Why do Born Again Evangelicals attack Atheists?

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Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#1 Sep 11, 2012
Why don't the born again evangelicals believe in the 1st Amendment right to freedom of religion?

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#2 Sep 11, 2012
It's Tradition

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#3 Sep 11, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Why don't the born again evangelicals believe in the 1st Amendment right to freedom of religion?
They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#4 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
Weeellllaaaa!
Here, have a cookie.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#5 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
Not true, their are Christians in the Atheist Forum.

Christians there start threads like this one.
Why hAtheists Are Getting Their Arses Kicked By Christians In Topix Forums
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

and Your husband shall rule over you”
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

and:The Myth of the Big Bang
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

IMO:
While the Christian forum does indeed have a good number of Atheist that is the result of hard core fundamental Christians driving away the main stream Christians.

How many Christians that visit here regularly believe in evolution?

From what I see not many.The ones that do are attacked as not being Christians.Most of these leave to never return.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#6 Sep 11, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Why don't the born again evangelicals believe in the 1st Amendment right to freedom of religion?
Fundies do believe in freedom of religion as long as it's theirs.

If the forum is any indication, if you find evolution a better explanation for the diversity of life on earth than talking snakes, that makes you an atheist in the mind, if it may be called that, of a fundie

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#7 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
Christian privilege is the overarching system of advantages bestowed on Christians. It is the institutionalization of a Christian norm or standard that establishes and perpetuates the notion that all people are or should be Christian. The privileging of Christians and Christianity excludes the needs, concerns, religious cultural practices, and life experiences of people who are not Christian. At times overt and at other times subtle, Christian privilege is oppression by purpose and design, as well as by neglect, omission, erasure, and distortion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privil...

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#8 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
Oppression occurs when the dominant group imposes its cultural norms, values, and perspectives on individuals.[2] These values are imposed “on institutions by individuals and on individuals by institutions”.[2]:p.19 These social and cultural values define ideas of good and evil, health and sickness, normality and deviancy, and how one should live one’s life. The dominant group unconsciously uses dominant social values to justify and rationalize social oppression, while often lacking awareness or understanding of the ways in which they are privileged on the basis of their social identities.[3]“Unpacking” McIntosh’s allegorical knapsack of privilege (whether it be Christian, white, male, heterosexual, owning class, temporarily able bodied, English as first-language speakers, and others) is to become aware of and to develop critical consciousness of its existence and how it impacts the daily lives of both those with and those without this privilege.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privil...

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#9 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
Christian dominance is maintained by its relative invisibility, and with this invisibility, privilege is not analyzed, scrutinized, or confronted.[3] Dominance is perceived as unremarkable or “normal.” For example, the symbolism and rituals associated with religious holidays may appear to be free of religion. However, the effect of the secularization of religion only serves to fortify Christian privilege by perpetuating Christian hegemony in such a way as to avoid detection as religion or to circumvent violating the constitutional requirements for the separation of religion and government.[3]

Christian privilege and religious oppression exist in a symbiotic relationship. Oppression toward non-Christians gives rise to Christian privilege, and Christian privilege maintains oppression toward non-Christian individuals and faith communities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privil...

“Call sign: Apache One Six”

Since: Mar 11

US 62 @ US 81

#10 Sep 11, 2012
madscot wrote:
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Christian dominance is maintained by its relative invisibility, and with this invisibility, privilege is not analyzed, scrutinized, or confronted.[3] Dominance is perceived as unremarkable or “normal.” For example, the symbolism and rituals associated with religious holidays may appear to be free of religion. However, the effect of the secularization of religion only serves to fortify Christian privilege by perpetuating Christian hegemony in such a way as to avoid detection as religion or to circumvent violating the constitutional requirements for the separation of religion and government.[3]
Christian privilege and religious oppression exist in a symbiotic relationship. Oppression toward non-Christians gives rise to Christian privilege, and Christian privilege maintains oppression toward non-Christian individuals and faith communities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privil...
Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#11 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
I have historically avoided the Atheist forum because of all the retarded fundies. Given the current hillbilly infestation of the Christian forum it's a wash.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#12 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,
There are these things called external links and also sources that you are welcome to read. They appear at the bottom of every wiki page.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#13 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,
Don't tell Preacherdude that or the world as we know it is doomed.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#14 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,
So what you're saying is you didn't read it. Got it. Your lack of self awareness is astounding.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#15 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,
Still, your compulsion to marginalize anyone that doesn't share your addlepated notions confirms the description.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#16 Sep 11, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,
Wikipedia: the encyclopedia anyone can edit (after review by an experienced editor)
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/shane...

Study Finds Wikipedia (Almost) As Accurate as Britannica

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/ar... #ixzz26Dx0nUGi

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#17 Sep 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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They do! The problem is that Atheists and Agnostics come to a Christian forum and attack Christians. We are not going to Atheist forums attacking them, we are defending.
It's a public forum. YOu don't want to have input into another, go talk in your closets like you're supposed to do when you pray.

Otherwise, you have the freedom to practice your religion..why attack atheists and human secularism?> Is your religion so weak you can't have others around you who believe different? I know the born again evangelical god is SO weak , that HUMANS must sit in judgement of others and HUMANS must violate the Christian laws of separating church and state, but really...why worship a weak arse god?

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#18 Sep 12, 2012
Allen Richards wrote:
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Wiki is about as reliable as the scribblings on a public restroom wall. Every page has several [edit] links. Anybody can post or change anything at any time without any review kor controls,
Not you apparently. You didn't respond to what was said. Wassa matter? Your faith so weak you need to talk to the preacher man about how to respond?

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#19 Sep 12, 2012
madscot wrote:
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Christian privilege is the overarching system of advantages bestowed on Christians. It is the institutionalization of a Christian norm or standard that establishes and perpetuates the notion that all people are or should be Christian. The privileging of Christians and Christianity excludes the needs, concerns, religious cultural practices, and life experiences of people who are not Christian. At times overt and at other times subtle, Christian privilege is oppression by purpose and design, as well as by neglect, omission, erasure, and distortion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privil...
Wow...that is absolutely perfect. And so true....they are both cowards and bullies and so low in their faith, that they must FORCE everyone to believe as they do so their doubts about its validity will stop.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#20 Sep 12, 2012
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
Oppression occurs when the dominant group imposes its cultural norms, values, and perspectives on individuals.[2] These values are imposed “on institutions by individuals and on individuals by institutions”.[2]:p.19 These social and cultural values define ideas of good and evil, health and sickness, normality and deviancy, and how one should live one’s life. The dominant group unconsciously uses dominant social values to justify and rationalize social oppression, while often lacking awareness or understanding of the ways in which they are privileged on the basis of their social identities.[3]“Unpacking” McIntosh’s allegorical knapsack of privilege (whether it be Christian, white, male, heterosexual, owning class, temporarily able bodied, English as first-language speakers, and others) is to become aware of and to develop critical consciousness of its existence and how it impacts the daily lives of both those with and those without this privilege.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_privil...
I think America is waking up more and more to these powerful people pushing a bunch of idiots to making this nation full of oppression. Here's some of the agenda behind these televangelists and the republican party.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

Dominionism is a natural if unintended extension of Social Darwinism and is frequently called “Christian Reconstructionism.” Its doctrines are shocking to ordinary Christian believers and to most Americans. Journalist Frederick Clarkson, who has written extensively on the subject, warned in 1994 that Dominionism “seeks to replace democracy with a theocratic elite that would govern by imposing their interpretation of ‘Biblical Law.’” He described the ulterior motive of Dominionism is to eliminate “…labor unions, civil rights laws, and public schools.” Clarkson then describes the creation of new classes of citizens:

“Women would be generally relegated to hearth and home. Insufficiently Christian men would be denied citizenship, perhaps executed. So severe is this theocracy that it would extend capital punishment [to] blasphemy, heresy, adultery, and homosexuality.”[10]

...

In his book, which tended to be more formal and less expansive, Pat Robertson began the listing of those Americans not fit for public office:

“Obviously the drunk, the drug addict, the lustful, the slothful do not have the discipline to rule the earth and to correct its evils.”(p. 82)

“If we remain unrighteous, the Bible says, we will miss the kingdom.”(p.83)

Then he quoted Paul’s epistle to the Corinthians:

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”(1 Corinthians 6:9-10)(p. 83)

If “Secular Humanists are the greatest threat to Christianity the world has ever known,” as theologian Francis Schaeffer claimed, then who are the Humanists? According to Dominionists, humanists are the folks who allow or encourage licentious behavior in America. They are the undisciplined revelers.



Put all the enemies of the Dominionists together, boil them down to liquid and bake them into the one single most highly derided and contaminated individual known to man, and you will have before you an image of the quintessential “liberal”—one of those folks who wants to give liberally to the poor and needy—who desires the welfare and happiness of all Americans—who insists on safety regulations for your protection and who desires the preservation of your values—those damnable people are the folks that must be reduced to powerlessness—or worse: extinction.

D the ends justify the means. Under Dominionism, true Christianity is a target to destroy, not a goal to achieve.

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