Does religion have a purpose in society?

Does religion have a purpose in society?

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Cookie_Parker

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#1 Nov 12, 2012
If so, what purpose is that?

Does it have a purpose for mankind?

If so, what is that purpose?

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#2 Nov 12, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
If so, what purpose is that?
Does it have a purpose for mankind?
If so, what is that purpose?
It's using the unknown for psychological and behavioral control. There were various religious beliefs practiced by clans and tribes in early human history and as human evolved, so did religious beliefs, which became part of culture and organization.
Rajinder Nijjhar

Reading, UK

#3 Nov 14, 2012
WHO ARE THE GNOSTICS?
By Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc., Retired Lecturer in Metallurgy, 144 Hamilton Road, Reading, RG1 5RE, U.K.

Many think that the Gnostics are heretic and this bad name was given by the Messianic sons of Satan who occupied the Church of God soon after the deaths of Angel Stephen and St.James, the Just. After them, the Messianic Jews did not enter Church of God through the Proper Gate where Christ Peter is the Gatekeeper but they rather stealthily jumped over the walls of the Church to occupy it as prophesised by Christ Jesus in Matt.12.v43-45, the arid, evil spirited sacked psychic Temple Priests could not find green pastures and they went into the House of Christ Jesus with seven more evil spirits, the deacons and killed the spirit of the Church of God with forbidden Jewish Leaven, the rotten Torah full of holes to lure their victims. Old customers, the Chosen People, filled the Churches and the same old Business flourished. Mammon and not God was worshipped by these waterless canals, the immoral Bishops and their accomplices, to make the situation worse than before. When the Monks, mostly Gentile Apostles, criticised them, they gave them the bad name of heretic and killed them by throwing before animals creating Darkness worse than before the arrival of Christ Jesus. Their accomplice Roman Emperor Constantine was worshipped like god and so Mammon replaced God with Popes killing people at their own wills, INSHPOPE.
Apostles were mostly Gentile and then there was a limit of aggression. Hazrat Mohammed Sahib taught them a good lesson but as this Islam of INSHMULLAH, Moon and star, became corrupt, then the Second coming of Christ Jesus was Satguru (Christ) Nanak Dev Ji born 1469 in the Punjab wherefrom I hail. He and His Five Lights Preached Gospel, Islam of Allah, INSHALLAH that is SHARIAH-FREE and of Sun, for almost 150 years but the Kings of Darkness of Khatri tribe were nowhere to be sorted with the word of mouth. Then, the Last Fourth Prophet, two in M.East and two in East, Royal King Gobind Rai Ji organised the Soldiers of God, the Philanthropic Khalsas (Puritans) to fight the aggressor Emperor sons of Darkness of Kashmir who were Mullahs, and they were inciting the Moghul rulers. In the same evil spirit, the people of Judah tribe incited Roman Emperor Constantine to kill Christianity. So, the Blood of aggressions lies on the people of Khatri tribe in India as that of Christ Jesus and His Labourers on the people of Judah tribe, the Princes of Darkness. No wonder when the Blind Guides led the blind, they fell into the Pits of death, the Holocausts.
John, the Baptist, the Angel of Israel, Rabbis, Pharisees, etc. had once-born Disciples to discipline them morally in Adam whilst our Anointed Royal High Priest of God Christ Jesus has twice-born Labourers, no more slaves to sins in Adam but righteousness of heart in God, working in the Vineyard of our Father that has a Narrow Gate for Solitary and sought by those who are pre-destined of our Father. True Vine Christ Jesus has been Planted by our Father in His Vineyard and those who Eat the Juicy Flesh of Jesus, have ears to hear His Word and they are capable of Drinking the Refreshing Blood of Christ called Drinking His Cup, Preach Gospel in the manners of our anointed Elder Brother Christ Jesus. They Graft themselves to this True Vine to become His Virgin Solitary Wife for Eternal Life called REST. Anyone who is not Grafted to the True Vine but follow the Wide Road led by their hirelings of Mammon Dog-Collared Anti-Christs withers away wasting his precious chance of earning REST.
There is ONE GOD and His Faith is One and not many. But the spiritually blind Disciples of Anti-Christs have many Churches and faiths.
Gnostics are living Christs of our living Father, Allah.
THEY ARE SOLITARY VIRGIN WIVES OF CHRIST JESUS
WHERE THERE IS NEITHER GIVING NOR TAKING – STORGE.

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#4 Nov 14, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
If so, what purpose is that?
Does it have a purpose for mankind?
If so, what is that purpose?
There are various psychological functions served by religion that are crucial to maintain sanity in the masses. These functions can include denial of death (achieved through belief in afterlife), feeling of control over actions (achieved through belief in free will), and even the very thing you're asking about: purpose. What is the meaning of life? Where did we come from? Who are we? How did the universe began? What happens when we die? These are all questions that we are bound to ask ourselves at least once in our lives. Not having the answers right away can be very unsettling. Believing in supernatural comforts is in a way a defense mechanism against such a disconcerting feeling. Few learn how to deal with ambiguity and uncertainty to a point that a pseudo-answer is not needed. The older you get, the more difficult it becomes to answer such questions, or more precisely, to deal with the possibility that you may never answer any of them, let alone all of them. Based on this opinion, could I say that religion is necessary? Yes and no: surely, if one was enabled with the tools to think critically at an early age, one could learn to deal with ambiguity and uncertainty; religious adults, however, may have gone past the point of no return and succumbed to mental atrophy from poor nourishment. Basically, what I'm saying is that religion is a parasitic mental dysfuntion that first makes itself a non-detachable part of its victim and then propagates like a virus to other people, especially children. This is why I never engage in a religious argument with anyone who's lost a loved one, or someone who overcame drug addiction through religion. But I do wish they didn't infect their sons and daughters with their superstition.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#5 Nov 14, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
If so, what purpose is that?
Does it have a purpose for mankind?
If so, what is that purpose?
Yes, religion has a purpose.It is to control the masses.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#6 Nov 14, 2012
Jammercolo wrote:
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Yes, religion has a purpose.It is to control the masses.
We've also seen "anti-religion" do the very same thing. What do we do with that problem?

And...out of curiosity...does you feel your theory includes "Buddhism".
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#7 Nov 14, 2012
Jammercolo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, religion has a purpose.It is to control the masses.
What controls you?
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#8 Nov 14, 2012
For the social factor and charity, sure, I suppose, but you don't need religion to have a social club. Other than that, no need for religion in society.
Cujo

Leask, Canada

#9 Nov 14, 2012
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
We've also seen "anti-religion" do the very same thing. What do we do with that problem?
And...out of curiosity...does you feel your theory includes "Buddhism".
You can't have anti-religion without religion. Still religions fault!
Job

United States

#10 Nov 14, 2012
Cujo wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't have anti-religion without religion. Still religions fault!
Without Jews, there would be no holocaust. Perhaps the Jews should abandon their heritage that they love, and just sort of phaze their ethnicity out, just to appease the anti-semitists. Must be the Jews fault.

Without Armenians, there would not have been that horrible Armenian genocide. Perhaps Armenians should abandon their culture that they love, and phaze out their ethnicity, just to appease some Turks. Must be the Armenians fault.

Perhaps the religious in America should abandon their beliefs to appease spoiled brats like "Freedom From Religion", who's sensitivities get ruffled at the mere sight of a cross visible from a freeway.

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#11 Nov 14, 2012
Jammercolo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, religion has a purpose.It is to control the masses.
And when that control has a political agenda like the fundies, the controller is revealed as well?
Punisher

Mount Vernon, NY

#12 Nov 14, 2012
Religions tap into the part of the Human experience that attempts to aid people in - for want of a better word, because its so vague - their "spiritual" side. The side that seems to be preoccupied with what we call the BIG Q's.

Plus, religions were more about a personal spiritual quest, not a means to attack the world. Not a means to judge and try and make it conform to any ones POV.

And these in the early days of Religions - they forced people to dive inside and explore their inner world. When humans had the time, had less environmental distractions, etc. Time was spent - like it or not - exploring ones inner-world - where all our fears, dreams and such were let out.

The problem with Religions as we now know them, is that they have all been focused on their Doctrines and Dogma for so long that for the most part they have forgotten the spiritual stuff. They truly no longer "preach" the inner work. They mostly give it lip service and not much more.

Xtianity is an obvious example of this - as not much attention is paid to the inner work. Prayer - which is truly a means to meditate, and not beseech a God for intervention - is a throw away now. Xtians are told to Pray for this, that and a hundred other things 24/7. But little attention is payed to doing true inner-work. Sure it might happen for some, but its not a real part of the "outreach" of the system any more. Its barely spoken about in most churches, and when it is its another throw-away.

Now the system is one of ritual - where people go to some "event" and "Name it and Claim it!" Where people are encouraged, cajoled and otherwise stimulated to perform for the cause. Told what and how to feel and what to say, and how to everything.

I think the real positive aspects of Religion have been lost for the most part as most adherents are no longer truly told to or helped to dig truly deep and focus on themselves and face the confusion/chaos of the inner-world that all us humans experience.

Xtianity - especially the Proty sects, but the RCC is excused - are currently too concerned with attacking the World around them and trying to get it to conform to their varied POV's. Instead of "teaching" the adherents how to maintain their spirits in a manner befitting the way Jesus humbly instructed. The World will be the World, its how a person lives in it that mattered to Jesus. Not trying to take control of it.

Religions have all pretty much lost their way.

“God bless you (o: welcome (o:”

Since: Jun 08

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#13 Nov 14, 2012
Jammercolo wrote:
Yes, religion has a purpose.It is to control the masses.
and Jeff you wrote:
What controls you?
That is a good point, Jeff. There are people who won't be controlled by religion, but they can be controlled by other things. And some number have an idol of independence which is their god. Self-worship is their religion.

"You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections." (2 Corinthians 6:12)

And there are always wrong people to point the finger at, in order to say "religion" is wrong. This is a way of oppression, how ones take only certain people and use them to represent everyone. Of course, plenty of religious people do this, also. May be they are sibling rivals, with so much in common, competing for attention!

“God bless you (o: welcome (o:”

Since: Jun 08

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#14 Nov 14, 2012
"Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world." (James 1:27)

This religion has God's purpose which is better than what we can try to do, ourselves, or even think (c:

But there is religion which is just copy-cat church culture. We have seen how copy-cat churches have such low standards, that even a pedophile predator can imitate their standards so they think he is a pastor!

But Jesus says, "'Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.'" (John 7:24) But copy-catting church culture people judge each other by their outward acting and their copy-cat ceremonies ... so that even a psycho can use their camouflage to fit in.

The purpose of such religion is to keep people weak and in darkness, so Satan can use them in his kingdom.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#15 Nov 15, 2012
Jeff wrote:
<quoted text>
What controls you?
My wife.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#16 Nov 15, 2012
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
We've also seen "anti-religion" do the very same thing. What do we do with that problem?
Give them tax exempt status of course.
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
And...out of curiosity...does you feel your theory includes "Buddhism".
I'll have to say NO. Buddhism does not threaten eternity suffering unimaginable pain in hell for those that don't fall in line.

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#17 Nov 15, 2012
Punisher wrote:
Religions tap into the part of the Human experience that attempts to aid people in - for want of a better word, because its so vague - their "spiritual" side. The side that seems to be preoccupied with what we call the BIG Q's.
Plus, religions were more about a personal spiritual quest, not a means to attack the world. Not a means to judge and try and make it conform to any ones POV.
And these in the early days of Religions - they forced people to dive inside and explore their inner world. When humans had the time, had less environmental distractions, etc. Time was spent - like it or not - exploring ones inner-world - where all our fears, dreams and such were let out.
The problem with Religions as we now know them, is that they have all been focused on their Doctrines and Dogma for so long that for the most part they have forgotten the spiritual stuff. They truly no longer "preach" the inner work. They mostly give it lip service and not much more.
Xtianity is an obvious example of this - as not much attention is paid to the inner work. Prayer - which is truly a means to meditate, and not beseech a God for intervention - is a throw away now. Xtians are told to Pray for this, that and a hundred other things 24/7. But little attention is payed to doing true inner-work. Sure it might happen for some, but its not a real part of the "outreach" of the system any more. Its barely spoken about in most churches, and when it is its another throw-away.
Now the system is one of ritual - where people go to some "event" and "Name it and Claim it!" Where people are encouraged, cajoled and otherwise stimulated to perform for the cause. Told what and how to feel and what to say, and how to everything.
I think the real positive aspects of Religion have been lost for the most part as most adherents are no longer truly told to or helped to dig truly deep and focus on themselves and face the confusion/chaos of the inner-world that all us humans experience.
Xtianity - especially the Proty sects, but the RCC is excused - are currently too concerned with attacking the World around them and trying to get it to conform to their varied POV's. Instead of "teaching" the adherents how to maintain their spirits in a manner befitting the way Jesus humbly instructed. The World will be the World, its how a person lives in it that mattered to Jesus. Not trying to take control of it.
Religions have all pretty much lost their way.
Good post. I agree.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#18 Nov 15, 2012
Jammercolo wrote:
1. <quoted text>
Give them tax exempt status of course.
<quoted text>

2. I'll have to say NO. Buddhism does not threaten eternity suffering unimaginable pain in hell for those that don't fall in line.
1. Can you expound a bit on this please?

2. So then it's not really religion that you think is the problem, just Christianity.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#19 Nov 15, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
If so, what purpose is that?
Does it have a purpose for mankind?
If so, what is that purpose?
What exactly do you mean by religion?
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#20 Nov 15, 2012
Punisher wrote:
Religions tap into the part of the Human experience that attempts to aid people in - for want of a better word, because its so vague - their "spiritual" side. The side that seems to be preoccupied with what we call the BIG Q's.
Plus, religions were more about a personal spiritual quest, not a means to attack the world. Not a means to judge and try and make it conform to any ones POV.
And these in the early days of Religions - they forced people to dive inside and explore their inner world. When humans had the time, had less environmental distractions, etc. Time was spent - like it or not - exploring ones inner-world - where all our fears, dreams and such were let out.
The problem with Religions as we now know them, is that they have all been focused on their Doctrines and Dogma for so long that for the most part they have forgotten the spiritual stuff. They truly no longer "preach" the inner work. They mostly give it lip service and not much more.
Xtianity is an obvious example of this - as not much attention is paid to the inner work. Prayer - which is truly a means to meditate, and not beseech a God for intervention - is a throw away now. Xtians are told to Pray for this, that and a hundred other things 24/7. But little attention is payed to doing true inner-work. Sure it might happen for some, but its not a real part of the "outreach" of the system any more. Its barely spoken about in most churches, and when it is its another throw-away.
Now the system is one of ritual - where people go to some "event" and "Name it and Claim it!" Where people are encouraged, cajoled and otherwise stimulated to perform for the cause. Told what and how to feel and what to say, and how to everything.
I think the real positive aspects of Religion have been lost for the most part as most adherents are no longer truly told to or helped to dig truly deep and focus on themselves and face the confusion/chaos of the inner-world that all us humans experience.
Xtianity - especially the Proty sects, but the RCC is excused - are currently too concerned with attacking the World around them and trying to get it to conform to their varied POV's. Instead of "teaching" the adherents how to maintain their spirits in a manner befitting the way Jesus humbly instructed. The World will be the World, its how a person lives in it that mattered to Jesus. Not trying to take control of it.
Religions have all pretty much lost their way.
I disagree with you as far as Christians go. A number of churches and ministries focus a lot on an individual's "inner person", and come down quite heavily on judging. And I'm talking fundamentalist churches that don't veer away from scripture. The "name it and claim it" crowd is fairly small. I realize you're expressing your 'rightful' opinions, but in my opinion I think it would take a lot more investigation to make accurate claims concerning churches.

I think what you're doing is playing a bit on the "less advanced" aspect of earlier man. But smoothing things over a bit, cutting them slack because they did not know any better but to develop religions.

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