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How did you become free from Christianity?

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“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#1 Apr 15, 2013
No one thing will turn you into an atheist or any other kind of non-believer. What was the process of your transition? What comes next in life after leaving religion? I know my transition to agnostic atheism was most unpleasant, but I just can't choose to believe something I don't.
Me Myself and I

Ridgeview, WV

#2 Apr 15, 2013
I you were a Christian and turned your back on God then I doubt if you ever really believed in the fist place.
Former Christian

Knoxville, TN

#3 Apr 15, 2013
Oberktosa wrote:
No one thing will turn you into an atheist or any other kind of non-believer. What was the process of your transition? What comes next in life after leaving religion? I know my transition to agnostic atheism was most unpleasant, but I just can't choose to believe something I don't.
I was having discussions at work with extremely intelligent engineers who were constantly challenging my beliefs as a cradle Christian. It got to the point were I was constantly on the internet trying to find apologetic answers for all the serious problems they were bringing to my attention. I could spent all night on the internet looking for the very best apologetics I could find and they destroyed it in 30 seconds on the spot. I knew it was over when I called my pastor at home for help and the best he could come up with was " you should stay away from people like that, they are to far gone to be helped". He was a life long preacher who went to bible college and even studied Hebrew but he didn't have anything for the engineers where I work.

I'm sure you already know that any Christian that turns atheist or agnostic was never a real Christian. The pastor that rapes a 14 year old girl was never a real Christian. The priest that rapes a 10 year old boy was never a real Christian.

The real Christian that cheats on his wife, gets divorced and remarried 3 times, gets busted for drugs, gets a DUI, or convicted of murder, is still a real Christian. So every time I here you were never a real Christian, I feel sorry for them.

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#4 Apr 15, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
I you were a Christian and turned your back on God then I doubt if you ever really believed in the fist place.
I bet you do. I do ask myself that at times. Considering that most of my teen years were devoted entirely to Catholicism, I could say I was a true believer, but I doubt it, and I doubt Christians are true believers at all. We are told to stay away from those dishonest atheists or our views of God will be distorted and we won't get into heaven. All the while, I haven't met the atheist that has told me not to read the Bible because it will distort my views of atheism. You call that faith? Nah, too scared of the truth.
Me Myself and I

Ridgeview, WV

#5 Apr 15, 2013
Oberktosa wrote:
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I bet you do. I do ask myself that at times. Considering that most of my teen years were devoted entirely to Catholicism, I could say I was a true believer, but I doubt it, and I doubt Christians are true believers at all. We are told to stay away from those dishonest atheists or our views of God will be distorted and we won't get into heaven. All the while, I haven't met the atheist that has told me not to read the Bible because it will distort my views of atheism. You call that faith? Nah, too scared of the truth.
So. You are another one raised as a catholic. Catholicism is not truly believing in God, it is believing what the hierarchy tells you. Atheists think they know the bible front and back but they don't know the first thing about it. They deny Jesus Christ as the Son of God and THAT begins and ends their knowledge. The rest of their dogma is made up and their own speculation. God doesn't want YOU to find your OWN answers, He wants you to find HIM. He is not lost, you, and once, WE, Christians, were.
Me Myself and I

Ridgeview, WV

#6 Apr 15, 2013
Former Christian wrote:
<quoted text>I was having discussions at work with extremely intelligent engineers who were constantly challenging my beliefs as a cradle Christian. It got to the point were I was constantly on the internet trying to find apologetic answers for all the serious problems they were bringing to my attention. I could spent all night on the internet looking for the very best apologetics I could find and they destroyed it in 30 seconds on the spot. I knew it was over when I called my pastor at home for help and the best he could come up with was " you should stay away from people like that, they are to far gone to be helped". He was a life long preacher who went to bible college and even studied Hebrew but he didn't have anything for the engineers where I work.
I'm sure you already know that any Christian that turns atheist or agnostic was never a real Christian. The pastor that rapes a 14 year old girl was never a real Christian. The priest that rapes a 10 year old boy was never a real Christian.
The real Christian that cheats on his wife, gets divorced and remarried 3 times, gets busted for drugs, gets a DUI, or convicted of murder, is still a real Christian. So every time I here you were never a real Christian, I feel sorry for them.
No, they are not a Christian either. A Christian is one who is saved by Grace, NOT by anything we have done. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE for a RFEAL Christian to turn back to the world but if it DID happen, then that one is worse than a dog turning to its own vomit. I feel sorry for YOU because you have a twisted view of Christianity.
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#7 Apr 16, 2013
If you are a RFEAL Christian, no wonder that religion is in decline over here.[sic]

Luckily, none of the christians I associate wtih are scum like you.
Me Myself and I wrote:
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No, they are not a Christian either. A Christian is one who is saved by Grace, NOT by anything we have done. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE for a RFEAL Christian to turn back to the world but if it DID happen, then that one is worse than a dog turning to its own vomit. I feel sorry for YOU because you have a twisted view of Christianity.
Me Myself and I

Ridgeview, WV

#8 Apr 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If you are a RFEAL Christian, no wonder that religion is in decline over here.[sic]
Luckily, none of the christians I associate wtih are scum like you.
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scum? tsk tsk Name calling fom a perfectly evolved rat like you?

Oh, what is "wtih"? some sort of tribal babbling? lol
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#9 Apr 16, 2013
Fom?
Me Myself and I wrote:
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scum? tsk tsk Name calling fom a perfectly evolved rat like you?
Oh, what is "wtih"? some sort of tribal babbling? lol
Me Myself and I

Ridgeview, WV

#10 Apr 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Fom?
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Whatever you little perv.

Roland_Deschain

“Naturalism - Nature is Enough”

Since: Nov 07

UK

#11 Apr 16, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
I you were a Christian and turned your back on God then I doubt if you ever really believed in the fist place.
Oh look, it's the "No true Scotsman" fallacy.

"No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy by which an individual attempts to avoid being associated with an unpleasant act by asserting that no true member of the group they belong to would do such a thing. Instead of acknowledging that some members of a group have undesirable characteristics, the fallacy tries to redefine the group to exclude them."

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#12 Apr 16, 2013
Calm down, dear.
Me Myself and I wrote:
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Whatever you little perv.

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#14 Apr 16, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
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No, they are not a Christian either. A Christian is one who is saved by Grace, NOT by anything we have done. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE for a RFEAL Christian to turn back to the world but if it DID happen, then that one is worse than a dog turning to its own vomit. I feel sorry for YOU because you have a twisted view of Christianity.
If people have a twisted view of Christianity, then real Christians only need to look as far as people like you and all the other fundies to know who is to blame for that. Your fundie version of Christianity is as attractive as a pile of doggie doo, much like your personality!
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#15 Apr 16, 2013
The opinion of a c**t like you has no value to me or them.
SaintBlack Pope wrote:
<quoted text>If you associate with them, then they would be scum like you.
Thinking

Sheffield, UK

#16 Apr 16, 2013
At least doggie doo was not made with malice aforethought.
par five wrote:
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If people have a twisted view of Christianity, then real Christians only need to look as far as people like you and all the other fundies to know who is to blame for that. Your fundie version of Christianity is as attractive as a pile of doggie doo, much like your personality!

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#17 Apr 16, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
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So. You are another one raised as a catholic. Catholicism is not truly believing in God, it is believing what the hierarchy tells you. Atheists think they know the bible front and back but they don't know the first thing about it. They deny Jesus Christ as the Son of God and THAT begins and ends their knowledge. The rest of their dogma is made up and their own speculation. God doesn't want YOU to find your OWN answers, He wants you to find HIM. He is not lost, you, and once, WE, Christians, were.
No True Scotsman Fallacy

Maybe I wasn't a real Christian. But the way I see it no one is. For instance, do you believe The entire Bible is true?

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#19 Apr 16, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
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Whatever you little perv.
Scratch that, I've been reading more of your comments and I refuse to engage in an argument with you.

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#20 Apr 16, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
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No, they are not a Christian either. A Christian is one who is saved by Grace, NOT by anything we have done.
The famous salvation through grace, a get-out-of-jail-free card utilized in order to sin your entire life only to repent in your deathbed. Well guess what? When you die, nothing happens. I can't prove it, but I have faith.

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#21 Apr 16, 2013
Me Myself and I wrote:
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scum? tsk tsk Name calling fom a perfectly evolved rat like you?
Oh, what is "wtih"? some sort of tribal babbling? lol
You insulted him first, and now you complain about name calling. You resemble a scared burglar calling 911 because the owner of the house happened to have a shotgun under his pillow. Coward!

“When you die, nothing happens.”

Since: Sep 12

Gurabo, PR

#22 Apr 16, 2013
It wasn't exactly easy to become an atheist. I didn't choose to, it just happened. I can no longer kid myself with belief in an afterlife. Death is a troubling thought an people are willing to go to great extents to deny it. To this day, I haven't resolved the issue with death. People who believe in God have no problem with this because their gullibility allows them to believe in heaven. Well if you can believe in heaven keep it to yourself; do not exploit children's innocence to impose your religion or god.

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