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#870 Feb 3, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Whiny little thing, aren't ya?
Here, have a cookie.
Giving your friend away?

“Watching for Wolves~”

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#871 Feb 3, 2013
Christian wrote:
Only a troll would know everything about everyone who has ever commented on the threads of this forum!
Hey Nut, I'm bothering you now! See the difference.
You will find Nutty Nettie on nearly every forum and thread that Christians are on......She strolls through them like a troll strolls out from under a bridge. She bashes Christians, protects the unGodly to the point it is sickening. She really fits in with them and she tries to project herself as "teaching" others of her Catholic faith.....we do not buy into her deceptions... that frustrates her to no end.

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#872 Feb 3, 2013
Laci Ann 7 wrote:
<quoted text>You will find Nutty Nettie on nearly every forum and thread that Christians are on......She strolls through them like a troll strolls out from under a bridge. She bashes Christians, protects the unGodly to the point it is sickening. She really fits in with them and she tries to project herself as "teaching" others of her Catholic faith.....we do not buy into her deceptions... that frustrates her to no end.
I do not try to 'teach' anyone anything.
I do defend my own faith and correct the ignorance of many such as yourself on misconceptions of my faith, and YOU are full of them.

Have you ever noticed how so many of your posts, like this one of yours, are ungodly?
We have.

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#873 Feb 3, 2013
socci wrote:
Using the day-year principle 42 months are in actually 1260 years the rule of the holy roman empire ending at the French Revolution when Napoleon arrested the Pope and seized the Papal States, thus began the rule of the 8th head.
The holy roman empire ended!
The Holy Roman Empire wasn't contingent on the existence of the papal states. The Empire began in the 10th Century, not the 6th.
FreeChic

United States

#874 Feb 3, 2013
Hey Nuttie! Why don't you leave Christians alone. If you don't believe what we believe that stay out of our forum. Go to the atheist forum. Why do you want to harass people?
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#875 Feb 3, 2013
NumberOneSon wrote:
The Holy Roman Empire wasn't contingent on the existence of the papal states. The Empire began in the 10th Century, not the 6th.

The power of the Pope began with the Papal States in the 6th century and built into the HRE and continued until Napoleon seized it all in 1798, exactly 1260 years.

Papal States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States

The exact year has been identified as when the Justinian decree went forth in the year 533 but went unrealized until the last of the three 'horns' attacking nations were 'plucked up' defeated in 538 allowing the Pope political rule of the infant empire that would grow to the HRE.
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#876 Feb 3, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Let's see now...
http://bible.cc/revelation/13-18.htm
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1.All people would receive the mark when it was unleashed upon the world in their minds and in their 'write hand' rich and poor, free and slave.
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2. You cannot buy or sell unless you have it.
Now you deniers here, tell me what is being talked about in those words, if not being your name, which identifies oneself and that is in your mind, your forehead, and you sign your mark, your name, with your signature which comes out of your 'write hand'.
And who requires you to have that signature?
Religion = BIRTH ID
Government and Science = NUMBER on ID
It made David's illegal Census,(that God told him not to do), easier to keep track of the people. Named and numbered the people for tax purposes.
So that the 666 talents of gold in taxes could be collected.
http://bible.cc/1_kings/10-14.htm
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http://bible.cc/2_chronicles/9-13.htm
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Take this very slow point by point. If one point is overlooked the rest will fail.

- the 'beast' is symbolic

- the 'mark' is symbolic

- the 'earth' too is symbolic for the territory of the beast's empire, and different from the whole world.

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13:14 And deceives them **that dwell on the earth** by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

13:15 And he had power to give life to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

13:16 And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

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Properly identified the 'beast' is the Roman empire, and at this point in history was the holy roman empire that ruled the 42 months / 1260 years. Following those 42 months all who chose to support the HRE over the Protestant Reformation were persecuted by the forces of Napoleon. Many did lose their heads. It is about worship.

Notice the difference in EARTH and WORLD

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16:14 "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth to the kings of the earth and of the whole world,"

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This verse tells us the kings of the roman-earth at this point rule the whole world.

Anyway, you will first need to lay a foundation and correctly identify the 'beast' and when in history those 42 months were. Because most today claim they are yet future.

day-year principle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-year_princip...

video

http://archive.org/details/RevelationIllustra...

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#877 Feb 3, 2013
The Beast

"The beast combines features from four beasts (Dan. 7:1-8, 17-27) and represents idolatrous kingdoms. The beast could also represent the Antichrist. Now several antichrists are mentioned by John in his letters (1 John 2:18, 2 John 1:7). But there is a difference between antichrists (small “a”) and the Antichrist (capital “A”). The antichrist (small “a”) is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ and is God as John says in 2 John 1:7,“I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.” And in 1 John 2:18,“Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.” Since there are “many antichrists” coming, this means that this is not the antichrist John mentions in Revelation 13. This is understood to be true because many antichrists had already come in John’s day (2 John 2:18)."

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#878 Feb 3, 2013
http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-...

666 – The Mark of the Beast

The beast apparently can control who can and cannot buy and sell. If they do not have the beast’s mark, then they have no power to buy or sell since “It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads”(Rev 13:16). This mark was “so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man [literally the number of humanity]. That number is 666”(Rev 13:17-18). The number 666 falls one short of God’s number of perfection which is 7. This number is like a false trinity of sinful origin and reflects an imperfection times three.

Many people have falsely had the number 666 assigned to someone or others by using the old Roman Numerals system where X = 10, V = 5 and so on. Over the years many have tried to take the letters of human leader’s names and total their numbers to six hundred and sixty-six. These attempts have obviously been wrong. They ascribed this mark or number to various Popes, to Hitler, and to Rome itself (in the manner using “Latin Man”) but to no avail. The number 666 may simply be a number like everyone has for their Social Security card or their driver’s license and this same number will need to be memorized (thus on their forehead) or be implanted in their hand somewhere (Rev 13:16). No one is certain about this but the number is of human origin. The main thing is that the number 666 is anti-Christ or anti-God and is supremely carnal and sinful. The source of this number and all evil in the world is Satan or the Devil (Rev 12:9).

Because the Bible reveals so little about the number 666 it is unwise for me to speculate. The important thing is that anyone who is not Christ’s is susceptible to this beast and the Antichrist but those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life have nothing to fear from the beast nor anything to worry about the number 666 and having the mark of the beast be on them (Rev 13:8).

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#879 Feb 3, 2013
FreeChic wrote:
Hey Nuttie! Why don't you leave Christians alone. If you don't believe what we believe that stay out of our forum. Go to the atheist forum. Why do you want to harass people?
In case you haven't noticed, this is the CHRISTIAN Forum, NOT the FUNDIE Forum. There are many different denominations of Christians.
Catholics are ALSO Christians. Under what rock were you born?

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

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#880 Feb 3, 2013
tickedoffchic wrote:
<quoted text>
In case you haven't noticed, this is the CHRISTIAN Forum, NOT the FUNDIE Forum. There are many different denominations of Christians.
Catholics are ALSO Christians. Under what rock were you born?
Some Catholics are saved......but most on the Christian Topix forum are just unbeliever trolls playing "Catholic".
FreeChic

United States

#881 Feb 3, 2013
I am new here and did not know what religion she was. I didn't know she was Catholic. Do Catholics believe that Jesus is their savior and that He is the only way? I know they worship the statue of the woman and baby that they call "Mother Mary" and they even pray to her??

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#882 Feb 3, 2013
I hold to the "standard" pre-tribulation rapture view point. I can't see it being any other way without contradicting tons of scriptures. The Church, which is made up of the TRUE Christians, is the bride of Christ. Why would Jesus want to abuse His bride? The scriptures clearly state that God has not appointed us to wrath (1 Thessalonians 5:9). Plus in Revelation, Jesus promised the Philadelphia church (literal church during John's time and also future/today spiritual) to be kept from the hour of temptation which will come upon the whole earth.

Revelation 3:10-11
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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#883 Feb 3, 2013
The bible is clear that the mark of the beast will be literal. I believe it will either an implanted chip or a scan-able tattoo on/in the right hand or forehead. We already have the technology so it's all up to when the fulness of the gentiles comes in (Romans 11:25)......then the age of grace ends with the rapture of the church. The Holy Spirit (which lives inside of REAL Christians) which has restrained the evil has been taken out of the way via the rapture of the church and the Anti-Christ can then step up sign his deal with Israel to start the last 7 year period. That is called the time Jacob's trouble..........Jeremiah 30:7)

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#884 Feb 3, 2013
http://allfaith.com/prophecy/rapture.html

"No Biblical Support:
The "Rapture" is a new doctrine, not historically held by any segment of the Church prior to the mid 1800's.
Proponants can't agree on the question of timing: Pre, Mid or Post Tribulation, so it's obviously not that clear. There are clear statements in the Revelation and elsewhere that contradict all three of the theorized time frames for a Rapture.
If this earth shaking event were truly a biblical prophecy it would be made clear by the holy prophets.
One reason often given for why the Rapture must occur is that the Holy Spirit (the Ruach of HaShem: the Holy Presence of HaShem) must be removed from the Earth during the reign of the Beast (Rex Mundi/Antichrist). No biblical evidence for this view is ever offered nor can any be shown. Were God's Presence ever withdrawn from the Earth all life would instantly cease to exist since in the Spirit of Adonai "...we live, and move, and have our being..." (Acts 17:28).
Doctrinally this idea is even more problematic because were this accurate no one post Rapture could be "saved" nor have any communion with God (to be directed by Him etc.) and yet the biblical prophets clearly show divine intervention and inspiration throughout the entire final seven year period.
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were delivered but passed through the fiery furnace (Daniel 3:19). So too will we pass through the Seven Years or serve God's Will as martyrs.
Daniel was delivered but he nonetheless went through the Lion's den (Daniel 6:16).
The House of Judah survived King Nebuchadnezzar's tyrany but they passed though their Babylonian captivity.
The House of Judah survived the wrath of Haman because Mordecai was inspired to say to Esther: "...who knows whether you haven't come to the kingdom for such a time as this?" (Esther4:14). They went through the experiences and HaShem protected them. So too will we pass through the Seven Years or serve God's Will as martyrs.
Nowhere in Scripture does Adonai remove His people in this way. They always pass through the "Red Sea" and continue in His service under His protection and inspiration."

“God Loves Ilks!”

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#885 Feb 3, 2013
FreeChic wrote:
I am new here and did not know what religion she was. I didn't know she was Catholic. Do Catholics believe that Jesus is their savior and that He is the only way? I know they worship the statue of the woman and baby that they call "Mother Mary" and they even pray to her??
Well, this makes you quite ignorant.
No Catholic worships the Virgin Mary.
We pray TO her for HER prayers for us.
No different than you asking someone to pray for you.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

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#886 Feb 3, 2013
Not that mid 1800's lie again......

Enoch was raptured
Elijah was raptured
Paul was caught up to the third Heaven

"The Pretribulation Rapture Has Been Taught Throughout Christian History"
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer%27s%2...
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"Biblical Proof of a Pretribulation Rapture"
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the...

“Watching for Wolves~”

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#887 Feb 3, 2013
FreeChic wrote:
I am new here and did not know what religion she was. I didn't know she was Catholic. Do Catholics believe that Jesus is their savior and that He is the only way? I know they worship the statue of the woman and baby that they call "Mother Mary" and they even pray to her??
Shes not.....No......yes they do.

You are welcome here Nettie and Chucky think they own the threads. They don't feel free to post all you want to.

“Watching for Wolves~”

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#888 Feb 3, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
The bible is clear that the mark of the beast will be literal. I believe it will either an implanted chip or a scan-able tattoo on/in the right hand or forehead. We already have the technology so it's all up to when the fulness of the gentiles comes in (Romans 11:25)......then the age of grace ends with the rapture of the church. The Holy Spirit (which lives inside of REAL Christians) which has restrained the evil has been taken out of the way via the rapture of the church and the Anti-Christ can then step up sign his deal with Israel to start the last 7 year period. That is called the time Jacob's trouble..........Jeremiah 30:7)
I agree.

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#889 Feb 3, 2013
FreeChic wrote:
I am new here and did not know what religion she was. I didn't know she was Catholic. Do Catholics believe that Jesus is their savior and that He is the only way? I know they worship the statue of the woman and baby that they call "Mother Mary" and they even pray to her??
There is nothing new about you. You are just another fundie to add to the other fundies who pollute the pages of Topix with their intolerannce and bigotry. The appalling example set by fundies like you must be an embarrassment to real Christians, but I know that won't stop you, because like all fudies you don't possess the brain power to understand that. No matter, you are free to demonstrate to us all your bigotry and intolerance, just don't expect an easy ride!

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