Does religion have a purpose in society?

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#186 Nov 19, 2012
mztza wrote:
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then who wrote the 10 commandments on the tablet of stone MOSES
GOD wrote that with his finger GOD is GOD
not a man
man doesn't have that kind of wisdom, man would never say forgive who has done you harm
but, GOD says to forgive
produce the 'stone tablets'..

oh, you cant find em? why not?

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#187 Nov 19, 2012
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>produce the 'stone tablets'..
oh, you cant find em? why not?
Cuz Moses had anger issues and broke the evidence and he had to go and chisel another set. Of course the second set went poof too along with the arc. Funny how evidence seems to always go poof when it comes to the bible.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#188 Nov 19, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Cuz Moses had anger issues and broke the evidence and he had to go and chisel another set. Of course the second set went poof too along with the arc. Funny how evidence seems to always go poof when it comes to the bible.
Dont ya just love those stories.. reminds me of gilligan's island!

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#189 Nov 19, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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That's because the spectral range of human eyes is quite limited and the temperature extremes humans can tolerate is quite limited.
Let's just say I see things in a different light.
(You already know that, right?)
God bless you.
I DO!!!:-P
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#190 Nov 19, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Cuz Moses had anger issues and broke the evidence and he had to go and chisel another set. Of course the second set went poof too along with the arc. Funny how evidence seems to always go poof when it comes to the bible.
Its even funnier that there is no proof for what you believe.

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#191 Nov 19, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Cuz Moses had anger issues and broke the evidence and he had to go and chisel another set. Of course the second set went poof too along with the arc. Funny how evidence seems to always go poof when it comes to the bible.
Funny how after 3000+ years, they are still around...unlike you that will go "poof"in the night...

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#192 Nov 19, 2012
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>Dont ya just love those stories.. reminds me of gilligan's island!
Coming from Arnold...er trough the pig...how touching

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#193 Nov 19, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Funny how after 3000+ years, they are still around...unlike you that will go "poof"in the night...
Speak for yourself, nutzo.
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#194 Nov 20, 2012
Jeff wrote:
Does atheism have any purpose in society?
No, and how could it? There's no doctorine or belief system that leads atheists. It is the simple position of no belief in a god or gods.
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#195 Nov 20, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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We already know the positive impact that Christianity has had over the centuries with establishing large charities, education of the poor and the common man and science. Now its the atheist and those that have made up beliefs to step up to plate and tell us what their purpose is and how have they made societies better.
I don't think anyone can argue that in recent times, Christianity has been beneficial in some areas of modern society, but it does not negate the evils it has done in society.

My question to you is, what was the religion of your ancestors 7 - 900 years ago? Were they Christian? Were they Muslim? Were they Jewish? You likely don't know, but I will guarantee, that many of today's Christians are a product of the crusades. In other words, you had better believe in Christ, or die!

If religion was truly a choice, you would find many more Muslims in north America, and many more Christians in the east, and a hell of allot more atheists around the globe. And why do so many Christians disown family when they make the choice not to believe? Could it be a form of indoctrination? Either you are with us in heaven or with Satan in hell? What a good moral lesson coming from the moral authority that is, Christianity.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#196 Nov 20, 2012
Cujo wrote:
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I don't think anyone can argue that in recent times, Christianity has been beneficial in some areas of modern society, but it does not negate the evils it has done in society.
My question to you is, what was the religion of your ancestors 7 - 900 years ago? Were they Christian? Were they Muslim? Were they Jewish? You likely don't know, but I will guarantee, that many of today's Christians are a product of the crusades. In other words, you had better believe in Christ, or die!
If religion was truly a choice, you would find many more Muslims in north America, and many more Christians in the east, and a hell of allot more atheists around the globe. And why do so many Christians disown family when they make the choice not to believe? Could it be a form of indoctrination? Either you are with us in heaven or with Satan in hell? What a good moral lesson coming from the moral authority that is, Christianity.
Very interesting points!
I have known a couple of families that disowned someone for marrying outside the faith for sure.
I don't know all of my family 'tree' but I do know my mother's side and they came to the U.S. from Great Britain but originated in France.
On my father's side, all English.
So, I figure some of my ancestors either witnessed a burning at the stake or knew of them. Just that alone gives me the willies.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#197 Nov 20, 2012
Cujo wrote:
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I don't think anyone can argue that in recent times, Christianity has been beneficial in some areas of modern society, but it does not negate the evils it has done in society.
My question to you is, what was the religion of your ancestors 7 - 900 years ago? Were they Christian? Were they Muslim? Were they Jewish? You likely don't know, but I will guarantee, that many of today's Christians are a product of the crusades. In other words, you had better believe in Christ, or die!
If religion was truly a choice, you would find many more Muslims in north America, and many more Christians in the east, and a hell of allot more atheists around the globe. And why do so many Christians disown family when they make the choice not to believe? Could it be a form of indoctrination? Either you are with us in heaven or with Satan in hell? What a good moral lesson coming from the moral authority that is, Christianity.
The evil done in the name of Christ is an abuse of the teachings of Christ. Depends what part of the world a person lived 7-900 years ago. Christians of today don't trace their heritage to the crusades. Do you know what the crusades were about?
People may identify with a religion but that does not mean they are "true" believers. Most people are culturally religious.
Don't know that much about "why so many Christians disown family when they make the choice not to believe". Do you have some studies on this?
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#198 Nov 20, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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The evil done in the name of Christ is an abuse of the teachings of Christ. Depends what part of the world a person lived 7-900 years ago. Christians of today don't trace their heritage to the crusades. Do you know what the crusades were about?
People may identify with a religion but that does not mean they are "true" believers. Most people are culturally religious.
Don't know that much about "why so many Christians disown family when they make the choice not to believe". Do you have some studies on this?
Who cares about the reason for the crusades. The fact is if you weren't a Christian, or believe in Jesus, it was blasphemy, and they would kill you, and that's what people knew.

If this was going on today, I would definitly tell people I am Christian, to avoid death, and I would raise my children as christian, so they too could escape death. I would indoctrinate the sh*t out of them.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#199 Nov 20, 2012
Cujo wrote:
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Who cares about the reason for the crusades. The fact is if you weren't a Christian, or believe in Jesus, it was blasphemy, and they would kill you, and that's what people knew.
If this was going on today, I would definitly tell people I am Christian, to avoid death, and I would raise my children as christian, so they too could escape death. I would indoctrinate the sh*t out of them.
Until you understand the crusades and why they happened your point is moot. In that period of time there was a much closer relationship between politics and religion. Christ would never have approved of it.
mztza

Mesa, AZ

#200 Nov 20, 2012
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>produce the 'stone tablets'..
oh, you cant find em? why not?
in GODS own timing
besides, even if you would see it
YOU still, will refuse to believe
one day we will know the whole truth, i hope it won't be too late for some
so if you believe that GOD and JESUS are hoaxes
you don't have anything to worry about RIGHT


Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#201 Nov 21, 2012
mztza wrote:
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i'm truly sorry you feel that sorry
but regardless of what we have or don't have
we have the love of family and most of all, GOD is our hero
i've known families with what little they have, helps others
by sharing, food, clothing, most of all friendship, understanding, and trust
i'm sure not all would do that
there are plenty who are not christians who abuse the systems so don't judge all christians, because we don't know the true circumstances of their predicament
i've known alot of families, lost their jobs, have been in an accident, and life threaten illnesses, no insurance for children who have illnesses or born with illnesses
if you truly want to know, work with this families, then you'll know
we also work with orphanages, would you like to help
make a difference
I make a difference daily in donations and time. Your assumption that people who are not christian are not compassionate is totally off base. To even think such a thing, you must live a sequestered life of NOT interacting with those not of your faith. How sad and sick, when Christ demanded you love your neighbor and said that meant every person.

If you truly don't believe the rich has robbed Americans of their dreams and the republicans are destroying the middle class at the federal and state level, then you need to change to a church that lets you read the news of your choice.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#205 Nov 21, 2012
mztza wrote:
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in GODS own timing
besides, even if you would see it
YOU still, will refuse to believe
one day we will know the whole truth, i hope it won't be too late for some
so if you believe that GOD and JESUS are hoaxes
you don't have anything to worry about RIGHT
You certainly make a lot of assumptions here about Troth, and most likely, you do about many other posters as well.
Troth has never revealed his beliefs to you, and I believe he never will.
His beliefs are none of your business, and it is none of your business to try to tell him he is wrong based solely on your own beliefs.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#206 Nov 21, 2012
MRSMURPHY wrote:
mztza wrote:
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i'm truly sorry you feel that sorry
but regardless of what we have or don't have
we have the love of family and most of all, GOD is our hero
i've known families with what little they have, helps others
by sharing, food, clothing, most of all friendship, understanding, and trust
i'm sure not all would do that
there are plenty who are not christians who abuse the systems so don't judge all christians, because we don't know the true circumstances of their predicament
i've known alot of families, lost their jobs, have been in an accident, and life threaten illnesses, no insurance for children who have illnesses or born with illnesses
if you truly want to know, work with this families, then you'll know
we also work with orphanages, would you like to help
make a difference.........." I am not a christian, yet I volunteer at a Methodist clothing store, because the good woman of the congregation will not give their time... I , along with my children have volunteered at St. Augustines catholic church every Thanksgiving Day, helping to feed those less fortunate... My crochet group makes and gives away, hat scarves and gloves to the children of our community.. I also make blankets for the kids in temerary foster care, I buy and give away blankets and meals to the homeless. One does not have to be a so called christian to know it is our duty to care for the less fortunate in a kindly not condescending way.. and to eat they do not have to listen to christian rhetoric.
Too many Christians feel that only they do these things.
:)
I know for a fact that the family, from grandfather down to his grandchildren, who have done the most of my small hometown, is a Jewish family. Business folks yes, yet they give back to the community in so many ways.
Including outreach centers where any in need can go and leave with clothing, food, even a free medical checkup and care.
There are folks from all the faiths or none who volunteer there and also in many other areas regarding the welfare of the public round here also.
Bless you, MRSMURPHY, although I believe you are already.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#209 Nov 21, 2012
NDanger wrote:
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Funny how after 3000+ years, they are still around...unlike you that will go "poof"in the night...
We're all going to go poof in the night so we should make the best of what we've got because we really don't know what else there is.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#210 Nov 21, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Too many Christians feel that only they do these things.
:)
I know for a fact that the family, from grandfather down to his grandchildren, who have done the most of my small hometown, is a Jewish family. Business folks yes, yet they give back to the community in so many ways.
Including outreach centers where any in need can go and leave with clothing, food, even a free medical checkup and care.
There are folks from all the faiths or none who volunteer there and also in many other areas regarding the welfare of the public round here also.
Bless you, MRSMURPHY, although I believe you are already.
Good morning Nettiebelle,

I don't know. It's alright to ridicule the ridiculous but doesn't Mrs. Murphy go beyond the pale when it comes to Native?

Anyway, I finished the leftover beer from the sauerkraut and sausage and do believe I'll have another. I know it's not even 8:30 in the morning but this is premium stuff and Mass isn't until another ten hours.

Holy is the Lord God on high. Heaven and Earth are filled with His glory.

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