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The Rapture: What is it and when will it occur?

There are 749 comments on the raptureready.com story from Jan 25, 2008, titled The Rapture: What is it and when will it occur?. In it, raptureready.com reports that:

In John chapter 14, Jesus gave His disciples a promise that became the greatest hope of every believer in every age.

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“Religion stops a thinking mind”

Since: Nov 07

Salt Lake City, UT

#1 Jan 25, 2008
"The Rapture: What is it and when will it occur?"

Next Friday, Noonish. Bring a sack lunch.

zazenmind

Since: Sep 07

tampa

#2 Jan 25, 2008
THE RAPTURE IS BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR A LONG TIME IN THE MINDS OF THOSE BLINDED BY RELIGIOUS IMPERIALISM, THAT TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD DECLARING THAT THEY ARE IN POSSESION OF THE ONLY TRUE FAITH AND ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE, AND THEY CALL THEMSELVES PEACE MAKERS.
Hail Mary

Tuscaloosa, AL

#3 Jan 25, 2008
The rapture is when God is going to come and rescue those that are saved and those that are not will be left here on earth. They will go through the great tribulation which is suppose to last for about seven years. However, they will still have a chance to be saved it will just be harder than it is now. If they do believe in God their faith is going to best tested tremendously.Some of them will not be able to buy food or anything if they don't have the mark of the beast. Sounds kind of scary doesn't it? And it will occur whenever God says so!! So let's get our life right!!
Hail Mary

Tuscaloosa, AL

#4 Jan 25, 2008
And to the FedUpAmerican God is nothing to be played with!! Laugh now, cry later!! Whether you believe in God or not, just remember that at the end "Every head shall bow and every tongue shall confess that he is LORD".

“Religion stops a thinking mind”

Since: Nov 07

Salt Lake City, UT

#5 Jan 25, 2008
Hail Mary wrote:
And to the FedUpAmerican God is nothing to be played with!! Laugh now, cry later!! Whether you believe in God or not, just remember that at the end "Every head shall bow and every tongue shall confess that he is LORD".
Peddle your freaky beliefs elsewhere. Maybe the middle east is the place for you. They seem to be afflicted with the same sickness you have.

“Religion stops a thinking mind”

Since: Nov 07

Salt Lake City, UT

#6 Jan 25, 2008
Hail Mary wrote:
And to the FedUpAmerican God is nothing to be played with!! Laugh now, cry later!! Whether you believe in God or not, just remember that at the end "Every head shall bow and every tongue shall confess that he is LORD".
You are right on one count though; God is nothing to be played with. The frail human mind just can't quite grasp the concept of a god, it can only invent it.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#7 Jan 25, 2008
63 failed & 1 ambiguous end-of-the-world predictions from 30 CE to 1990 CE

Overview:
Some Christians and secular individuals predicted several momentous events that they believed are related:

* The second coming of Jesus Christ, when he returns to earth after almost two millennia.
* The war of Armageddon -- a massive battle in Israel.
* The arrival on earth of the Antichrist, an evil political, military leader.
* The Tribulation, a seven year interval of great suffering and death.
* The Rapture, when Christians who have been born again -- both living and dead -- will rise into the sky towards Jesus.
* Some horrendous natural disaster.
* etc.
Failed prophecies:

* About 30 CE: The Christian Scriptures (New Testament), when interpreted literally, appear to record many predictions by Jeshua of Nazareth (Jesus Christ) that God's Kingdom would arrive within a very short period, or was actually in the process of arriving. For example, Jesus is recorded as saying in Matthew 16:28: "...there shall be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." In Matthew 24:34, Yeshua is recorded as saying: "...This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Since the life expectancy in those days was little over 30 years, Jesus appears to have predicted his second coming sometime during the 1st century CE. It didn't happen. More details.
* About 60 CE: Interpreting the Epistles of Paul of Tarsus literally, his writings seem to imply that Jesus would return and usher in a rapture during the lifetime of persons who were living in the middle of the 1st century. More details.
* About 90 CE: Saint Clement 1 predicted that the world end would occur at any moment.
* 2nd Century CE: Prophets and Prophetesses of the Montanist movement predicted that Jesus would return sometime during their lifetime and establish the New Jerusalem in the city of Pepuza in Asia Minor.
* 365 CE: A man by the name of Hilary of Poitiers, announced that the end would happen that year. It didn't.
* 375 to 400 CE: Saint Martin of Tours, a student of Hilary, was convinced that the end would happen sometime before 400 CE.
* 500 CE: This was the first year-with-a-nice-round-number- panic. The antipope Hippolytus and an earlier Christian academic Sextus Julius Africanus had predicted Armageddon at about this year.
* 968 CE: An eclipse was interpreted as a prelude to the end of the world by the army of the German emperor Otto III.
* 992: Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation; this had long been believed to be the event that would bring forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times events foretold in the book of Revelation. Records from Germany report that a new sun rose in the north and that as many as 3 suns and 3 moons were fighting.
* 1000-JAN-1: Many Christians in Europe had predicted the end of the world on this date. As the date approached, Christian armies waged war against some of the Pagan countries in Northern Europe. The motivation was to convert them all to Christianity, by force if necessary, before Christ returned in the year 1000. Meanwhile, some Christians had given their possessions to the Church in anticipation of the end. Fortunately, the level of education was so low that many citizens were unaware of the year. They did not know enough to be afraid. Otherwise, the panic might have been far worse than it was. Unfortunately, when Jesus did not appear, the church did not return the gifts. Serious criticism of the Church followed. The Church reacted by exterminating some heretics.
* 1000-MAY: The body of Charlemagne was disinterred on Pentecost. A legend had arisen that an emperor would rise from his sleep to fight the Antichrist.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#8 Jan 25, 2008
* 1005-1006: A terrible famine throughout Europe was seen as a sign of the closeness of the end.
* 1033: Some believed this to be the 1000th anniversary of the death and resurrection of Jesus. His second coming was anticipated. Jesus' actual date of execution is unknown, but is believed to be in the range of 27 to 33 CE.
* 1147: Gerard of Poehlde decided that the millennium had actually started in 306 CE during Constantine's reign. Thus, the world end would happen in 1306 CE.
* 1179: John of Toledo predicted the end of the world during 1186. This estimate was based on the alignment of many planets.
* 1205: Joachim of Fiore predicted in 1190 that the Antichrist was already in the world, and that King Richard of England would defeat him. The Millennium would then begin, sometime before 1205.
* 1284: Pope Innocent III computed this date by adding 666 years onto the date the Islam was founded.
* 1346 and later: The black plague spread across Europe, killing one third of the population. This was seen as the prelude to an immediate end of the world. Unfortunately, the Christians had previously killed a many of the cats, fearing that they might be familiars of Witches. The fewer the cats, the more the rats. It was the rat fleas that spread the black plague.
* 1496: This was approximately 1500 years after the birth of Jesus. Some mystics in the 15th century predicted that the millennium would begin during this year.
* 1524: Many astrologers predicted the imminent end of the world due to a world wide flood. They obviously had not read the Genesis story of the rainbow.
* 1533: Melchior Hoffman predicted that Jesus' return would happen in 1533 and that the New Jerusalem would be established in Strasbourg, Germany. He was arrested and died in a Strasbourg jail.
* 1669: The Old Believers in Russia believed that the end of the world would occur in this year. 20 thousand burned themselves to death from 1669 to 1690 to protect themselves from the Antichrist.
* 1689: Benjamin Keach, a 17th century Baptist, predicted the end of the world for this year.
* 1736: British theologian and mathematician William Whitson predicted a great flood similar to Noah's for OCT-13 of this year.
* 1792: This was the date of the end of the world calculated by some believers in the Shaker movement.
* 1794: Charles Wesley, one of the founders of Methodism, thought Doomsday would be in this year.
* 1830: Margaret McDonald, a Christian prophetess, predicted that Robert Owen would be the Antichrist. Owen helped found New Harmony, IN.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#9 Jan 25, 2008
* 1832?: Joseph Smith (1805-1844) was the founder of the Church of Christ, which became the Restorationist movement after many schisms. It now includes The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints -- a.k.a. the Mormons, and about a hundred other denominations and sects. He heard a voice while praying. He wrote, in Doctrines and Covenants section 130:

14: "I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man, when I heard a voice repeat the following:"

15: "Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter."

16: "I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face."

17: "I believe the coming of the Son of Man will not be any sooner than that time." 14

The year in which this event occurred is not recorded. However, one commentator suggested 1832 or earlier. 16 Smith is later recorded as having said:

"I prophesy in the name of the Lord God, and let it be written--the Son of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am eighty-five years old." 17

Smith would have reached the age of 85 during 1890. Unfortunately, by that year, Smith had been dead for almost a half century, having been assassinated by a mob. Note that his prophecy is ambiguous. It can be interpreted that:

* Jesus would return during 1890 (which did not materialize) or that
* 1890 would pass without Jesus' return (which did come to pass).

Some anti-Mormon sources quote only verses 14 and 15, and draw the former conclusion -- that Smith's prophecy failed.

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And anyone else who thinks this Rapture thing will happen is just as stupid and insane as those who predicted the above.

For you confuse reality with your book of fiction and live your life full of delusion and fear which only leads to madness.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#10 Jan 25, 2008
Hail Mary wrote:
The rapture is when God is going to come and rescue those that are saved and those that are not will be left here on earth. They will go through the great tribulation which is suppose to last for about seven years. However, they will still have a chance to be saved it will just be harder than it is now. If they do believe in God their faith is going to best tested tremendously.Some of them will not be able to buy food or anything if they don't have the mark of the beast. Sounds kind of scary doesn't it? And it will occur whenever God says so!! So let's get our life right!!
HE'S really coming??!!!

Oh my God!!!! Everybody runnnnnn! HE'S coming!!!!! Their "loving" God Jesus is coming to kill us all and destroy all life on the planet!!!! So we all better hurry, grab our security blanket/bibles, and all huddle in a corner like scared little children sucking out thumbs while their ALL LOVING God Jesus kills us!
Wayne

United States

#11 Jan 25, 2008
Well, Seen is right, historically speaking. As far as the Rapture? Never gonna happen. When Christ comes back He will descend to Mount Olives, just as He left.

Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

Acts 1:10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#12 Jan 25, 2008
zazenmind wrote:
THE RAPTURE IS BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR A LONG TIME IN THE MINDS OF THOSE BLINDED BY RELIGIOUS IMPERIALISM, THAT TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD DECLARING THAT THEY ARE IN POSSESION OF THE ONLY TRUE FAITH AND ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE, AND THEY CALL THEMSELVES PEACE MAKERS.
Which religion is that? I know that those of the Christian faith have not said that the rapture has been taking place for a long time.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#13 Jan 25, 2008
Hail Mary wrote:
The rapture is when God is going to come and rescue those that are saved and those that are not will be left here on earth. They will go through the great tribulation which is suppose to last for about seven years. However, they will still have a chance to be saved it will just be harder than it is now. If they do believe in God their faith is going to best tested tremendously.Some of them will not be able to buy food or anything if they don't have the mark of the beast. Sounds kind of scary doesn't it? And it will occur whenever God says so!! So let's get our life right!!
Yes! But dont forget that those who refused God before the rapture will not be given another chance. Only the ones who didnt get a chance for salvation will be allowed an opportunity for salvation during the tribulation. Scripture states that the ones who refused Christ will have thier hearts hardened to the truth. It will be a very troubling and sad time for everyone. Most if not all whose choose Christ will probably have to give their lives during this period. Very troubling!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#14 Jan 25, 2008
FedUpAmerican wrote:
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Peddle your freaky beliefs elsewhere. Maybe the middle east is the place for you. They seem to be afflicted with the same sickness you have.
If you dont like this thread, leave.
No Fear

United States

#15 Jan 25, 2008
Wayne wrote:
Well, Seen is right, historically speaking. As far as the Rapture? Never gonna happen. When Christ comes back He will descend to Mount Olives, just as He left.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Acts 1:10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Acts 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
"his feet shall stand"
yes, in the 2 coming.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#16 Jan 25, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
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If you dont like this thread, leave.
Oh great, looks like this always right - you're wrong, hate filled troll found it's way onto this thread.

This one is seriously damaged goods and is a total waste of time.

Troll alert!
Wayne

United States

#17 Jan 25, 2008
Seentheotherside wrote:
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HE'S really coming??!!!
Oh my God!!!! Everybody runnnnnn! HE'S coming!!!!! Their "loving" God Jesus is coming to kill us all and destroy all life on the planet!!!! So we all better hurry, grab our security blanket/bibles, and all huddle in a corner like scared little children sucking out thumbs while their ALL LOVING God Jesus kills us!
Sheeeesh! Who's the troll?

“Ron Paul 2008 President”

Since: Nov 07

Guntersville, AL

#18 Jan 25, 2008
you people need to get educated on what is really going on in the world, and even in our country, in terms of evilness, and its worse than any islamo-fascist:

watch this documentary on google video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay...

“Religion stops a thinking mind”

Since: Nov 07

Salt Lake City, UT

#19 Jan 25, 2008
Kerdy 1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you dont like this thread, leave.
It will be a cold day in inbred redneck hell when you are able to make me, Skeeter.
Teresa

Lexington, TN

#20 Jan 25, 2008
FedUpAmerican wrote:
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It will be a cold day in inbred redneck hell when you are able to make me, Skeeter.
It was 11 degrees this morning on Booger Ridge in Fur Tick. That is no lie.

(Look it up on the map- but Fur Tick is actually the eastern-most part of Tick).

I'm not saying you should leave, I'm just saying that from your description, today's that day.

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