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#827 Feb 1, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>No, she is correct.
Turns out it was 616, not 666.
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Bulk wrap. The 616 theory was known to, but totally rejected by, the early church fathers. Remember them? They were native Greek speakers.
Christian

United States

#829 Feb 1, 2013
This will help you understand the mark of the beast.

"The Mark of the Beast" Pastor Arnold Murray (Shepherd's Chapel)

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#830 Feb 1, 2013
Christian wrote:
This will help you understand the mark of the beast.
"The Mark of the Beast" Pastor Arnold Murray (Shepherd's Chapel) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JX4wneSc1SAXX
Murray is a false teacher, a heretic.
Too many of his teachings do not line up with scripture AT ALL.
Christian

United States

#831 Feb 1, 2013
I disagree. I find that he teaches the Word just as it is writen. Chapter by chapter and verse by verse. He is a great scholar. What evidence do you have to support your accusations of him, other than hearsays?

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#832 Feb 1, 2013
Christian wrote:
I disagree. I find that he teaches the Word just as it is writen. Chapter by chapter and verse by verse. He is a great scholar. What evidence do you have to support your accusations of him, other than hearsays?
He is a false teacher and this is so well known, I doubt you will find anyone who cares to even debate you about it.
lol
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#833 Feb 1, 2013

Who has the mark of the beast?

www.youtube.com/watch...

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socci

Plattsburg, MO

#834 Feb 1, 2013
Christian wrote:
I disagree. I find that he teaches the Word just as it is writen. Chapter by chapter and verse by verse. He is a great scholar. What evidence do you have to support your accusations of him, other than hearsays?

He may have been right about the MoB, i dunno, didnt make it that far.

He said the 'bear' was Russia, ect ect.

This teaching comes from FUTURISM where fulfilled events have been thrown into the future where it remains all guess work. Yet we are told prophecy is not to make such predictions rather AFTER the thing has been fulfilled we can know there was a God who foretold history:

"Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, you may believe that I am he." (John 13:19)

The symbolic 'bear' comes from the book of Daniel chapter 7 where we find four 'beasts' that correlate with the four empires of chapter 2:

-Babylon
-Medo-Persian
-Greece
-Roman

Then found in Revelation, today we are under the final seven headed Roman empire.. So the symbolism of Rev 13:1,2 is a composite beast of all those four empires as their babylonian religions can all be found within the Roman Church.

chart..

www.godssabbathtruth.com/charts.html

Christian

United States

#835 Feb 1, 2013
You have provided no scripture that supports your theory there. The empires you listed are 4 of the five fallen empires mentioned in Revelation 17:10, you are missing one. All of these empires ruled over Jerusalem. The one in power today would also rule over Jerusalem. The last time I checked it was not the Roman Empire ruling there. You better get caught up on your current events.

Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

Here are the first five heads/kingdoms that ruled over Jerusalem:
1.) Babylon -- Nebuchadnezzar
2.) Medo-Persia – Cyrus, and afterwards Darius the Mede
3.) Grecia – Alexander the Great
4.) Rome -- Caesar
5.) Arab/Mohammadan – Saladin and others

These have all long-since fallen. They no longer rule over Jerusalem.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#836 Feb 1, 2013
Christian wrote:
You have provided no scripture that supports your theory there. The empires you listed are 4 of the five fallen empires mentioned in Revelation 17:10, you are missing one. All of these empires ruled over Jerusalem. The one in power today would also rule over Jerusalem. The last time I checked it was not the Roman Empire ruling there. You better get caught up on your current events.
Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Here are the first five heads/kingdoms that ruled over Jerusalem:
1.) Babylon -- Nebuchadnezzar
2.) Medo-Persia – Cyrus, and afterwards Darius the Mede
3.) Grecia – Alexander the Great
4.) Rome -- Caesar
5.) Arab/Mohammadan – Saladin and others
These have all long-since fallen. They no longer rule over Jerusalem.

Jerusalem is irrelevant since the Gospel went to the world.

Jerusalem is a symbol for God's people (Mt 23:37) Christians.

Rome is the final empire as Dn 2 millennial man shows, then found in Rev as the seven headed beast understood for over 2000 years.

• Four Empires of Daniel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of...

Rome does still rule over Jerusalem and the entire world - the 8th head of Rev 17 - the NWO that replaced the holy roman empire.

Where is Islam you ask?

Where is atheism and communism?

Where is other religions?

These are all found as judgement upon the Roman empire during the blowing of the Trumpets Rev 9.

Rome actually created Islam in the 7th century to make war upon the middle eastern Orthodox and other non-Latin Christians across Syria & north Africa, so it is all part of the daughters of Rome's mother Church.

Anyway to learn the real prophecy about Islam research the 5th & 6th trumpets. This has long been understood, forgotten with the advent of Scofield c.1900.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#837 Feb 1, 2013
>"Here are the first five heads/kingdoms"

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I see you are taking the seven head-kings of Rev 17 and trying to squeeze more empires in there. No there are only four empires.

••The•Seven•Heads••

The seven heads are earlier found in Rev 13:1,2 where this symbolism comes from Dn 7's four beasts (count the head-total seven):

• Babylonian Empire - first head (1)

• Persian Empire - second head (2)

• Greek Empire - four heads (3,4,5,6)

• Roman Empire - seventh head (7)

This 7th head -- also the two iron legs of Daniel 2 -- is both pagan & papal Rome. After the fall of the holy roman empire the new world order 8th head took over as we read:

"And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition." (Rv 17:11)

We can further identify the exact point in history this took place (rise of the 8th head) by the 42 months rule of the HRE.

Using the day-year principle 42 months are in actually 1260 years the rule of the holy roman empire ending at the French Revolution when Napoleon arrested the Pope and seized the Papal States, thus began the rule of the 8th head.

The holy roman empire ended!

The new world order began!

Empires are found on their coinage. The NWO is found on the US $1 - declaration of the new world order in Latin and roman numerals 1776.

In 1776 the NWO had one nation. By 1798 the NWO had two nation-horns: USA & France (Rev 13:11)

Rev chapters 11, 13 & 17 are about the French Revolution following those 42 months/1260 years as the 8th head / NWO rises.

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Christian

United States

#838 Feb 1, 2013
I disagree with all of that and why are you using wiki anyone can edit! Rome does not rule over Jerusalem and it certainly is not ruling the world. Jerusalem Is ruled by Jews and Judaism.

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#839 Feb 1, 2013
socci and christian seem to have been made for one another.
guess there is someone out there for you after all.
who'd a thunk.

well, I am glad they have found one another.
maybe they will leave everyone else alone.
Christian

United States

#840 Feb 1, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
socci and christian seem to have been made for one another.
guess there is someone out there for you after all.
who'd a thunk.
well, I am glad they have found one another.
maybe they will leave everyone else alone.
To my knowledge I have not bothered you. I am commenting and sharing my knowledge and stating my opinion in a public forum. If you disagree with what I have posted and can't handle it, don't reply. You have the option of ignoring me. Stop complaining and use it.

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#841 Feb 2, 2013
Christian wrote:
<quoted text>
To my knowledge I have not bothered you. I am commenting and sharing my knowledge and stating my opinion in a public forum. If you disagree with what I have posted and can't handle it, don't reply. You have the option of ignoring me. Stop complaining and use it.
Sensitive, eh?
Occupy a Job Supporter2

United States

#842 Feb 2, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Sensitive, eh?
I'd say you are. Sounds like a personal problem.

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#843 Feb 2, 2013
Occupy a Job Supporter2 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd say you are. Sounds like a personal problem.
Tell Wayne we all said hey.
Occupy a Job Supporter2

United States

#844 Feb 2, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Tell Wayne we all said hey.
Nettiebelle, do you have nothing better to do but stock this forum? Why don't you get out into the real world? There's this thing, its called a life. Get one. I recommend it.

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#845 Feb 2, 2013
Occupy a Job Supporter2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nettiebelle, do you have nothing better to do but stock this forum? Why don't you get out into the real world? There's this thing, its called a life. Get one. I recommend it.
Gosh, I didn't know we were running low on some things again!

*Nettie makes a mental note to restock buy spray and Lysol spray right away*
Occupy a Job Supporter2

United States

#846 Feb 2, 2013
Excuse me, stalk. Gosh you're childish.

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#847 Feb 2, 2013
Occupy a Job Supporter2 wrote:
Excuse me, stalk. Gosh you're childish.
Whiny little thing, aren't ya?
Here, have a cookie.

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