Why Are Unbeliers In the Christian Fo...

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#190 Apr 24, 2013
This is one of the reasons why I am in these forums. This story epitomizes the nadir of evangelical/fundamentalist Christian arrogance:

"Couple's 2nd Child Dies After They Chose Prayer Over Medical Help"

"A Pennsylvania couple is accused of letting a second child die by refusing to seek medical medical treatment and relying on the power of prayer.

"The case has drawn national attention because it's the second time the couple is accused of this crime. Herbert and Catherine Schaible are on probation for the 2009 death of their 2-year-old son, who died of pneumonia. They're now accused of allowing their 8-month-old son to die after he suffered diarrhea and breathing problems.

"The couple's probation required them to seek medical care for their other seven kids. That allowed them to avoided jail even though they were convicted of involuntary manslaughter.

"The Schaibles are members of the First Century Gospel Church, which believes in treating illnesses with prayer, and that seeking medical treatment is a sin."

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/5745-couple...
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This story illustrates why belief in Satan, God, sin, and the "power" of prayer are dangerous things. Two little children who could have been saved died for no reason, because their parents believed in the lies that evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity spreads.

Why haven't any moderate or liberal Christians spoken out about this?

Are you afraid to admit that praying is NOT an effective way of healing a sick child?

Are you afraid to admit that medicine and science are efficacious, whereas prayer is ineffective?

I am really angry at the Christian community, and at local Philadelphia law enforcement, for its failure to prevent this terrible tragedy.
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#191 Apr 24, 2013
Notwithstanding that, I am happy to correct you.
Nick wrote:
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I am happy to use Im !
Punisher

Mount Vernon, NY

#192 Apr 24, 2013
Gary Coaldigger wrote:
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The reason why they are on here is to challenge you to see how those like you actually live up to your beliefs and so far you haven't done all that good of a job.
You cherry pick scriptures to try and justify your side of the argument,you also chastise and judge them who doesn't go to suit you,doesn't believe as you do and who may say things that offends you about yourself and/or your beliefs.
All you and a few others on here who claim to be a Christian only wants to talk about gloom and doom,the wrath of God,judgment day and burning in the lake of fire.
You never explain to any one on here about what salvation is,about why Jesus died on the cross.
Those like you who gets on here wanting to advocate Christianity are doing such a very piss poor job of it that you ought to be ashamed of yourself,I'm pretty sure that the Lord is ashamed of you yet you are too arrogant to see the errors that others are seeing you make on here.

Yes,you have some Biblical knowledge and I

do not doubt that you do,indeed,believe in God and your love for God

but what you fail to understand is that what you are doing and how you are advocating Christianity on here is not only not reaching out to a few of those who are seeking salvation from the eternal Hell fire but you are not reaching out to anyone and whenever you come back on Atheists and others on here that don't believe as you do like you do on here you are just stirring up a hornet's nest and in the result you are getting exactly what you deserve and that is what you are dishing out to them.
Is it really love when all they do is wish torture for someone who wont like their friend on their say so...? I mean if I knew my friends were doing that, re; me, I'd be piss/d.

Xtians are usually not very good at the softer sell, they prefer to force it on others...its in their genetics.
Punisher

Mount Vernon, NY

#193 Apr 24, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
This is one of the reasons why I am in these forums. This story epitomizes the nadir of evangelical/fundamentalist Christian arrogance:
"Couple's 2nd Child Dies After They Chose Prayer Over Medical Help"
"A Pennsylvania couple is accused of letting a second child die by refusing to seek medical medical treatment and relying on the power of prayer.
"The case has drawn national attention because it's the second time the couple is accused of this crime. Herbert and Catherine Schaible are on probation for the 2009 death of their 2-year-old son, who died of pneumonia. They're now accused of allowing their 8-month-old son to die after he suffered diarrhea and breathing problems.
"The couple's probation required them to seek medical care for their other seven kids. That allowed them to avoided jail even though they were convicted of involuntary manslaughter.
"The Schaibles are members of the First Century Gospel Church, which believes in treating illnesses with prayer, and that seeking medical treatment is a sin."
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/5745-couple...
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This story illustrates why belief in Satan, God, sin, and the "power" of prayer are dangerous things. Two little children who could have been saved died for no reason, because their parents believed in the lies that evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity spreads.
Why haven't any moderate or liberal Christians spoken out about this?
Are you afraid to admit that praying is NOT an effective way of healing a sick child?
Are you afraid to admit that medicine and science are efficacious, whereas prayer is ineffective?
I am really angry at the Christian community, and at local Philadelphia law enforcement, for its failure to prevent this terrible tragedy.
I guarantee if a poll was taken, most Fundy American Xtians would deem it okay to excuse this couple, because of their faith. How how much stronger is this couple's faith, than most of the ones we see around here...? A thousand fold? Higher?

Since: Jun 12

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#194 Apr 24, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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The real God sent atheists to talk to christians? LMAO
Just stop. You're getting more and more ridiculous. This has nothing to do with the bible or "fear mongering". It has to do with your dislike of christians. Hey I think christianity is as false as the god that you made up and refuse to show proof of lol. But I dont dislike christians and follow them around chiming in with atheists who will call my God fake just as your god or theirs. You can keep saying "try again" because thats how you avoid posts so you dont actually have to respond to it. So go ahead with the "try again" and "you're condescending Flygerian" while you're the one that throws insults around =/
So ok, you are obviously mentally deficient as you almost always come back with some off topic thing, or bunch of lies like in the above, that has >>>NOTHING<< < to do with my post. So here, try again:

"Or maybe:

6. The real God sent us UNbrainwashed ones here to show you Christians how you have been led astray/brainwashed by the lies of MAN. And are really spiritually ignorant with your ability to have rational thought broken by the FEAR mongering brainwashing."

And to those reading these posts, you can tell his defense of his mythology is weak since all he can do is rely upon deceit and lies to avoid facing that his inane mythology, is just inane mythology.

Since: Jun 12

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#195 Apr 24, 2013
Nick wrote:
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Ok, why are you in a christian forum?
To spiritually test and judge the mostly clueless Christians, and show them the falseness of their spiritually void mythology. For these Christians have been lead astray with lies about God. With occasional instructions to pass some spiritual information on to someone who is genuinely in need of such information on their spiritual path.

So why are YOU here?

Since: Jun 12

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#196 Apr 24, 2013
Nick wrote:
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I am happy to use Im !
And you wear your "Im" badge of ignorance very well.
yes

Tucson, AZ

#197 Apr 24, 2013
NKJ John 17:14 "I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
The non believer will always be of this world. For they do not understand. They will try to seek answers that they have already found but will be decieved by lies and follow the worlds teaching. I pray to everyone to have a good Faith. And when the waves of non believers come crashing through our door I hope christian soldiers will still keep on marching.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#198 Apr 25, 2013
Gary Coaldigger wrote:
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The reason why they are on here is to challenge you to see how those like you actually live up to your beliefs and so far you haven't done all that good of a job.
Your Biblical illiteracy noted, again.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#199 Apr 25, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
This is one of the reasons why I am in these forums. This story epitomizes the nadir of evangelical/fundamentalist Christian arrogance:
"Couple's 2nd Child Dies After They Chose Prayer Over Medical Help"
"A Pennsylvania couple is accused of letting a second child die by refusing to seek medical medical treatment and relying on the power of prayer.
"The case has drawn national attention because it's the second time the couple is accused of this crime. Herbert and Catherine Schaible are on probation for the 2009 death of their 2-year-old son, who died of pneumonia. They're now accused of allowing their 8-month-old son to die after he suffered diarrhea and breathing problems.
"The couple's probation required them to seek medical care for their other seven kids. That allowed them to avoided jail even though they were convicted of involuntary manslaughter.
"The Schaibles are members of the First Century Gospel Church, which believes in treating illnesses with prayer, and that seeking medical treatment is a sin."
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/5745-couple...
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This story illustrates why belief in Satan, God, sin, and the "power" of prayer are dangerous things. Two little children who could have been saved died for no reason, because their parents believed in the lies that evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity spreads.
Why haven't any moderate or liberal Christians spoken out about this?
Are you afraid to admit that praying is NOT an effective way of healing a sick child?
Are you afraid to admit that medicine and science are efficacious, whereas prayer is ineffective?
I am really angry at the Christian community, and at local Philadelphia law enforcement, for its failure to prevent this terrible tragedy.
But it doesn't bother you that MILLIONS have died from medical mistakes. You are a biased hypocrite.
Thinking

Wincanton, UK

#200 Apr 25, 2013
John 21:22

Yet John is dead.

The bible is bollocks.
yes wrote:
NKJ John 17:14 "I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
The non believer will always be of this world. For they do not understand. They will try to seek answers that they have already found but will be decieved by lies and follow the worlds teaching. I pray to everyone to have a good Faith. And when the waves of non believers come crashing through our door I hope christian soldiers will still keep on marching.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#201 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Notwithstanding that, I am happy to correct you.
<quoted text>
I will point out that you are a leading candidate for most ignorant posts in Topix. Now you know at least one thing.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#202 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
John 21:22
Yet John is dead.
The bible is bollocks.
<quoted text>
Don't you have any opinion that isn't from your father Satan? Not even one?
Thinking

Wincanton, UK

#203 Apr 25, 2013
I got another clone!
Some dishonest christian freak in America says I hate gays.
It's very flattering.
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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And you wear your "Im" badge of ignorance very well.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#204 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I got another clone!
Some dishonest christian freak in America says I hate gays.
It's very flattering.
<quoted text>
More lies. Satan is truly your father. You are his slave. Thank you Jesus for revealing the hearts of Satan's children for all to see.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#206 Apr 25, 2013
Hardie-Har-Har wrote:
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Still squawking to that worn-out, 2,000 year-old bag of bones, we see!
And, anyone can clearly see thru U,$$!
Poor little child of Satan heading for Hell fire, following your fathers coattails ...

"the furnace of fire"

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Since: Oct 07

UK

#207 Apr 25, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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More lies. Satan is truly your father. You are his slave. Thank you Jesus for revealing the hearts of Satan's children for all to see.
pray do tell dollarsbill how come you believe people ..Gods own creation ..to be children of satan and demon possessed ect.. yet all you do is point your finger at them ..why arent you casting out them demons and setting Gods creation free from them?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#208 Apr 25, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>pray do tell dollarsbill how come you believe people ..Gods own creation ..to be children of satan and demon possessed ect.. yet all you do is point your finger at them ..why arent you casting out them demons and setting Gods creation free from them?
Do tell why your posts exhibit Biblical ignorance? You hid in the grass lie a Serpent.
Thinking

Wincanton, UK

#209 Apr 25, 2013
dumbbill started this thread with the word "Unbelier".
You won't get much sense out of dumbbill.
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>pray do tell dollarsbill how come you believe people ..Gods own creation ..to be children of satan and demon possessed ect.. yet all you do is point your finger at them ..why arent you casting out them demons and setting Gods creation free from them?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#210 Apr 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
dumbbill started this thread with the word "Unbelier".
You won't get much sense out of dumbbill.
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A typo is not ignorance. Your ignorance noted.

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