Babylon is Fallen
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#1 Feb 2, 2013
Reading your Bible Babylon falls in Revelation 18 when the holy roman empire fell in 1870.
Today we are further into chapter 19 just before the Second Coming.
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#2 Feb 3, 2013
www.scribd.com/doc/22629976 ... Check out the chapter, "When Will the End Times Come?"
#3 Feb 3, 2013
Looked through it for you. It is just typical Scofield taught christian-zionism about a coming 3.5 years erroneously taken from Dn 9:27.
The author claims:
1. earthquakes are literal.
earthquakes are symbolic for war or revolution in our history.
2. locusts from the bottomless pit is a pestilence prediction.
locust is a symbol for Islam Arabs when they took the middle east by one-thirds.
All this symbolism is defined in the Bible old testament prophets long known yet replaced with the advent of Scofield c.1900.
The 'time of the end' began following those 42 months (Dn 12:7-9)
This 42 months DOES NOT come from Dn 9:27 and this is very important to understand as these are two different prophecies.
The 70 weeks of Daniel (Dn 9:24-27) was fulfilled at the time of Jesus. The prophecy is about the coming of the Messiah, not the anti-christ. There is no 2000 year gap between weeks 69 & 70.
The 42 months (time, times & half) is first found in Dn 7:25 rule of the 'little horn'. Just as 70 weeks are 490 years the same day-year principle gives us 42 months / 1260 days or 1260 year rule of the holy roman empire.
There are resources and video at earlier link that covers this more.
#4 Feb 3, 2013
The word Babylon comes from the root word Bable (to bable) and it means confusion. Babylon (Mystery Babylon)today is a state of confusion.
#5 Feb 3, 2013
We do need to identify the Babylon that fell..
Rev 17:5 "And on her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."(KJV)
"Mystery Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots"
18:2 "And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen"
The mother of harlots is a symbol of a church as women are and an impure church. The 'beast' empire found in the book of Daniel is the Roman empire, then the church is the Roman Church riding the Roman empire or holy roman empire. Not all fell only the empire symbolizes as "Great City" = Rome's empire.
Also in previous chapter 17 we read about the harlot being "burned with fire" as the revolution "ate her flesh" = protecting empire.
#6 Feb 3, 2013
Socci, Who built and controlled the original Babylon, it wasn't the Roman Catholics.
#7 Feb 4, 2013
The original or old Babylonian empire located in modern Iraq is the first of four empires of the prophecies of the book of Daniel. We are shown how the fourth and final empire of Rome is found to have aspects of previous empires (Rev 13:1,2) thus babylonian religion or sun worship. I'm not a Sunday observer as the pope is. The correct Sabbath is on the 7th-day.
More about the babylonian religion of Rome..
There are many pages online about all the sun worship and paganism or babylonianism at the Vatican.
What some fail to understand tho is that the Roman Church like all other false religion will continue until Jesus returns to destroy it all. The Roman Church is not going to 'fall' with fire as many look for. What 'fell' was the empire.
So it is not a future event yet to happen rather has been fulfilled.
#8 Feb 4, 2013
There are TWO timelines in the Bible that we can know this prophecy was fulfilled.
First, the 42 months
Second, are the seven vials (Rev 16) since Babylon falling is the 5th vial.
These are both covered at the earlier link. We are past both timelines into the 7th vial or past it into chapter 19 just before the Second coming being 2000 years from the cross in 2031.
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