat submissively, with a retired bishop. The so-called "Jack-booted" female bishop arrives and seats herself.

This guy has some standing as a Vestryman and Churchgoer and he knows who she is and a few comments later, on his way out, turns and tells her that he openly disapproves of her ministry and tenancy in office. He lies to her to excuse himself, saying, "I'm late for another meeting," rather than sit and defend his position, even if impolitely.

Run the tape back a moment.

Who is the retired bishop? Is he also one who disapproves of Bishop Jane? Does he share the former Vestryman's misogynistic views?

I wasn't there. Could very well be that she was militant and peculiarly rich in condescension. More likely, though, she found herself in a life of vigilance, having to quickly size people up when the first impression is to be made.

If that was the case, when she walked into the room and found the two men seated, the Vestryman, recognizing her, immediately and openly reacted with personal animus, his own brand of disapproving condescension and dismissal, and an atmosphere of superiority and belittling toward her.

Undoubtedly, she had experienced this many times in the course of her work. She knew exactly what to do and how to do it.

Rev. Ken
George

Jacksonville, FL

#14 Feb 27, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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You know,...
I am not defending this Lady or saying anything, pro or con, though I certainly could.
John, the Baptist had a way of pissing just about everybody off, too. And yet, today, most of us regard his ministry as essential to the Gospel.
On contemplation of the above quote of experience, some ideas pop through.
A guy is sitting, conversing, probably somewhat submissively, with a retired bishop. The so-called "Jack-booted" female bishop arrives and seats herself.
This guy has some standing as a Vestryman and Churchgoer and he knows who she is and a few comments later, on his way out, turns and tells her that he openly disapproves of her ministry and tenancy in office. He lies to her to excuse himself, saying, "I'm late for another meeting," rather than sit and defend his position, even if impolitely.
Run the tape back a moment.
Who is the retired bishop? Is he also one who disapproves of Bishop Jane? Does he share the former Vestryman's misogynistic views?
I wasn't there. Could very well be that she was militant and peculiarly rich in condescension. More likely, though, she found herself in a life of vigilance, having to quickly size people up when the first impression is to be made.
If that was the case, when she walked into the room and found the two men seated, the Vestryman, recognizing her, immediately and openly reacted with personal animus, his own brand of disapproving condescension and dismissal, and an atmosphere of superiority and belittling toward her.
Undoubtedly, she had experienced this many times in the course of her work. She knew exactly what to do and how to do it.
Rev. Ken
You should have said some ideas "pooped" through as having invented the whole scenario out of whole cloth - attributing attitudes and sentiment to people about whom you absolutely ZERO. The fraudulent one shows his true colors again. I guess if you can invent a new Gospel, why not an encounter about which you know nothing.

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#15 Feb 27, 2013
George wrote:
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You should have said some ideas "pooped" through as having invented the whole scenario out of whole cloth - attributing attitudes and sentiment to people about whom you absolutely ZERO. The fraudulent one shows his true colors again. I guess if you can invent a new Gospel, why not an encounter about which you know nothing.
Well, George,.... LOL!!!....

Anyone can say what YOU just said about the people making negative comments and posting other people's negative comments and impressions about the departed Bishop.

They don't know about her either!

I'm not making any excuse for her, him or the retired bishop. But, something about that guy ticked her off. What do you think he did when he saw her coming over to sit down?

Do you think he let out a big welcoming smile and an open hand of gracious introduction? Think he stood up, out of respect for the lady and her office? Think he offered out of his own chauvinism to help her get seated?

Not according to his own account.

And, given his comments in departing, it is doubtful that he showed anything but disrespect to her. Most likely, he got exactly back what he initially gave.

Rev. Ken

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#16 Feb 27, 2013
George wrote:
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Evil? I thought things like "evil" and "sin" had been banished from the Episcopagan lexicon as worn and outdated relics of a superstitious past. Whatever happened to Christianity for the New Millenium?
If you ever showed up at the Cathedral, then you would know differently...but you don't. You could listen to the sermons online. Last weeks was Fr. Perry's very best ever.

http://www.jaxcathedral.org

Click on the Worship tab to hear them.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#17 Feb 27, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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You know,...
I am not defending this Lady or saying anything, pro or con, though I certainly could.
John, the Baptist had a way of pissing just about everybody off, too ...
You're comparing the Baptist -- who said he wasn't worthy to untie the messiah's sandals -- with a bishop who demands to be waited on?

Go right ahead and defend her then.

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#18 Feb 27, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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You're comparing the Baptist -- who said he wasn't worthy to untie the messiah's sandals -- with a bishop who demands to be waited on?
Go right ahead and defend her then.
I am a grateful servant of the priests of The Episcopal Church. It is an honor to get anyone a cup of coffee...homeless person or President of the United States. Perhaps you should try being a servant of mankind. I love being of service.

BTW....first Monday is feed the homeless at Sulzbacher. We prepare the meal beginning at 2 p.m. Will I see you there GEORGE!!!?

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#19 Feb 28, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
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I am a grateful servant of the priests of The Episcopal Church ...
I thought they took vows to be YOUR servants, or has TEC's priesthood now achieved cultic status?
George

Jacksonville, FL

#20 Feb 28, 2013
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
<quoted text>I am a grateful servant of the priests of The Episcopal Church. It is an honor to get anyone a cup of coffee...homeless person or President of the United States. Perhaps you should try being a servant of mankind. I love being of service.
It is an "honor" to be ordered by some arrogant, self-impressed pointy hat to GET her a cup of coffee? I hope he went and got it and then spit in it right in front of her face.

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