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And yet even more evidence of the danger of Christianity

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Job

United States

#1 Nov 22, 2012
These horrible Christians are at it again. This time in the guise of teenage cheer leaders (I'm sure they were put up to this by the dominionists).

Some sugar-filled high school teenagers in Texas had the audicity to put scriptures on banners not only meant to support their team, but to encourage the other team as well during a football game (and we all know of course that this is proselytizing most foul).

Fortunately, those caped crusaders (figuratively speaking) known as the "Freedom From Religion" wrote a letter confronting those disciples of deciet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/us/court-sa...

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

UK

#2 Nov 22, 2012
Job wrote:
These horrible Christians are at it again. This time in the guise of teenage cheer leaders (I'm sure they were put up to this by the dominionists).
Some sugar-filled high school teenagers in Texas had the audicity to put scriptures on banners not only meant to support their team, but to encourage the other team as well during a football game (and we all know of course that this is proselytizing most foul).
Fortunately, those caped crusaders (figuratively speaking) known as the "Freedom From Religion" wrote a letter confronting those disciples of deciet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/us/court-sa...
According your link it was the school district who attempted to stop the religious banners being displayed.

"They called the efforts by the Kountze school district to prohibit the banners “a great insult” that was out of step with a state law requiring districts to treat student expression of religious views in the same manner that secular views are treated."

I wonder if there would have been as much support if the banners had displayed Islamic or Hindu verses.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#4 Nov 22, 2012
Palestinians must be really dumb. Every time they kill five Israelis the Israelis kill five hundred of them but the Palestinians keep lobbing bombs into Israel to see what will happen.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#14 Nov 22, 2012
MRSMURPHY wrote:
<quoted text>Unlike the US who with Pres. Obama is in the terrorist ass kissing business.
Really?

The initial funding and development of the Iron Dome system was provided and undertaken by Israel.[23] This allowed for the deployment of the first two Iron Dome systems.[24] Subsequently, funding for an additional eight Iron Dome systems—along with funding for a supply of interception missiles—is currently being provided by the United States, with two of these additional systems having been delivered by 2012.[24] Funding for the production and deployment of these additional Iron Dome batteries and interceptor missiles was approved by the United States Congress, after being requested by President Obama in 2010.[25] In May 2010, the White House announced that U.S. President Barack Obama would seek $205 million from U.S. Congress in his 2011 budget, to spur the production and deployment of additional Iron Dome batteries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#16 Nov 22, 2012
MRSMURPHY wrote:
<quoted text>Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Paul Bunyan

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#17 Nov 22, 2012
MRSMURPHY wrote:
<quoted text>Unlike the US who with Pres. Obama is in the terrorist ass kissing business.
No kidding?:

Drone strikes

Strikes under the Bush Administration: 52
Strikes under the Obama Administration: 298
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_attacks_in...

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#18 Nov 22, 2012
MRSMURPHY wrote:
<quoted text>Unlike the US who with Pres. Obama is in the terrorist ass kissing business.
If you're still not convinced :

In April 2011, President Obama ordered a covert operation to kill or capture bin Laden. On May 2, 2011, the White House announced that U.S. Navy SEALs had carried it out, killing him in his Abbottabad compound in Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#...

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#20 Nov 22, 2012
MRSMURPHY wrote:
<quoted text>I have no faith, nor trust in him what so ever.. Post all you want, I believe he is a limp wristed phoney. I do not care to argue, that is my opinion and I am entitled same as you.. I am not a juice drinker. Good night.
You do have the right to your own opinion but you don't have the right to your own facts. If you seriously think Obama is a terrorist sympathizer, you are severely deluded. I don't agree with a lot of the policies (drone strikes, NDAA, Guantanimo). But really, this terrorist sympathyzer crap is just ridiculous.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#21 Nov 22, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
1. <quoted text>
According your link it was the school district who attempted to stop the religious banners being displayed.

"They called the efforts by the Kountze school district to prohibit the banners “a great insult” that was out of step with a state law requiring districts to treat student expression of religious views in the same manner that secular views are treated."

2. I wonder if there would have been as much support if the banners had displayed Islamic or Hindu verses.
1. Yes, after they received a letter from the "FFR". This is apparently something that is not uncommon. It's not until someone(s) lays down a complaint that a school like this responds.

2. It's an interesting question. My guess is there wouldn't be as there probably is not many Hindus and Muslims in Texas. But...that question is of no relevance to this incident. An assumption that Hindu and Muslim scripture wouldn't get much support is not any kind of a case to make 'against' these cheerleaders.

But while we're at it; I wonder if the "FFR" would have sent the school a letter if it 'was' Hindu or Muslim scripture?
Listen To This

Charleston, WV

#22 Nov 22, 2012
But you guys are talking mostly about Palestinians and Jews. Christians pose no threat to anyone. Christians love Jews, Palestinians, and even people like all of you. Hey! I could find at least one thing to agree with Mrs. Murphy about. Wow! Imagine that (post 19). However, I do like cranberry joice, orange juice, and grape juice. Christians are no threat--of any form of violence, or anything like that. But I do know prayer changes things. I know that God inhabits the praises of His people. I know that God is real. I know that, "with Christ, all things are possible." Even when it comes to people with hardened hearts getting another chance to "see" God working in situations. I hope we don't always miss Him. He's there to see. I pray that God opens all our hearts and ears and eyes in a spiritual kind of way. It' what we need. That goes out for us all--Christian and nonChristian, alike. Christians need renewing and refreshing from God to. Christians can be some of the best friends some of you will ever have. Enjoy them if you have some true Jesus-loving ones. They're worth their weight and more in "the salt of the earth." I think you guys know what I mean. It's not about a Christian being better than anyone else, neither. It's more about what God has done for us. "What He's done for others, He'll do for you."

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

UK

#23 Nov 22, 2012
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Yes, after they received a letter from the "FFR". This is apparently something that is not uncommon. It's not until someone(s) lays down a complaint that a school like this responds.
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
But while we're at it; I wonder if the "FFR" would have sent the school a letter if it 'was' Hindu or Muslim scripture?
The "FFR" are not mentioned in the article you linked to.
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
2. It's an interesting question. My guess is there wouldn't be as there probably is not many Hindus and Muslims in Texas. But...that question is of no relevance to this incident. An assumption that Hindu and Muslim scripture wouldn't get much support is not any kind of a case to make 'against' these cheerleaders.
I'm not making any case against the cheerleaders. I'm just expressing my doubt regarding the 'support' for free expression of ones religious beliefs. AFAIAC this has to apply across ALL beliefs or none at all.
job

Santa Clara, CA

#24 Nov 23, 2012
Roland_Deschain wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>

1. The "FFR" are not mentioned in the article you linked to.
<quoted text>

2. I'm not making any case against the cheerleaders. I'm just expressing my doubt regarding the 'support' for free expression of ones religious beliefs. AFAIAC this has to apply across ALL beliefs or none at all.
1. My apologies.

http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/15962...

2. I understand. My point is that since 'other' religious scripture usage is not a part of this issue, it wouldn't/shouldn't (if someone were to actually make an issue of this) have any effect on the usage of Biblical scripture on banners at this particular school. It wouldn't (for instance), in my opinion, make sense to maintain that Hindu and/or Muslim scripture be included on the banner just because we have to have this aura of religious equality. I know that you in specific are not making this claim, but we literally do have this type of confusion in the U.S. from those who feel the need to create generic "religious equalizing" scenarios.

An example would be a school district in Massachusetts who added another day off for students to honor a Muslim holiday, simply because there have been Christian and Jewish holidays honored. Although I'm sure many students love the idea, and I would have as well, this has created a conflict with those who feel that there are already 'enough' if not 'too' many days off. And they are not really giving the holiday itself full honor, as they won't allow animal sacrificing. It was apparently just added to create some sort of "fairness" to the Islamic religion/Muslims.

And then there's the very bizarre support of Sharia Law. And a lot of this seems to circle around the idea that we need to do a sort of religious editing in our country where some have a hard time coming to grips with our Christian heritage.
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#25 Nov 23, 2012
Job wrote:
These horrible Christians are at it again. This time in the guise of teenage cheer leaders (I'm sure they were put up to this by the dominionists).
Some sugar-filled high school teenagers in Texas had the audicity to put scriptures on banners not only meant to support their team, but to encourage the other team as well during a football game (and we all know of course that this is proselytizing most foul).
Fortunately, those caped crusaders (figuratively speaking) known as the "Freedom From Religion" wrote a letter confronting those disciples of deciet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/us/court-sa...
Do any of the non-Christian kids in that school have any rights?

“How seldom we weigh our neighbors in the same balance as ourselves.”~Thomas à Kempis
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#27 Nov 23, 2012
Listen To This wrote:
But you guys are talking mostly about Palestinians and Jews. Christians pose no threat to anyone. Christians love Jews, Palestinians, and even people like all of you. Hey! I could find at least one thing to agree with Mrs. Murphy about. Wow! Imagine that (post 19). However, I do like cranberry joice, orange juice, and grape juice. Christians are no threat--of any form of violence, or anything like that. But I do know prayer changes things. I know that God inhabits the praises of His people. I know that God is real. I know that, "with Christ, all things are possible." Even when it comes to people with hardened hearts getting another chance to "see" God working in situations. I hope we don't always miss Him. He's there to see. I pray that God opens all our hearts and ears and eyes in a spiritual kind of way. It' what we need. That goes out for us all--Christian and nonChristian, alike. Christians need renewing and refreshing from God to. Christians can be some of the best friends some of you will ever have. Enjoy them if you have some true Jesus-loving ones. They're worth their weight and more in "the salt of the earth." I think you guys know what I mean. It's not about a Christian being better than anyone else, neither. It's more about what God has done for us. "What He's done for others, He'll do for you."
Christianity controlled the Western World for 13 centuries and people came to this country to get away from the intolerance and persecution.

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned…”--Thomas Jefferson

Be afraid. Be very afraid!
job

Santa Clara, CA

#28 Nov 23, 2012
Big Al wrote:
<quoted text>
Do any of the non-Christian kids in that school have any rights?
“How seldom we weigh our neighbors in the same balance as ourselves.”~Thomas à Kempis
I'm sure they do, although I'm not aware of any of them complaining. What rights do you think may be being violated?
FSM

Collingwood, Australia

#29 Nov 23, 2012
Anglo saxon 18 wrote:
They should just get their tits out, that's the best way to inspire young men
Hell yes! Oh wait a minute, I'm over 30. Does that make me a dirty old creep?
FSM

Collingwood, Australia

#30 Nov 23, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
Palestinians must be really dumb. Every time they kill five Israelis the Israelis kill five hundred of them but the Palestinians keep lobbing bombs into Israel to see what will happen.
Yep, theists are that dumb. Thank god for theism. ;)
FSM

Collingwood, Australia

#31 Nov 23, 2012
York lad wrote:
I agree, muslims & Jews killing each other is a win win situation as far as I'm concerned. And there's many who think like me. I'm sick of the whining on both sides. it is of no consequence to me.
I heard on the vine that some of them are actual REAL human beings. Who'd have known? Maybe we should care. Just sayin'.
FSM

Collingwood, Australia

#32 Nov 23, 2012
Listen To This wrote:
But you guys are talking mostly about Palestinians and Jews. Christians pose no threat to anyone. Christians love Jews, Palestinians, and even people like all of you. Hey! I could find at least one thing to agree with Mrs. Murphy about. Wow! Imagine that (post 19). However, I do like cranberry joice, orange juice, and grape juice. Christians are no threat--of any form of violence, or anything like that. But I do know prayer changes things. I know that God inhabits the praises of His people. I know that God is real. I know that, "with Christ, all things are possible." Even when it comes to people with hardened hearts getting another chance to "see" God working in situations. I hope we don't always miss Him. He's there to see. I pray that God opens all our hearts and ears and eyes in a spiritual kind of way. It' what we need. That goes out for us all--Christian and nonChristian, alike. Christians need renewing and refreshing from God to. Christians can be some of the best friends some of you will ever have. Enjoy them if you have some true Jesus-loving ones. They're worth their weight and more in "the salt of the earth." I think you guys know what I mean. It's not about a Christian being better than anyone else, neither. It's more about what God has done for us. "What He's done for others, He'll do for you."
Christians need a dose of reality, or 5 shots of JD. Take your pick.
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#34 Nov 23, 2012
job wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure they do, although I'm not aware of any of them complaining. What rights do you think may be being violated?
If one of the cheerleaders happened not to be a believer I don’t think she should be forced to carry or in any way be part of group espousing a biblical message. Or do you think all cheerleaders should be believers?

"How dismal it is to see present day Americans yearning for the very orthodoxy that their country was founded to escape." — Christopher Hitchens

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