"I’m saying GOD doesn’t exist!"

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#399 Apr 5, 2013
Jeff, please answer the question.

If you weren't religious, would you be raping, killing, and stealing?

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#400 Apr 5, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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God has always existed so He never "came about".
really?.... the source of your info?... did it come from your sphincter?....

at least science can prove matter/energy can not be created and/or destroyed... all you can do is babble and speculate with your opinions... trying using the scientific method to prove something...

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#401 Apr 5, 2013
one way wrote:
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What you call religious beliefs, is factual reality. And I worship the Almighty whom rightly tortures the wicked for the same reason that we honor the righteous over the wicked and we punish the wicked with court sentences for their crimes and throw them into prison to stop them from harming other innocent citizens. Do you actually think that you can lie, cheat and steal, and hurt others with zero consequences? God is always watching, and be sure that no one will escape his perfect judgment.
yeah, bend over m0r0n...take your teeth out and give your god a good BJ...

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

UK

#402 Apr 5, 2013
LGK wrote:
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For science to do any & all of the above, it needs laws. My question is how did the laws come about & how can you use science to investigate that before the laws come into existence? A lecture on scientific theories however well done is irrelevant. Where did the laws come from is what you need to answer. I know of course that you haven't got an answer but if you believe you have be my guest.
"Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why."

http://notjustatheory.com/
LGK wrote:
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I'm not sure what you mean by peer pressure or what kind of evidence you say Bible writers lacked. If its scientific evidence you refer to, it's totally irrelevant. I quoted from Psalms which is poetry plus sayings & Romans which is doctrine; both are outside the scope of science.
"Peer pressure is influence that a peer group or individual exerts that encourages others to change their attitudes, values, or behaviors to conform to group norms. Social groups affected membership groups, in which individuals are "formally" members (such as political parties and trade unions), or social cliques in which membership is not clearly defined. A person affected by peer pressure may or may not want to belong to these groups."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_pressure

If they had evidence for the deity of the bible they would not have needed to resort to peer-pressure (in the form of insults) would they?
LGK wrote:
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I think your problem is scientism which I'm afraid really is foolishness. If you want me to explain I will be more than happy to.
LGK wrote:
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By the way, you too have a doctrine or doctrines one being scientism
After checking on the definition of scientism I fail to see how it relates to my comments. I merely pointed out the obvious (to me) peer-pressure in the verses you quoted and a possible reason for the biblical writers taking such an approach.
LGK - sock puppets

Mitcham, UK

#403 Apr 5, 2013
Too many sock puppets

Since: Jul 12

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#404 Apr 5, 2013
Mr Mxyzptlk wrote:
"I’m saying God doesn’t exist.
God called you a fool.

Psalm 14:1 (NKJV)
1 The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."
Reality

San Diego, CA

#405 Apr 5, 2013
one way wrote:
<quoted text>I worship the Almighty whom rightly tortures the wicked for the same reason that we honor the righteous over the wicked
You better read your bible better and tell it like it is..

Your so-called god of love protects the wicked and tortures people that are victims of the wicked..One case would be Cain murdering his innocent brother Able out of jealousy and your corrupt god protecting him from justice..To make matters worse, your god threatened harm to the innocent friends and family of Able if they sought justice for Cain murdering their loved one..Nice huh?

Try to imagine someone murdering one of your loved ones and have law enforcement protect the murder from justice..Only then would you know how corrupt your bible god is....
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#406 Apr 5, 2013
Reality wrote:
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Isn't enjoying your life and getting fulfillment out of helping those less fortunate enough purpose for you? By the way, science is zeroing in on how life started on earth, stay tuned..
Excerpt:
The mystery of how living organisms sprung out of lifeless rock has long puzzled scientists, but we think that the unusual phosphorus chemicals we found could be a precursor to the batteries that now power all life on Earth. But the fact that it developed simply, in conditions similar to the early Earth, suggests this could be the missing link between geology and biology," said Dr Terry Kee, from the University's School of Chemistry, who led the research.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/...
Enjoying life and ultimate meaning for life are 2 different issues. I'm looking forward to see how science attempts to explain the origin of life without an outside intelligence involved. If it does we will be asked to believe the impossible.
LGK

Mitcham, UK

#407 Apr 5, 2013
Roland_Deschain wrote:
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"Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why."
http://notjustatheory.com/
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"Peer pressure is influence that a peer group or individual exerts that encourages others to change their attitudes, values, or behaviors to conform to group norms. Social groups affected membership groups, in which individuals are "formally" members (such as political parties and trade unions), or social cliques in which membership is not clearly defined. A person affected by peer pressure may or may not want to belong to these groups."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_pressure
If they had evidence for the deity of the bible they would not have needed to resort to peer-pressure (in the form of insults) would they?
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After checking on the definition of scientism I fail to see how it relates to my comments. I merely pointed out the obvious (to me) peer-pressure in the verses you quoted and a possible reason for the biblical writers taking such an approach.
You still haven't explained the origin of natural laws. Yes they describe things, but why are there laws in the 1st place?

The Bible verses eg Romans, make statements that are either true or false. This is separate from whether they make one feel pressured or otherwise. May I ask why you feel pressured? Also, what kind of evidence for God did you look for in the Bible & failed to find and, if there is evidence in the Bible would you accept it? This question screens out emotional from intellectual objections to God's existence.

Your adherence to scientism is betrayed by your faith in science's ability to explain the origin of the very laws on which it depends. And the question still stands: Please explain how the laws arose & why they exist, it is not an explanation to just describe the idea of laws or theories. I hope you understand the question.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#408 Apr 5, 2013
Big Al wrote:
"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing, all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." --- Gene Roddenberry
How low will you go. Is Gene your guru for wisdom?
LGK

Mitcham, UK

#409 Apr 5, 2013
angelfromhell1 wrote:
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really?.... the source of your info?... did it come from your sphincter?....
at least science can prove matter/energy can not be created and/or destroyed... all you can do is babble and speculate with your opinions... trying using the scientific method to prove something...
What are the scientific experiments that show that matter or energy cannot be created? Atheist Bertrand Russell said that because science relies on induction, it can't prove anything. Do you think he was wrong?
LGK

Mitcham, UK

#410 Apr 5, 2013
Big Al wrote:
"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing, all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." --- Gene Roddenberry
Surely an all-knowing, all-powerful God can create faulty or none faulty humans. If He can't do this then He is neither all-knowing nor all-powerful. Think about it for a second, it's obvious.

Since: Apr 13

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#411 Apr 5, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Enjoying life and ultimate meaning for life are 2 different issues. I'm looking forward to see how science attempts to explain the origin of life without an outside intelligence involved. If it does we will be asked to believe the impossible.
you mistake ignorance for the impossible...this explains it 20 years ago and newer information has updated some of it since then...you are still stuck on stupid with your talking donkeys and snakes, and jewish zombie gods nailed to a piece of wood...

http://www.see.org/garcia/e-ct-1.htm
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#412 Apr 5, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Krauss. And, he goes by "Lawrence." That you can't respect the man enough to use the name he uses and spell his surname properly demonstrates the level of respect you have for people with whom you disagree.
How do you respect someone who in the name of science tells me that nothing can create something? Get serious.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#413 Apr 5, 2013
angelfromhell1 wrote:
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you mistake ignorance for the impossible...this explains it 20 years ago and newer information has updated some of it since then...you are still stuck on stupid with your talking donkeys and snakes, and jewish zombie gods nailed to a piece of wood...
http://www.see.org/garcia/e-ct-1.htm
And your stuck stupid in your atheism.

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#414 Apr 5, 2013
LGK wrote:
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What are the scientific experiments that show that matter or energy cannot be created? Atheist Bertrand Russell said that because science relies on induction, it can't prove anything. Do you think he was wrong?
History

An early version of the Law of Conservation of Mass was stated by Roman poet Lucretius, who said, "Things cannot be born from nothing." Although Lucretius was expressing a philosophical idea and not necessarily a physics concept, he laid a foundation for future scientists to build upon. The Law of Conservation of Mass was first stated as a physical theory by Russian scientist Mikhail Lomonosov in 1748. This theory was later reiterated and confirmed by French scientist Antoine Lavoisier in 1789. Lavoisier verified his theory in practice by carrying out a number of carefully measured experiments in which he reacted tin and lead with oxygen.

Read more: About the Law of Conservation of Mass | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_4568411_law-conserv...

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#415 Apr 5, 2013
LGK wrote:
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Surely an all-knowing, all-powerful God can create faulty or none faulty humans. If He can't do this then He is neither all-knowing nor all-powerful. Think about it for a second, it's obvious.
I've thought about it and commented on it several times.

Your 'My God can do whatever he wants' is nothing but a cheap cop-out.
You define God in a certain way but cannot provide evidence for your claim so it must be dismissed.
LGK

Mitcham, UK

#416 Apr 5, 2013
angelfromhell1 wrote:
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you mistake ignorance for the impossible...this explains it 20 years ago and newer information has updated some of it since then...you are still stuck on stupid with your talking donkeys and snakes, and jewish zombie gods nailed to a piece of wood...
http://www.see.org/garcia/e-ct-1.htm
Naturalistic origin of life is impossible because it violates natural law. No amount of newer & newer information will make the impossible possible. I am stuck on talking donkeys and snakes, and a Jewish man nailed to a cross because this really happened.

Since: Apr 13

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#417 Apr 5, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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And your stuck stupid in your atheism.
stupa$$, you are just as much an atheist as me.... just a different god.....there are 3000+ gods, and you think you have stumbled on the one and only.... bwhahahahahahahhahahahahahh... ..M0R0N...

scientific method doesn't rely on beliefs and opinions... but what you can demonstrate and prove..... so far, you have demonstrated jack $hit...

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#418 Apr 5, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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How do you respect someone who in the name of science tells me that nothing can create something? Get serious.
Create is a loaded word. Matter and anti-matter have been observed in laboratory experiments. Aside from the apparent imbalance of matter and anti-matter in the known universe, it is possible that the sum total of the universe still adds up to nothing.

By the way, who, in the name of science tells you nothing can 'create' something?

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