Common Sense

San Diego, CA

#1310 Sep 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Everybody will recycle and the US will go into captivity until we forsake our idols and turn to the Lord God with our whole heart. We are the house of Israel. The righteous meek will inherit the earth and angels are spirit beings, angels don't eat. "The simple believe every word, but the prudent man looks well to his going". Prov. 14:15.
If everybody goes into captivity in the US, and angles are the only ones that don't eat, who plants the crops and does human waste management for the current 350 million people?? Just curious..
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#1311 Sep 8, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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If everybody goes into captivity in the US, and angles are the only ones that don't eat, who plants the crops and does human waste management for the current 350 million people?? Just curious..
10% of Americans will survive into captivity. Isaiah 6:13. We will be consumed by sword, famine and pestilence. So that answers your question right there. Our infrastructure will totally shut down. "Therefore has the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate; therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". Isaiah 24:6. A few is three, but I think it means 3%(of the worlds population)
feces for jesus

East Meadow, NY

#1312 Sep 8, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Actually, gay means homersexual... it's not used in reference to happy or carefree... hasn't since the 50s...
You LOSE! but then, no one said you were the 'brightest' bulb on the tree...
Homersexual? That's a new one.

You can't change the definition of a word, dimwit. It's definition as happy/carefree is still valid.
Common Sense

San Diego, CA

#1313 Sep 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>10% of Americans will survive into captivity. Isaiah 6:13. We will be consumed by sword, famine and pestilence. So that answers your question right there. Our infrastructure will totally shut down. "Therefore has the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate; therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". Isaiah 24:6. A few is three, but I think it means 3%(of the worlds population)
If the infrastructure shuts down how will the 35 million surviving US citizens get food to eat, manna from heaven?

Is this a god of love doing this wonderful stuff, or the old testament god that sanctions innocent babies being cut from the mothers womb and dashed to the ground??
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#1315 Sep 8, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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If the infrastructure shuts down how will the 35 million surviving US citizens get food to eat, manna from heaven?
Is this a god of love doing this wonderful stuff, or the old testament god that sanctions innocent babies being cut from the mothers womb and dashed to the ground??
Famine means starvation. I'd advise all Americans to fatten up as much as they can to survive this. Where in the OT does it advocate killing babies?

“I'll have some FSM...”

Since: Sep 10

with a side order of awesome!

#1316 Sep 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Famine means starvation. I'd advise all Americans to fatten up as much as they can to survive this. Where in the OT does it advocate killing babies?
Not the Brightest bulb on the Christmas tree eh?

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
--The Bible
Numbers 31:17-18

"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them."
--The Bible
Jeremiah 19:9

"Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished."
--The Bible
Isaiah 13:16

"Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers..."
--The Bible
Isaiah 14:21

"The LORD said to Moses,'Do not be afraid of him, for I have handed him over to you, with his whole army and his land. Do to him what you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who reigned in Heshbon.' So they struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army, leaving them no survivors. And they took possession of his land."
--The Bible
Numbers 21:34-35

"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city."
--The Bible
Deuteronomy 3:6

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Under their teachings men waste and misdirect their energies, abandon the ends that can be accomplished, dedicate their lives to the impossible, worship the unknown, pray to the inconceivable, and become the trembling slaves of a monstrous myth born of ignorance and fashioned by the trembling hands of fear."
--Robert Green Ingersoll, 1877
"The Truth"
Common Sense

San Diego, CA

#1317 Sep 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Famine means starvation. I'd advise all Americans to fatten up as much as they can to survive this. Where in the OT does it advocate killing babies?
Is your god a god of love doing this, or the old testament god that "sanctions" innocent babies being dashed to pieces and women with child ripped up???

Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#1318 Sep 8, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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Is your god a god of love doing this, or the old testament god that "sanctions" innocent babies being dashed to pieces and women with child ripped up???
Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.
It doesn't say God is responsible for that, it's just saying that's what will happen. Not everything in the bible is commanded by God.
The truth works

Euless, TX

#1319 Sep 8, 2013
Who feels God and who follows what others tell them to feel about some god? As that guy on Curious George says "it's unique" for each person.

What's the freaking problem anyway?

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1320 Sep 8, 2013
science is stupid. peope need to get on theyre knees and worship GOD.

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1321 Sep 8, 2013
homo basterds hate God. we need God in our schools, not science.
The truth works

Euless, TX

#1322 Sep 8, 2013
BobLoBlaah wrote:
homo basterds hate God. we need God in our schools, not science.
Do you know a poster known as Dollarsbill?
The truth works

Euless, TX

#1323 Sep 8, 2013
BobLoBlaah wrote:
science is stupid. peope need to get on theyre knees and worship GOD.
I worship God from a sitting position as I contemplate the wonderful world of science.

I am a multi-tasker!
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#1324 Sep 8, 2013
Big Al wrote:
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Apparently, then, you are much more tolerant than the “God” you believe in. His promise of eternal punishment for all of us who don’t believe in “Him” and worship “Him” based on a 2,000 year-old book seems intolerant to me.
To paraphrase Thomas Paine who said,“Belief in a cruel god makes a cruel man”-- belief in an intolerant god makes an intolerant man.
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Christians are not only attempting to foist creationism on innocent public school children as science but they are also attempting to impose their beliefs about abortion on pregnant women, as well as attempting to prevent young people from learning about methods of birth control to name a few things.
This is pretty much a liberal/conservative issue. The liberals that make these claims also tend to overlook the barbarism of Planned Parenthood. Infanticide is not merely an ancient Near Middle East affair, but is happening today right here in the USA.

As far as the science issue, we have Creationist Scientists and ID proponents who want both evolution and creationism/ID taught side by side by, and from there allow individuals to make their choice.

Do you think that if 'both' creationism and evolutionism were presented equally that creationism would ultimately be seen for what evolutionists claim it is?
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#1325 Sep 8, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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In typical fashion you didn't answer my question. Here they are again.
How or why do you think scientists got the age of this predators fossil so wrong?????????.Assuming you think "the fall of man" happened around 10,000 years ago, you claim science is off by 499,990,000 years
Excerpt:
South Australian Museum and University of Adelaide scientists working on fossils from Kangaroo Island have found eyes belonging to a giant 500 million-year-old marine predator that sat at the top of Earth's first food chain.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/...
When you ask questions, it seems that you are sort of demanding answers to be answered the way you want them to be answered. I think this type of expectation will just bring you to a lot of frustration.

First off, I would like to know from your point of view how accurate you think dating methods really are? Are you asking the question in such a way claiming that they cannot be off by a certain amount of years, or at all? The question is not whether or not science is off 499,990,000 years, but if the scientists making the claim are accurate.

Have dating calculations ever been off enough to where the scientists readjusted the suggested ages?
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#1326 Sep 8, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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1. I think it's possible he conversed with someone he "thought" was Jesus "IF" the NDE is a real experience rather than the dying process of the brain eventually ending consciousness.

2. Here's a link, about a lesbian NDE that your book full of bigotry condemn for "choosing" to change their sexuality which is totally false..
Excerpt:

3. Countless near-death experiences describe the unconditional love that God has for everyone. This, of course, includes gays and lesbians. Just the fact that God created so many homosexuals (approximately 10% of the population) should be enough proof for any reasonable person. Unfortunately, there are people out there who, out of ignorance, fear, and bigotry, persecute them by treating them as second class citizens.
http://www.near-death.com/dale.html#a05
1. Then it would appear that just as Christians (and non-Christians) are accused of cherry-picking scripture, you seem to be in a sense cherry-picking NDE experiences. In other words, it sounds good when it's a child reunited with a pet (which may very well happen from a Christian perspective in that the Bible doesn't go into detail on what happens with animals after death), but when it involves an interaction with Jesus, then there is a loosely/generalized explanation. And out of curiosity, who might he have talked to while in a coma 'other' than Jesus?

2. The irony is that the person I am talking about had lived the gay lifestyle at one time. He also mentioned to me that part of the surprise was the love he experienced when encountering Jesus. He said that expressed the surprise to Jesus that He would actually bring someone like him into Heaven.

The whole sexual identity issue is blown way out of proportion. God doesn't look at individuals as straight and homosexual. What God condemns is adultery and fornication. What God approves of is a completely committed union between a man and a woman. Anything outside of that is sexual sin. Anyone acting outside of that boundary can always 'turn', and Christ receives them with open arms. And Christ's love will ultimately win out over any pseudo tolerance humanists think they practice.

3. Assuming that you're referring to homophobia, this is not relegated to Christianity. Homophobia exists everywhere amongst peoples of all types of views including non-religious.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#1327 Sep 8, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
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1. I say this from the heart Job. When I ask you a question that threatens your faith, you resort to smoke and mirrors like a snake oil salesman to avoid the question.

2. You-enthusiastically- answered "YES" to question 1. saying ***people will be tortured in flames if they don't believe in Jesus***..Why did you answer question 2. with a non-answer??? Cultural Christianity and Richard Dawkins have nothing do with the question I asked you..Your avoidance of answering questions (I've seen many times) shows the insecurity you have with your faith IMHO..Here's the question again..
3. In most cases, a persons religious belief is determined by the country of their birth, rejecting all other religions....Do you believe this is true, yes or no?***
1. It may be your honest opinion, and may be from your heart, but these questions don't threaten my faith. It may sound boastful, but that's pretty much impossible. There was a time when you may have been able to, but that would have been before I was 'convinced'. This is another issue that I don't think many understand. There 'are' Christians who had/have 'conditional' belief in the Gospel message. That is, they can accept it until something maybe more appealing to them comes along. Or, they feel that they've used reason that leads them away from 'a' faith. However, there is evidently an 'unconditional' belief meaning that there's no question anymore as to who Jesus is. This is what apparently (as particular examples) happened to Peter, Thomas, and Paul.

2. This seems like it would be a sort of a no-win type situation. At times rather than using the term 'burn' and 'Hell', I would say "eternal separation from God". Punisher would then tell me that this is a new evangelical "pussified" version of Hell in order to avoid the extreme implication of eternal suffering. I'm thinking that if I chose that road instead of just saying "yes", that you may very well accuse me of 'avoiding' the strong implications of eternity in Hell. And for the record, I did 'not' answer it 'enthusiastically'.

By the way, do you know what 'cultural Christianity' is?

3. Yes and no. Yes, a cultural belief or identification in a specific religion is more likely to happen in a country where that religion is predominant. No, I don't think the chances of becoming a born again child of God are greater in some nations than others. For one thing, when Jesus walked the Earth there were very few believers right smack within the country where theoretically there should have been the most.

If you read the book of Revelation, you can kind of get an idea just within the country of Turkey on how being a true believer is not based on residency. Within Turkey, there were churches where persecution was heavy, and probably a region where Christianity was less likely to be claimed. And these regions received the highest praise from Jesus in His statements to the 7 churches. The ones that probably would have the highest level of professed (or cultural) Christianity received the greater rebuke. They probably consisted of some, or maybe many Christians who merely identified with the religion as opposed to having a walk with Christ.

But another irony is that since you are probably claiming that the U.S. and Europe would have a greater advantage being historically Christian nations; isn't it the U.S. and Europe that's supposed to have such a great decline according to a number of threads you see at this forum?

“I'll have some FSM...”

Since: Sep 10

with a side order of awesome!

#1328 Sep 8, 2013
Job wrote:
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When you ask questions, it seems that you are sort of demanding answers to be answered the way you want them to be answered. I think this type of expectation will just bring you to a lot of frustration.
First off, I would like to know from your point of view how accurate you think dating methods really are? Are you asking the question in such a way claiming that they cannot be off by a certain amount of years, or at all? The question is not whether or not science is off 499,990,000 years, but if the scientists making the claim are accurate.
Have dating calculations ever been off enough to where the scientists readjusted the suggested ages?
Yes, because it is evolution that says the earth is 4.5 billion.

You do realize it is not a singular event. ALL SCIENCES agree on a much older Earth/lifeforms/universe than 6 to 10 k years ago.

Astronomy examples.. I will give 2.

1) Light Speed... You had to know that was coming.
2) The fact we can see solar systems form and the different stages of it in the telescope.

Super Nova explosions watched across the vast distance of space taking billions of light-years to reach us.

The simple fact that we are, as Carl Sagan stated "a pale blue dot." However in the bible, the creation story really just revolves around us.

After a near eternity doing "god knows what" He decided to make us and the earth, animals oh and dinosaurs. Funny thing is, considering the vastness of space as we know it is today. He made the stars in almost an afterthought.

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

“he made the stars also,”

WTF? As if they were just little specs of light in the "firmament." Well, being ignorant mystics, that makes sense now don't it?

Also, What light made the seasons before the Sun and other stars had been created... hmmm.

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#1329 Sep 8, 2013
The truth works wrote:
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I worship God from a sitting position as I contemplate the wonderful world of science.
I am a multi-tasker!
September 8, 2013

Science is evil. it is the religion of the Atheists. you need God.

Forever and Ever
BobLoBlaah

“I'll have some FSM...”

Since: Sep 10

with a side order of awesome!

#1330 Sep 8, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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Yes, because it is evolution that says the earth is 4.5 billion.
In case you did not catch it... this was sarcasm.

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