A thing or 2 about atheists. (Myself ...

A thing or 2 about atheists. (Myself anyways)

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“Vader2016!”

Since: Sep 10

The Deathstar

#1 Jul 24, 2013
1) Please don't threaten us with "hellfire" as we do not believe it exist.

2) We do not hate Christians. We just do not agree with your claim of divine inspiration.(I will say there are some extremist I hate) WBC comes to mind.

3) For that matter, we don't agree with anyone's claim of divine inspiration.(You are atheist after all as well, about every other god)

4) Science does not work in the "supernatural." So do not use the phrase "creation scientists." As that is not even a field of study and you just come off sounding silly.

5) Trying to disprove evolution does not mean a god exists and if you are going to argue about evolution then at least know how it works.(this is really apparent when one of you says "I never saw a dog give birth to a cat.")

6) Learning there was no heaven or hell is a bit disappointing but then you realize, you did not really have it to begin with so you lost nothing but the "idea" of heaven.

7) Life for the most part, becomes more precious and you learn more about self accountability.(good people/bad people do good/bad things, because they are good/bad people, not because evil spirits or a god are behind them.)

Like I said, I am not speaking for all atheists.. but I am speaking for myself and several others I know.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Jul 25, 2013
The cold hard reality is, if you 'wanted' Christians to condemn you 'outside' of the internet, most of the time you'd be pretty frustrated. You'd be spending more time trying to fish it out of Christians who probably really don't want to bother.

Here's a 'huge' misconception among many non-Christians in the U.S. The 'myth' that Christians are the sole aggressors, and if Christians kept quite (kept their faith to themselves) the Gospel message would be silent. What is largely overlooked is the fact that there are those who actively, without coercion, prompting, nudging, seek Christians. Some do so because they want to become Christians themselves. Some, because they want to 'argue' with Christians (sometimes the 2 examples given represent 'both').

This type of backing people against a wall probably happens a lot outside of media viewing, but here's an example 'from' the media:



I'm using this because youtube is an easy source to use. I'm not a regular viewer of the minister interviewed. I'm not particularly yay or nay in regards to his style of teaching.

We can see 'clearly' that this minister did 'not' want to get into the issue of eternal damnation. He wanted a friendly interview, and to get out of there. Mr. King however, wanted a soundbyte he could use to claim that the minister was condemning him to Hell. And the minister, didn't provide it for him.

More than likely, the majority of 'evangelical' Christians you run into, you probably don't know that they 'are' evangelical Christians. They don't tell you, and don't want to offend you.

I would even venture to say that there are probably people who go to Christian websites/forums just to be told they are going to Hell (ahem!), because they aren't getting enough of it from the outside world.

Think about it, which scenario is 'really' worse?

Let's just say for the sake of argument, your atheistic view turns out to be the correct one. You have encountered 2 Christians within a certain time period. One believes the Gospel message and 'sincerely' wants you to live in Heaven for eternity. He gives the warning of the rejection of the Gospel with the sincere desire to see you one day in Heaven. You of course give him your view. A bit disappointed, but accepts your decision respectfully, leaves never to cross your path again.

The 2nd encounter is a Christian who you only found out was a Christian indirectly somehow. This person is not mean. Enjoyed talking with you about any non-spiritual issue. But, the person, although truly believes in a Heaven and Hell, really didn't care where you end up in eternity.

I have no doubt that you can find some fringe group somewhere outside of the internet that would be happy to condemn you. Provide the soundbytes that can be used to suggest that evangelicals are malicious. But the cold hard fact is, the majority of evangelical Christians you may encounter probably don't want to bother getting into it with you.

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