Is Paul "the False Prophet?"

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The Perfect Idiot perfect keeps posting this argument
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Can a Person be Christian and know that Paul is the false prophet?

Lets say According to YOUR RELIGION,
Can a Person be Christian and know that Paul is the false prophet?

That is all I am Asking, you keep calling me names, I am just asking a Question,

All I am asking is can a Person be Christian and know that Paul is the false prophet,
I do not understand why you would call me names for asking that.

I am not calling you names, I am asking IN YOUR RELIGION can you be Christian and know that Paul is the false prophet?

There is no reason to call me names,
I am ASKING YOU is it possible to be Christian and know that Paul is the false prophet?

It is an HONEST QUESTION, and deserves better then calling me names.
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Have you answered his question?

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First you have to show from scripture that Paul was a false prophet. Peter did not think he was.
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2Pe 3:15-16
(15) And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
(16) As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
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And the council at Jerusalem did not think Paul was a false prophet.
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Act 15:2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question....
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Act 15:19-20
(19) Wherefore my [James] sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
(20) But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
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Have you answered his question?
Wow.
I would not have sounded very smart if I asked that, but you sound like a Genius.

Thank you.

I started my own thread with almost the same name, and there is some good conversation.

Which brings me back to the Question.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/christian...

My Post of the same Question.
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Nov 5, 2012
 
Pretty simple yes.

Deut 13
If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

4 Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

Did Paul lead to another god? Why yes the god Jesus. Did Paul lead away from the commandments of the Eternal One of Abraham Isaac and Jacob? Why yes, he taught that faith saves not the following of the commandments. So by DEUTERONOMY 13 (which is in EVERYONES BIBLE) Paul is a false prophet.

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Flygerian wrote:
Pretty simple yes.
Deut 13
If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
Did Paul lead to another god? Why yes the god Jesus. Did Paul lead away from the commandments of the Eternal One of Abraham Isaac and Jacob? Why yes, he taught that faith saves not the following of the commandments. So by DEUTERONOMY 13 (which is in EVERYONES BIBLE) Paul is a false prophet.
But you tried to use Paul's words to say Jesus is false with me earlier, I was considering this when you used Jesus own Words,

But as soon as you used PAUL'S words to say Jesus is false, I found a Problem in you doctrine.

You can not say Paul is false, and then use Paul's words to prove other Falseness.

It is a fallacy.
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But you tried to use Paul's words to say Jesus is false with me earlier, I was considering this when you used Jesus own Words,
But as soon as you used PAUL'S words to say Jesus is false, I found a Problem in you doctrine.
You can not say Paul is false, and then use Paul's words to prove other Falseness.
It is a fallacy.
Which is exactly why you didnt respond to the reasoning I used for it? Your soul not mine but Jesus will not save you from the hand of the Almighty. Nothing can deliver you from that but Him Hisself. I showed you plenty of proof and now (after you agreeing with it) saying you're not going to accept it because I used Paul to show more? Well then you do not want truth. You rather have lies
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Flygerian,
Jesus IS God
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Which is exactly why you didnt respond to the reasoning I used for it? Your soul not mine but Jesus will not save you from the hand of the Almighty. Nothing can deliver you from that but Him Hisself. I showed you plenty of proof and now (after you agreeing with it) saying you're not going to accept it because I used Paul to show more? Well then you do not want truth. You rather have lies
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Native from Pa wrote:
Flygerian,
Jesus IS God
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I understand hes your god. I just know that Hes not the God of Israel. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. The God of All Creation. The Almighty One who ALWAYS existed. I think you get where Im going. But yes I understand that he is YOUR god.
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JESUS IS THE GOD OF Israel...
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I understand hes your god. I just know that Hes not the God of Israel. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. The God of All Creation. The Almighty One who ALWAYS existed. I think you get where Im going. But yes I understand that he is YOUR god.
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Is Paul the false prophet? No.
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Native from Pa wrote:
JESUS IS THE GOD OF Israel...
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Can you display where Moses worshiped someone named Jesus? Or someone that called himself the son of God? Or someone that mentioned himself having a god that was above him? See where Im going with this?
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John 1 proves JESUS IS GOD so again you can deny this all u want, but truth will stand. Jesus is the GOD of the old and new testament.
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Can you display where Moses worshiped someone named Jesus? Or someone that called himself the son of God? Or someone that mentioned himself having a god that was above him? See where Im going with this?

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Flygerian wrote:
I understand hes your god. I just know that Hes not the God of Israel. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. The God of All Creation. The Almighty One who ALWAYS existed. I think you get where Im going. But yes I understand that he is YOUR god.
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How do you "know" that his God is not the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?

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Which is exactly why you didnt respond to the reasoning I used for it? Your soul not mine but Jesus will not save you from the hand of the Almighty. Nothing can deliver you from that but Him Hisself. I showed you plenty of proof and now (after you agreeing with it) saying you're not going to accept it because I used Paul to show more? Well then you do not want truth. You rather have lies
Apparently you are not informed of how I think of Myself,

I Believe Myself to be the Angel of the North, The BEAST of the North, ONE of the 4 Living Creatures, that surrounds the Throne of the Almighty,

I am not really concerned with your opinion of me,

MY GOD IS GOD,

Your opinion is something I would like to have be more enlightened.

Me and My GOD,
That is LITERALLY
MY GOD IS GOD,

I would like you to to come into the Enlightened, but Guilt, please,

Rev_4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

Rev_7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Rev_15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.

Guilt, that is not going to be part of what I SAY TO GOD.

I am going to say to GOD I AM, exactly as you Created me.

I AM, your Servant Forever and Ever,
Blessed be the Name of the Lord, Blessed be GOD the Father, from everlasting to Everlasting,

Then I am going to start Singing,

HOLY, HOLY, HOLY Lord GOD Almighty who is and who was and who always will be.

Rev 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
Rev 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

I never CEASE, it is a Mental Illness, I always am thinking,

Holy, Holy, Holy Lord GOD almighty,

I never Cease.

what were you trying to Give Me?
a Guilt complex,
rotflmao.

You need to RELAX, you can not use Paul to Disprove Jesus,

But I am willing to talk about what you have found in the Old Testament.

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Which is exactly why you didnt respond to the reasoning I used for it? Your soul not mine but Jesus will not save you from the hand of the Almighty. Nothing can deliver you from that but Him Hisself. I showed you plenty of proof and now (after you agreeing with it) saying you're not going to accept it because I used Paul to show more? Well then you do not want truth. You rather have lies
Did I tell you I have to APPEAR BEFORE GOD as myself, without an Imaginary Blood covering of Jesus?

Like Daily, EVERY DAY I have to Say OH, GOD, I love you, Is all I can Say. To GOD.

Even MY Dreams are about GOD.

I had one the other night in Which I am Flying about 3,000 feet above the Earth, and I had a Horn which I sounded, and the Answer to my Horn came from Above the Earth, but it was like 1,000 time 1,000 more powerful then that Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Movie,
When they answered.

I blew my Horn, and from ABOVE THE EARTH, I heard an Answer, like a Million times greater then My Horn.

It was a GOOD dream, I headed for Space and their was 2 Angels Carrying me..

It was a GOOD DREAM.

I never Cease to think HOLY, HOLY, Holy Lord GOD almighty,

What burden is it you think would fit upon my yoke?

What is it you think I will find a burden with?

Speak, tell me how you think this thought will burden me.

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JESUS IS THE GOD OF Israel...
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Not according to the Jews.

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Flygerian wrote:
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Can you display where Moses worshiped someone named Jesus? Or someone that called himself the son of God? Or someone that mentioned himself having a god that was above him? See where Im going with this?
Actually with Moses they ACTUALITY HAD GOD ABOVE THEM,
As a Pillar of Fire at night and a Cloud by day, there was an ACTUAL THING IN THE SKY Above them.

It is Excepted that this Pillar of Fire by Night and a Cloud by day, that was LITERALLY ABOVE them was GOD.

And the Pillar of Fire descended upon mount Sinai, that is Considered to be the GOD of Moses.

According to the Bible it was an ACTUAL THING, in the Sky.

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Native from Pa wrote:
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John 1 proves JESUS IS GOD so again you can deny this all u want, but truth will stand. Jesus is the GOD of the old and new testament.
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I am REALLY sure you are incorrect.

JESUS NEVER Claimed to be GOD,
But it is one of the reasons they Crucified him for(a false Claim)
He said he was GOD, THEY CLAIMED, when asked Who should be released.

And the Governor of Israel STRUGGLED with the Jews, For the Governor of Israel found NO FAULT in Jesus, and the Governor Struggled with the Jews, but they protested in such a many as to threat Riot, but the Jews said release the Murderer, Kill Jesus.

I am pretty sure this is all in the Bible.

So the Governor said One man for the peace of a nation, you go to the cross.

It is SO easy to understand the Bible.

It amazes me that you can Misunderstand it.

The only way to Misunderstand the Bible is read it with the Intention of misunderstanding it.

You had to have in your heart the intention to find what you wanted it to say.

In order for you to misunderstand the bible you have to be like a Catholic Priest, that intends to find the rape of Choir Boys granted according to scripture.

Seriously, the misunderstanding of the Scripture is as Grievous as Catholic Priest saying Rape of Children is given to the Priest by God.

Your Misunderstanding is as Grievous as Priest raping Children.

You like to Say, But no, What did I do wrong,
You MISINTERPRETED the WORDS OF GOD.

A serious crime.

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Flygerian wrote:
Pretty simple yes.
Deut 13
If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4 Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
Did Paul lead to another god? Why yes the god Jesus. Did Paul lead away from the commandments of the Eternal One of Abraham Isaac and Jacob? Why yes, he taught that faith saves not the following of the commandments. So by DEUTERONOMY 13 (which is in EVERYONES BIBLE) Paul is a false prophet.
Quoting from the Old Testament book of Deuteronomy does not prove the Apostle Paul was a false prophet. Paul never claimed to be a prophet and was never, to my knowledge, addressed as a prophet in the New Testament. Paul's greatest and only relevant contribution to the early Christian movement was his Christian evangelizing to the Gentile-those outside the traditional Jewish religion.

He did, in a letter to the Thessalonians, admonish them to not despise the prophets among them. So I would take that to believe there would be prophets, both false and true, in the future of the Christian movement. And it is not hard to tell the difference even today. The true prophet reveals the word of God. The false prophet reveals nothing.

So, the Apostle Paul was not a prophet, false or otherwise.

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