Clergy Blessing war
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Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jul 2, 2013
Take for example in world war ii the roman catholic clergy would bless the american troops as they would go off to kill the German troops and the German Catholic Clergy would bless the German Catholic troops as they went off to kill the american troops and this happened with the protestants also.

Is this the mark of true Christians ?

John 13:35
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.

Mark 12:31
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
31 The second is this,‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other
Thinking

Lymington, UK

#2 Jul 2, 2013
Gas chambers were manned primarily by German christians.
What was the value add of their faith?
Johnny Trunk wrote:
Take for example in world war ii the roman catholic clergy would bless the american troops as they would go off to kill the German troops and the German Catholic Clergy would bless the German Catholic troops as they went off to kill the american troops and this happened with the protestants also.
Is this the mark of true Christians ?
John 13:35
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.
Mark 12:31
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
31 The second is this,‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Jul 2, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Gas chambers were manned primarily by German christians.
What was the value add of their faith?
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John>>

Good question were they true Christians just look at what Christ taught.

Mark 12:31
Expanded Bible (EXB)
31 The second command is this:‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself’

Just what did the blind guides the clergy teach them?

Matthew 15:14
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Thinking

Lymington, UK

#4 Jul 2, 2013
Do christians actually exist, then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
Good question were they true Christians just look at what Christ taught.
Mark 12:31
Expanded Bible (EXB)
31 The second command is this:‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself’
Just what did the blind guides the clergy teach them?
Matthew 15:14
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Jul 3, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Do christians actually exist, then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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John>>

Yes Christians exist,I am one of Jehovah`s Witnesses and we have nothing to do with war we are a peaceful people.

Isaiah 2:2-4
Darby Translation (DARBY)
2 And it shall come to pass in the end of days,[that] the mountain of Jehovah's house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills; and all the nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many peoples shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and Jehovah's word from Jerusalem.

4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall reprove many peoples; and they shall forge their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning-knives: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Thinking

Lymington, UK

#6 Jul 3, 2013
JWs were terribly treated by German christians in the war, placed in camps and required to wear purple triangles.

So roughly how many of the oft quoted 2bn+ christians are really christians according to your beliefs?
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
Yes Christians exist,I am one of Jehovah`s Witnesses and we have nothing to do with war we are a peaceful people.
Isaiah 2:2-4
Darby Translation (DARBY)
2 And it shall come to pass in the end of days,[that] the mountain of Jehovah's house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be lifted up above the hills; and all the nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many peoples shall go and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law, and Jehovah's word from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall reprove many peoples; and they shall forge their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruning-knives: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Jul 3, 2013
Thinking wrote:
JWs were terribly treated by German christians in the war, placed in camps and required to wear purple triangles.
So roughly how many of the oft quoted 2bn+ christians are really christians according to your beliefs?
<quoted text>
John>>

according to Jehovah`s Witnesses beliefs only Jehovah`s Witnesses are true Christians.

“My name is Trunks...”

Since: Jun 10

the alternate future

#9 Jul 3, 2013
Every religious order seems to believe that. May I ask why you believe such a thing? Why not stand in unity with other religious believers? You all believe in the same thing, should that not unite rather than divide you? I only ask because I am curious and I am one who at this time is not certain where he stands when it comes to belief.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jul 3, 2013
Lelouch0 wrote:
Every religious order seems to believe that. May I ask why you believe such a thing? Why not stand in unity with other religious believers? You all believe in the same thing, should that not unite rather than divide you? I only ask because I am curious and I am one who at this time is not certain where he stands when it comes to belief.
John>>
Just look at all the trouble all the other religions have because of their being mixed up with the world and their governments Jehovah`s Witnesses are no part of this world Just like Christ was no part of this world.

(John 15:19) 19&#8239;If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.

(John 18:36).&#8239;.&#8239; .Jesus answered:“My kingdom is no part of this world.&#8239;.&#8239;.

Jehovah`s Witnesses don`t get mixed up in the wars of this world
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#11 Jul 3, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
Take for example in world war ii the roman catholic clergy would bless the american troops as they would go off to kill the German troops and the German Catholic Clergy would bless the German Catholic troops as they went off to kill the american troops and this happened with the protestants also.
Is this the mark of true Christians ?
John 13:35
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.
Mark 12:31
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
31 The second is this,‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other
None of this matters if you do not obey the first commandment.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#12 Jul 3, 2013
Johnny Trunk,

Do you obey the first commandment.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Jul 3, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
Johnny Trunk,
Do you obey the first commandment.
John>>

Exodus 20:1-3
Darby Translation (DARBY)
20 And God spoke all these words, saying,

2 I am Jehovah thy God, who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Yes, I obey this commandment
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#14 Jul 3, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
Exodus 20:1-3
Darby Translation (DARBY)
20 And God spoke all these words, saying,
2 I am Jehovah thy God, who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Yes, I obey this commandment
lol

And you claimed to be a disciple of Jesus. This right here is undeniable proof of what I said about you.

You are not a disciple of Jesus.

The first commandment is in the Book of Luke.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Jul 4, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
lol
And you claimed to be a disciple of Jesus. This right here is undeniable proof of what I said about you.
You are not a disciple of Jesus.
The first commandment is in the Book of Luke.
John>>

I say its in the Book of Mark.

Mark 12:29-30
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
29 Jesus answered,“The first is,‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one; 30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#16 Jul 4, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
I say its in the Book of Mark.
Mark 12:29-30
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
29 Jesus answered,“The first is,‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one; 30 and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’
It does not matter what book it is in...It was not aware in your heart.
That is the bottom line.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#17 Jul 4, 2013
And the undeniable proof that you are not his disciple in Spirit and Truth.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#18 Jul 4, 2013
Why yes you are like all the others...his disciple in word only...
But not in deed.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#19 Jul 4, 2013
You like to hide behind the verses of the bible...here, camouflage yourself in this one.

lol

lol

lol
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#20 Jul 4, 2013
Matthew, Chapter 15, 8: This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Jul 4, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
And the undeniable proof that you are not his disciple in Spirit and Truth.
John>>

Who are you to Judge me?

Matthew 7:1-5
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother,‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

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