What is Wrong with the Nazarene Church

[unknown]

The Pastor at the Nazarene church is Corbin Ky is convicted in Federal court of hiring illegals. He hides this from his church members and althought the DS has been informed nothing is done about it! That makes the church look bad!

[Fastone Sabwera]

I guess we should not blame the church for the mishap, it is the pastor to blame and may be the administration as alleged in the posting

[Reba]

The church of the Nazarene has a problem with authority and covering up the "sins" of their pastors and district leaders. This is a common problem in denominations, as we see the way the Catholic Church covered up their priest's sins.
I just don't know who they think they are protecting. God is big enough to deal with the truth so why do we keep covering up the truth. There is a verse in the Bible that says the truth will set us free. When the truth is covered up, no matter how ugly, it still sets us free and is always the best choice. God believes in accountability so why do the leaders of the Nazarene Church keep blocking that accounability?

[Justo]

What's wrong with providing work for illegal immigrants? Are we not called to Jubilee living? I think you miss out entirely on Christ's teachings when you allign yourself with the possessive, materialistic, nationalistic nature of the Empire that is the United States in lieu of the all inclusive, provisionary nature of the Kingdom of God. For shame.

[Lucan Lucas]

The Church of the Nazarene is made up of people and ministered by people just like any other denomination, and because they are people, they sometimes lose sight of the mission of Christ and center it on themselves which leads to problems that inhibits the spread of Christ's word. Some of the problems are minor, some are major, some are criminal, some aren't, some are a sin of commission and some are a sin of ommission. We are called to live lives that are as Christlike, not perfect, because only Christ was perfect. We are in the process of "becoming", and because we are in that process, our humaness does come out, sometimes as purposeful sin, which needs to be punished, and honest mistakes, which needs to be acknowledged, and both of which needs to be forgiven. In that spirit, we should also be "other oriented" and not "self oriented", because that is the mission of Christ, to draw all people to him.... this is the mission of the Church of the Nazarene.... and the Baptists, the Lutherans, the Methodists, Freewill Baptists, Catholics etc. Regardless of denomination, we as believers are all commissioned to live lives that are holy, have relationships with others outside the "bubble" of the Church, and serve others.

[Dont Know Much]

I have been a lifelong Baptist. Recently, I started attending a Nazarene church and loved the preaching and praise and worship music as my church had became too watered down with no spirit led worship. Now I have big questions. Maybe someone can help me, I refuse to discuss this with the pastor because he seems to take offense and always blame things on the devil.
Here are things I am noticing and would like to know if this is a Nazarene way of doing things or is it just the church I'm attending? Please read the following carefully:
Preachings:
1. That nowhere in the bible does it say that you cannot drink although I think Christians should not. This is a pastor's direct quote. To me, I feel holy spirit conviction that this is wrong. He confuses the message with 'no drunkards shall enter heaven, wine is a mocker, etc. etc.' Really, it sends mixed messages and I am afraid that some former alcoholics in the church that are still very tempted, may see this as a green light to go drink.
2. The pastor does not lay his hands upon any females, although I did see him do it to an elderly woman once during altar call when he prays with them. Most times, he does not pray with the women. Women pray with the women. He will not counsel anyone without his wife present.
3. There is a 'lottery' I will call it going around the church. There has been a building fund set up, the church will not borrow the money to build on, so someone came up with this idea to have everyone draw an envelope and in this envelope is a pledge to give whatever amount stated on the paper to the building fund.
4. People that are not preachers are being allowed to stand up and preach in the church. Never experienced this at a Baptist church unless it was a guest pastor from another church. These are members of the congregation and I hate to say, some of them are definitely not 'anointed' although the pastor claims them to be so. They are better 'teachers' to me. They definitely don't get the holy spirit moving.
5. You can miss church for 2 weeks and no one will call you to see how you are or if you fell off the face of the earth. But, certain people are checked on if they just miss one day. Makes you feel insignificant and here they are always talking about fellowship, who wants to fellowship with people that don't demonstrate caring any better than that?
6. The custodian that was a member of the church was fired by the board (and I must say that I don't see where he wasn't keeping the church clean)the very person that fired him and complained is asking people and has been for months now to come in and clean the church. I feel that he should be the one cleaning the church because it is funny to me that once this custodian member of the church was removed, this board member was the very one to replace him as being the one leading the prayer requests before church and then filling his spot occasionally preaching before the church.
I am a witness that my pastor once told a church member that she was just coming to church for a car because they had given her one. He never apologized to her. I feel that the church is starting to be over ran with controlling people and the pastor is letting them have the authority over the church. I am not a member and I am thinking about giving my tithes and offerings to other humanitarian causes such as children's hospitals, etc. I feel that this church has become about money and greed. It was not this way in the beginning. Now it's always money money money. And I don't particularly agree with the drawing envelopes of up to $100 to put in the building fund and then announce it is due 2 wks later. That is wrong.

[Seriously]

I have thru the years met someone wonderful caring people from the nazarene church----- and on the other hand, i met some who were controlling, unloving, uncaring-----If you feel that something is not right------you should approch the pastor, if you can get to him,with respect, and ask your question in a christian way-----now depending on how he responds( positively, negatively, or blame you for not understanding, etc..... Then you will absolitely know if this is or not the congragation for you and your family

God bless