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How did people react when Jesus told people that he is God?

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Sidwell

Durban, South Africa

#1 Oct 9, 2013
And what did they do when he told them to worship him?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#2 Oct 11, 2013
And why do gods (alleged or otherwise) need to be worshipped?
Sidwell wrote:
And what did they do when he told them to worship him?

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#3 Oct 11, 2013
Sidwell wrote:
And what did they do when he told them to worship him?
HE didn't tell them to 'worship' him...

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#4 Oct 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And why do gods (alleged or otherwise) need to be worshipped?
<quoted text>
You'll have to ask HIM when you are on the hotseat...
Thinking

Royston, UK

#5 Oct 11, 2013
So you don't know.
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
You'll have to ask HIM when you are on the hotseat...

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Oct 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And why do gods (alleged or otherwise) need to be worshipped?
<quoted text>
Worshipping the gods minimizes the odds they'll turn you into a newt.
You don't want to be turned into a newt. Do you?

When you think about it, though, wasting time on Topix is a lot like being turned into a newt.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#7 Oct 11, 2013
"Why did you call your salamander 'Tiny'?"
"Because he's my-newt."
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
Worshipping the gods minimizes the odds they'll turn you into a newt.
You don't want to be turned into a newt. Do you?
When you think about it, though, wasting time on Topix is a lot like being turned into a newt.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#8 Oct 11, 2013
jesus loved a bit of anal, after all he was an arab

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#9 Oct 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And why do gods (alleged or otherwise) need to be worshipped?
<quoted text>
I realize you're not asking the question for want of an answer, but to convey contempt for the notion that God NEEDS to be worshipped.
And it's understandable believers impress you as having this notion, given the Fundies'-among-these believers frequently heard claim that God demands worship - that there WILL come a day when EVERY knee will be MADE to bow.
This is a perfect example of believers misinterpreting Scripture as supports what they need it to mean. In this case, the Scriptural passage is being misinterpreted as meaning, "You Athiest scoffers won't be laughing at us believers when you're being forced to kiss God's feet." (HAHAHA)
But hey, you should no more be informed by believers' misunderstanding of God, than you should consult a quack for a second medical opinion.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#10 Oct 11, 2013
If you don't believe your god needs to be worshipped, then my comment was addressed elsewhere.
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
I realize you're not asking the question for want of an answer, but to convey contempt for the notion that God NEEDS to be worshipped.
And it's understandable believers impress you as having this notion, given the Fundies'-among-these believers frequently heard claim that God demands worship - that there WILL come a day when EVERY knee will be MADE to bow.
This is a perfect example of believers misinterpreting Scripture as supports what they need it to mean. In this case, the Scriptural passage is being misinterpreted as meaning, "You Athiest scoffers won't be laughing at us believers when you're being forced to kiss God's feet." (HAHAHA)
But hey, you should no more be informed by believers' misunderstanding of God, than you should consult a quack for a second medical opinion.
Punisher

Mount Vernon, NY

#11 Oct 11, 2013
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
You'll have to ask HIM when you are on the hotseat...
I didnt worship because...well you never actually made yourself known to anyone, while your so-called believers relied on weird stories written by a bunch of people who didnt know the earth revolved around the Sun, and thought shrimp was bad for us, and didn't eat bacon! Bacon! How can I trust anyone who wont eat bacon!?! That was your cruel joke right? Deny Jews bacon? And the double sink thing too?

And IF I had been born in the times of these stories I might have believed in talking donkeys, and virgin births and stuff like that - it was simply impossible in the age when I was born...and then there was that dumb flood story complete with an ark filled with pairs of nearly every creature on the planet...really? I dont even believe they stuff that many clowns into those little cars at the circus, you wanted me to swallow that story whole? At least the clowns aren't in there for 40 days and shyting and peeing...

Plus your Son managed to attract and inspire more major arseholes than not, who believed it was their mission to convert people or else! Who readily jumped at the chance to vilify and marginalize and very often kill people they didnt like - often for some pretty lame reasons.

You never updated your story-line, which was a huge mistake on your part. Plus that contradictory book you allowed to be the epicenter of these Believers lives, which too many turned into an object of worship - against your rules - there just never seemed like you or anything like you was "out-there" looking down and giving a hamsters butt-hair what people did...in fact the way you set up the rules it apparently made NO difference as there was always that eleven o'clock chance to "believe" and get into your Night Club anyway...

So now that I see you, lets go inside and talk some stuff over...I'll get the first round.
Punisher

Mount Vernon, NY

#12 Oct 11, 2013
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
I realize you're not asking the question for want of an answer, but to convey contempt for the notion that God NEEDS to be worshipped.
And it's understandable believers impress you as having this notion, given the Fundies'-among-these believers frequently heard claim that God demands worship - that there WILL come a day when EVERY knee will be MADE to bow.
This is a perfect example of believers misinterpreting Scripture as supports what they need it to mean. In this case, the Scriptural passage is being misinterpreted as meaning, "You Athiest scoffers won't be laughing at us believers when you're being forced to kiss God's feet." (HAHAHA)
But hey, you should no more be informed by believers' misunderstanding of God, than you should consult a quack for a second medical opinion.
So after a few thousand years of the precedent of worship - what do you suggest?

How would you interpret that passage, or any of the ones that seem to say the non-believers are gonna be burned..? Do you have an alternative/s..?

How Do I know the second, or third doctor is a quack IF I dont go for a visit...? Do they have a quack doctor directory?

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#13 Oct 11, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>So after a few thousand years of the precedent of worship - what do you suggest?
How would you interpret that passage, or any of the ones that seem to say the non-believers are gonna be burned..? Do you have an alternative/s..?
How Do I know the second, or third doctor is a quack IF I dont go for a visit...? Do they have a quack doctor directory?
Punisher: "So after a few thousand years of the precedent of worship - what do you suggest?"

Never give up trying to know.

Punisher: "How would you interpret that passage, or any of the ones that seem to say the non-believers are gonna be burned..? Do you have an alternative/s..?"

Reject anything that contradicts Love as being Truth. Accept nothing as true that does.(contradict Love)

Punisher: "How Do I know the second, or third doctor is a quack IF I dont go for a visit...? Do they have a quack doctor directory?"

Cheeze Louise! How you find out the Dr. is a quack is irrelevant!
In the scenerio I was describing you already knew.
And the point was, that consulting a Dr. you KNOW is a quack, is comparable to being informed about God by believers you KNOW are clueless!

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#14 Oct 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If you don't believe your god needs to be worshipped, then my comment was addressed elsewhere.
<quoted text>
I don't consider God "my" God.
And no, I don't think God NEEDS, period; God LOVES.
I can't see that worship would be of much use to God anyway, being that for most people, worship is a formal ceremonial rendering of paying homage to God done at church.

Of course, worship is also defned as "adoring reverence". Now THAT I CAN relate to,(as can anyone else who loves the Lord.) "Adoring reverence" is practically a constant state of being for us.

But back to your question,.. would you clarify it for me, please? Are you asking why God needs to be worshipped?
Are you asking people IF THEY THINK God needs to be worshipped?
Or are you asking people WHY they think God needs to be worshipped?

.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#15 Oct 11, 2013
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't consider God "my" God.
And no, I don't think God NEEDS, period; God LOVES.
I can't see that worship would be of much use to God anyway, being that for most people, worship is a formal ceremonial rendering of paying homage to God done at church.
Of course, worship is also defned as "adoring reverence". Now THAT I CAN relate to,(as can anyone else who loves the Lord.) "Adoring reverence" is practically a constant state of being for us.
But back to your question,.. would you clarify it for me, please? Are you asking why God needs to be worshipped?
Are you asking people IF THEY THINK God needs to be worshipped?
Or are you asking people WHY they think God needs to be worshipped?
.

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#16 Oct 12, 2013
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't consider God "my" God.
And no, I don't think God NEEDS, period; God LOVES.
I can't see that worship would be of much use to God anyway, being that for most people, worship is a formal ceremonial rendering of paying homage to God done at church.
Of course, worship is also defned as "adoring reverence". Now THAT I CAN relate to,(as can anyone else who loves the Lord.) "Adoring reverence" is practically a constant state of being for us.
But back to your question,.. would you clarify it for me, please? Are you asking why God needs to be worshipped?
Are you asking people IF THEY THINK God needs to be worshipped?
Or are you asking people WHY they think God needs to be worshipped?
.
What does this mean?
John 4:23–24 (ESV)
23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.
Punisher

New York, NY

#19 Oct 12, 2013
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
Punisher: "So after a few thousand years of the precedent of worship - what do you suggest?"

1. Never give up trying to know.

Punisher: "How would you interpret that passage, or any of the ones that seem to say the non-believers are gonna be burned..? Do you have an alternative/s..?"

2. Reject anything that contradicts Love as being Truth. Accept nothing as true that does.(contradict Love)

Punisher: "How Do I know the second, or third doctor is a quack IF I dont go for a visit...? Do they have a quack doctor directory?"

Cheeze Louise! How you find out the Dr. is a quack is irrelevant!
In the scenerio I was describing you already knew.

3. And the point was, that consulting a Dr. you KNOW is a quack, is comparable to being informed about God by believers you KNOW are clueless!
1. Well that was rather trite.

2. This Love and Only Love, Love is the Answer to all Problems "Doctrine" is a fairly new one in Xtian history...and runs counter to the main themes and bulk of the passages in the Bible.

Yes, God has always loved us, and we should Love God has been there for some time - but this Mr. Nice Guy God, all warm and fuzzy and welcoming of all humans of all stripes and spots - is not exactly keeping true to the majority of what we can allegedly KNOW about this God via the Bible, and human interpretation and of course theology and doctrine derived thereof...

This Mr. All the Time Nice Guy God is an idea that seems to focus on one of the three heads...that being Jesus and only Jesus. Jesus has become the defacto Leader of the Band at this point, and not the Father who is the ultimate in the theology-doctrine.

Its sort of silly that modern Xtians have been trying to write over the Father as some sort of secondary character, an extra in the lineage who was but a short story line, a preamble to the Age of Love is the Answer, God is like a Grandparent all warm and fuzzy with pockets full of candy and loose change to hand out to the grand kids...

The Xtian God IS and always has been and remains a jealous, vindictive pri/k who will do whatever he wishes to his creations, all under the umbrella of being mysterious and of a mind and will unknowable to mere humans...with a plan that we can not comprehend with our feeble minds...

And while Jesus might be the more adorable of the two, he's supposed to come back and wreak some serious havoc on the towns peoples. Like a Clint Eastwood-ish lone cowboy type who saves the town but comes back to set himself up as King Muckity Muck and takes the towns women as his harem...or else...!

3. Last but not least...its mostly Believers who claim that other Believers are clueless - so who can know for sure - if agreement cant be reached among the ones who actually believe in all that BS?
Punisher

New York, NY

#20 Oct 12, 2013
janeebee wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't consider God "my" God.
And no, I don't think God NEEDS, period; God LOVES.
I can't see that worship would be of much use to God anyway, being that for most people, worship is a formal ceremonial rendering of paying homage to God done at church.
Of course, worship is also defned as "adoring reverence". Now THAT I CAN relate to,(as can anyone else who loves the Lord.) "Adoring reverence" is practically a constant state of being for us.
But back to your question,.. would you clarify it for me, please? Are you asking why God needs to be worshipped?

Are you asking people IF THEY THINK God needs to be worshipped?
Or are you asking people WHY they think God needs to be worshipped?
.
I think the general Q is after both of these questions...!

Add; Why do you think there has always been this Worship precedence (for 1000's of years)...and not this "adoring reverence" (whatever that truly is) as the main focus of Religious faith...?

Is there a NEW Revelation about this God that negates Worship?

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#21 Oct 12, 2013
swerty wrote:
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9). <quoted text>
What's your point? Do you believe in GOD? Do you believe the Bible?

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#22 Oct 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So you don't know.
<quoted text>
How would I know?

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