"Was Noah's Flood For Real??

"Was Noah's Flood For Real??

Created by ThePreacherman01 on Aug 3, 2013

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“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#1 Aug 3, 2013
Yes it was for real, the Bible say so. The Bible is God's Words and we all know God don't tell lies. The Bible is the Book of truth and no one on this earth can prove otherwise, "FACT"....

dollarsbill

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#2 Aug 3, 2013
Absolutely!
Matthew 24:37-39 (NKJV)
37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.

“Repent and worship God”

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#3 Aug 3, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Yes it was for real, the Bible say so. The Bible is God's Words and we all know God don't tell lies. The Bible is the Book of truth and no one on this earth can prove otherwise, "FACT"....
I believe it occurred, but I don't think it was a world wide flood.

dollarsbill

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#4 Aug 3, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I believe it occurred, but I don't think it was a world wide flood.
Genesis 7:19-23 (NKJV)
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died. 23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive.

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#5 Aug 3, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I believe it occurred, but I don't think it was a world wide flood.
Where is your proof please?

“Repent and worship God”

Since: Jul 13

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#6 Aug 3, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>Where is your proof please?
The Bible

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#7 Aug 3, 2013
2 Peter 2:4-6 (NKJV)
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

“Repent and worship God”

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#10 Aug 3, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Then you do not believe it occurred and you do not believe God.

God said that it was a worldwide flood to kill all living that walked the earth, sep for that which was in the Ark.

This is basic Genesis 101.

Genesis 6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

Genesis 7: 4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.
1 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
Have you looked up the scriptures in Hebrew? If so, then it wasn't a world wide flood.

“Repent and worship God”

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#11 Aug 3, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Then you do not believe it occurred and you do not believe God.

God said that it was a worldwide flood to kill all living that walked the earth, sep for that which was in the Ark.

This is basic Genesis 101.

Genesis 6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.

18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.

Genesis 7: 4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

5 And Noah did according unto all that the Lord commanded him.
1 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
The word "earth" used in these passages of Genesis is the Hebrew word "erets" (Strong's O.T.#776). Erets does not actually carry any connotation of a global, spherical planet in its translation.

While it has been translated as "earth" many times, it is also translated "country" 140 times, "land" 1,476 times, and "ground" 96 times in the Old Testament.

In the various references to erets it can be shown it is most often used to infer a limited land area rather than the entire planet.

The people living at the time of Moses had no concept of our global planet as we do today.

The earth or erets to them would have been the extent of the geographical land area that they knew existed.

It thus would not mean the planet, and to apply this literal meaning throughout the Bible causes some real and obvious problems.

For example, when Cain was cursed by God, he was driven "from the face of the earth" (Gen. 4:14).

Yet it is clear that he remained "in the earth" as a fugitive. Cain was driven out of a limited land area, not from the planet.

After God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah one of Lot's daughters stated, "there is not a man in the earth (erets) to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth (erets)" (Gen. 19:31).

She could not have meant that there were no men anywhere on planet earth for we know that there obviously were. Rather, she was saying that "there is not a man in erets" or in the land area they were in (the area of Sodom) for they were all destroyed there.

When God had told Abraham, "Get thee out of thy country (erets)... unto a land (erets) that I will show thee" (Gen. 12:1), He did not mean for Abraham to leave the earth and go to another earth or planet.

The word 'erets' was referring to a limited land area just as it was in Genesis 7:10—"the waters of the flood were upon the erets" or upon the land.

http://www.orange-street-church.org/text/noah...

dollarsbill

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#12 Aug 3, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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Have you looked up the scriptures in Hebrew? If so, then it wasn't a world wide flood.
You know more about Hebrew than our MANY translators? Nah.

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Since: Jul 13

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#13 Aug 3, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>You know more about Hebrew than our MANY translators? Nah.
I don't know it, but I believe that a lot is lost in translations.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#14 Aug 3, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I don't know it, but I believe that a lot is lost in translations.
You believe? Why?

dollarsbill

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#16 Aug 3, 2013
Hardie-Har-Har wrote:
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>>> The whole idea was to rid the earth of all the wicked people.... Did it work? NO!,
Yeah it did, at that time.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#18 Aug 3, 2013
Hardie-Har-Har wrote:
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Harr-Harr!,...
Not by a long shot there, Moneybags! Yo biblegod was short-sided!
Noah was a real old sot,... a fall-down-and-be-pukey DRUNKARD!
He also was IMMORAL,... not qualming over lyin' naked to his kids!
His kids,...
Ham (9-inch boned-up, and Canaan of "I wanna f*ckya Daddy" fame,
were incest-guilties, about screwing/stealing the family jewels!
YHWH's flood turned out to be a total flop in accomplishing what the bible says was its purpose,... i.e., to destroy all the evil and wickedness!...
Sh1t!,.. within 100-or-so years, the wicked "BABYLON" myths began!
Wickedness, upon wickedness grew exponentially until today's globally entrenched and all-pervasive wickedness spits in god's eye!
Some "Divine Plan" you bible-thumpin' idiots have given your life to!(???)
INDEED!!,... Some plan, Moneybags!
Hardie-Har-Har!
How will you get out of Hell???? Answer: You won't, NEVER!

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#19 Aug 3, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Yes it was for real, the Bible say so. The Bible is God's Words and we all know God don't tell lies. The Bible is the Book of truth and no one on this earth can prove otherwise, "FACT"....
Stupid fundie games number 134 (subpart C):

I almost finished the fifth grade so explain everything there is to know about evolution in terms I will understand.

(grammatical errors omitted for clarity)

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#20 Aug 3, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I don't know it, but I believe that a lot is lost in translations.
Of course it is. Besides that, it's a religious text so people have been monkeying with it for twenty-five hundred years.

Heck, the Catholics added 1 John 5:7 to the Bible in the sixth century and didn't take it back out until Vatican II. The fundies swear Jesus Christ Himself wrote that passage.

God bless you.

dollarsbill

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#21 Aug 3, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Stupid fundie games number 134 (subpart C):
I almost finished the fifth grade so explain everything there is to know about evolution in terms I will understand.
(grammatical errors omitted for clarity)
How will you get out of Hell???? Answer: You won't, NEVER!
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#22 Aug 3, 2013
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I believe it occurred, but I don't think it was a world wide flood.
You must consider context. In the context it makes far more sense for the flood to have been worldwide.

1. "Under the whole heaven" makes it clear that it was more than just local. The whole heaven is all of the sky. The sky didn't just cover that area!

2. It mentions that all the animals including the fouls of the air died. Why would all of the birds have died if they could simply have flow a few miles to dry land?

3. There is no way the water could have stayed in just that area because that particular area is open to the south toward the sea. To have been local would have meant that God would have had to supernaturally hold the water in so it couldn't subside and flow to the sea too quickly. There is no indication or reason for Him to have done so.

4. If it was only local, then why the need for an ark? Noah and his family could simply have migrated elsewhere to avoid it!

5. The verses go too far in making it clear that ALL life died. Read Gen. 7:21-23. Why so much specificity in what was killed if it was just the relatively few animals in that area?

6. Why would any of the birds Noah sent out have returned to the ark if all they had to do was fly to the unaffected area to find land/food?

7. Why did God say He would never again destroy the world with flood if it was only local. Local floods happen all the time, which would make God a liar if that was His intent.

To say the flood was local is to ignore the reality of all of this in favor of some secular version of it that cannot work!

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#23 Aug 3, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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You must consider context.
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To say the flood was local is to ignore the reality of all of this in favor of some secular version of it that cannot work!
Context, you say? The context is it never happened. Given that fact, you are now free to search out the underlying theology. You do care about the theology of the Bible. Don't you?

God bless you

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#24 Aug 3, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>Where is your proof please?
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/12/12/arc...

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