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#1713 Apr 21, 2013
Later got to run.....friend.
downhill246

Pompano Beach, FL

#1714 Apr 21, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Mathematical trickery is not evidence. I can use math to prove the Burger King and Ronald McDonald are the same person. So what? Take an event, take any book, and apply as much math and use as many different numbers drawn from as many different sources as necessary and you can get results to prove absolutely anything you want.
Okay,using math, prove Burger King and Ronald McDonald are one and the same person. Meet me at Wendy's with the proof.

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#1717 Apr 21, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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WOW, you really need to learn something about the planet you live on.
Since the tree ring counts have reliably dated some specimens of wood all the way back to 6200 BC, one can check out the C-14 dates against the tree-ring-count dates. Admittedly, this old wood comes from trees that have been dead for hundreds of years, but you don't have to have an 8,200-year-old bristlecone pine tree alive today to validly determine that sort of date. It is easy to correlate the inner rings of a younger living tree with the outer rings of an older dead tree. The correlation is possible because, in the Southwest region of the United States, the widths of tree rings vary from year to year with the rainfall, and trees all over the Southwest have the same pattern of variations.
And that takes you back 1 to 1 1/2 half lifes... after that, it's all speculation...

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

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#1718 Apr 21, 2013
StaccatS wrote:
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I gather NDanger thinks that the radiometric reacting "Cosmic Rays", which are the precursors to creating the unstable and radioactive isotope "Carbon-14", are produced by and emanating from the Sun....
Well, ND, they are NOT!
Such facts are easy for even a fundie brain like yours to check out. even with your ID-ers.
Cosmic Rays (a scientific misnomer) are really gammas and Xrays! To create such requires the mammoth pressures, heat and explosive powers of Novas and Super Novas. In our cosmic neck of the woods of the galactic fringe, such events are eons-rare, and estimated to occur once in about every 100k-150,000 years. The last one actually happened some 1500 years ago. The one before that produced Cosmic-Rays some 150,000 years prior to the one in 500 AD. Novas and SNs are thousands and even millions of light years distant from earth, so the CRs are so spread out by the time they reach us to become of minor significance as to any meaningful flex of our % of C-14.
A pimple on the proverbial "elephant's-ass" would be an apt descript of the C-14 dating variation that Nova and SN cosmic ray surges would have.
50 years of Radiometric-Dating Progress:
We've come a long way, Baby, from 1973, when all the reputable science labs performed C-14 datings to age limits of either 35,000 years or 50,000 years (the latter required cosmic ray shielding). Today (2010), new, more accurate (to .03%) methods can establish C-14 Radiometric dates to as old as 80,000 years and 100,000 years will soon be reached!
These tidbits, most suprisingly, come from non-other than the "Young Earth", ID-er side:
Astronomer Kuiper's 1951-Predicted Comet Belt discovery; an attestment to Oort's Belt:
In 1992, astronomers detected a faint speck of light from an object about 42 AU from the sun -- the first time a Kuiper Belt object (or KBO for short) had been sighted. More than 1,300 KBOs have been identified since 1992. The Kuiper Belt extends from about 30 to 55 AU and is probably populated with hundreds of thousands of icy bodies larger than 100 km (62 miles) across, and (contains) an estimated trillion or more comets.
The objects in the Oort Cloud and in the Kuiper Belt are presumed to be remnants from the formation of the solar system about 4.6 billion years ago.
Because KBOs are so distant, their sizes are difficult to measure.... But, With infrared observations by the Spitzer Space Telescope, most of the largest KBOs are now known!
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.c...
Also, the ID-ers said this (an "old earth" admission!):
"Any young-earth theory must also explain (validated) evidence that seems to indicate that the earth is millions of years old...." - Prominent ID Advocate "Slusher"
Then the ID-ers treated us to things like this (thinking that such would not be proven!):
"A 4.5 billion year old universe requires at least several hundred million comets existing away from the sun have been diverted into the solar system. If such a source of comets exists, observations are consistent with an old solar system." - Bob Bales ('89) prominent ID-er.
AMAZING! That honest ID concession from Mr. Bob Bates of ID fame bears repeating:
>"If such a source of comets exists, observations are consistent with an old solar system."
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.c...
Also from the same honest ID advocate, Bob Bales:
"The amount of sediment in the ocean is about twice the mass of the continents above sea level, it could have been produced in (as little an amount of time as) 30 million years ...(as well as) 4.5 billion years."
So there we have Bob Bales admitting flat out to the reality of a 30-M year-old Earth!
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/debate-age-of...
StaccatS
Gamma rays come from our sun too.
http://today.slac.stanford.edu/feature/gammar...

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

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#1719 Apr 21, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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And that takes you back 1 to 1 1/2 half lifes... after that, it's all speculation...
It's not speculation.

tellurium has the half life of 790 quintillion years.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

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#1720 Apr 21, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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And that takes you back 1 to 1 1/2 half lifes... after that, it's all speculation...
If I should ever be caught of a crime I want you on the jury.

Most every thing is speculation to you. AKA reasonable doubt I walk free.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

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#1722 Apr 21, 2013
StaccatS wrote:
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Thanx for the info, Jammer! You are right on!
StaccatS
You're welcome, Glad I could add some info.

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#1723 Apr 21, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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2 women were having dinner when one asks the other,'Do you smoke after sex?' The other replies,'I don't know, I never looked'...
LMAO!
Thinking

Wallington, UK

#1724 Apr 21, 2013
OK... so how many years do of progress do you believe christianity has cost us?
NDanger wrote:
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Centuries? prove it

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

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#1725 Apr 21, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Taking into account is one thing, but that is more like guessing, isn't it?
With .0000765% carbon in the atmosphere and the half life being in the neighborhood of 5,730, how would one account for accuracy beyond 40k yrs?
Guessing, sure...in the same way that a calendar is just a guess about the date, or a clock is just a guess about the time.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

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#1726 Apr 21, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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Okay,using math, prove Burger King and Ronald McDonald are one and the same person. Meet me at Wendy's with the proof.
What difference would it make? It would just be bullshit. Just like the math trick that "proves" a prophecy about Israel being formed in 1947.

By the way...is 1.10 greater than, less than, or equal to 1.1? I'm told by another Christian fundamentalist that this is very important regarding this post-hoc prophecy fulfillment.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

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#1727 Apr 21, 2013
downhill246 wrote:
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If you did it would b amazing and you deserve to win, if you did not you would be one of the top three contenders for the yearly Darwin Awards.
Sure. And the JREF would be legally liable, no matter the waivers involved. Also, you're a retard.

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#1728 Apr 21, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Guessing, sure...in the same way that a calendar is just a guess about the date, or a clock is just a guess about the time.
A clock is a guess about the time? LMAO!

Time is an arbitrary dimension. It's a tool used to measure durations of events and the intervals between them. It was created by Man, meaning it doesn't really exist.

Since Man created the concept, then Man can determine how many hours are in a day, etc.

But as for guessing about time, tell me this: how did the NASA scientists predict exactly where the moon was going to be in the time it would take a rocket to travel to that point?

If a clock is just a guess at time then NASA wouldn't have pinpointed the location of the moon with such great accuracy.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1729 Apr 21, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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What difference would it make? It would just be bullshit. Just like the math trick that "proves" a prophecy about Israel being formed in 1947.
By the way...is 1.10 greater than, less than, or equal to 1.1? I'm told by another Christian fundamentalist that this is very important regarding this post-hoc prophecy fulfillment.
Last time I checked they were the same and I guess you aren't bringing your proof to Wendys.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1730 Apr 21, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Sure. And the JREF would be legally liable, no matter the waivers involved. Also, you're a retard.
Than he shouldn't make challenges he isn't willing to accept.

A retard?

How lowell can you go, guy?
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#1731 Apr 21, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Guessing, sure...in the same way that a calendar is just a guess about the date, or a clock is just a guess about the time.
Is that what you tell people when you show up late?

"I would have been here sooner but I guessed wrong."

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

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#1732 Apr 21, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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If I should ever be caught of a crime I want you on the jury.
Most every thing is speculation to you. AKA reasonable doubt I walk free.
half life of 790 quintillion years? That sounds about as accurate as 10 half lifes of carbon dating

Beyond reasonable doubt...

NDanger

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Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#1733 Apr 21, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Guessing, sure...in the same way that a calendar is just a guess about the date, or a clock is just a guess about the time.
Actually, time and calendar are concrete and can be meted out accurately...

Once you start assuming...all bets are off...

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

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#1734 Apr 22, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Actually, time and calendar are concrete and can be meted out accurately...
Once you start assuming...all bets are off...
Then why do we have to have leap second to clocks every so often?

I'll save you the time. Earth's slowing rotation.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

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#1735 Apr 22, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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half life of 790 quintillion years? That sounds about as accurate as 10 half lifes of carbon dating
Beyond reasonable doubt...
Defense lawyers would love you on their jury.

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